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jcompagner 2009-12-02 15:57

Re: [better] email client for N900?
 
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Originally Posted by deadmalc (Post 405094)
Modest certainly used to support imap idle, and it worked for me (until my n810 bricked on me):confused:

yes but it seems to be disabled because of some other bug that causes then battery drain...

problem is that for me the current setup drains more battery because i just set it to the fasted polling as possible,, But an imap idle would be way better for the cpu..

range 2009-12-02 16:02

Re: [better] email client for N900?
 
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Originally Posted by deadmalc (Post 405094)
Modest certainly used to support imap idle, and it worked for me (until my n810 bricked on me):confused:

N900's modest doesn't anymore. So please let's all vote for this bug here.

MaemoCurmudgeon 2009-12-02 16:06

Re: [better] email client for N900?
 
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Originally Posted by christexaport (Post 403969)
Snip<<<<Sounds like someone doesn't have an N900... The second you find a NM client for Maemo that you can install on the N900, let me know, and post a link so we can laugh at you a bit more. :p ...>>>Snip

Ah the self professed expert technology blogger, what a wonderful species. Well if you are so knowledgeable SHAME, SHAME, SHAME on you for acting like a luddite that just fell off a turnip truck. If your such an expert on Nokia Messaging why aren't you clarifying and educating your fellow blog posters as opposed to pandering to the confused and helpless.

Your cred in the symbian world means nothing here, you are judged by the quality of your posts. Of course you have revealed much about your personality in your reply, as most egotistical technical "guru's" you forget that software, like life is not static, and you are not comfortable with the notion that you may be wrong or no longer have the current information. So let's take a look at your sophomoric reply.

1) A lesson in software architecture. Regardless if an application is downloaded and installed by the user, or added to the firmware, it is stall an application. Nokia Messaging relies on a Client application to function- even if that application is integrated into another e-mail application. Here is your test (and I'll make it easy since you are a symbian expert). Try to access Nokia Messaging via ProfiMail, I await your reply.

2) Now we come to the embarrassing part. Start laughing- at yourself. As you can see this is a screen shot of Nokia's Messaging page, where you can clearly enter your phone number, select the N900, click next … and since you're such an expert with Nokia Messaging I guess you know what happens next… you get to re-install/reinitialize the client.

http://talk.maemo.org/attachment.php...1&d=1259769798
I'm sorry that Nokia did not hang onto your every word and abandon SMS provisioning, I guess the Mobilist community is being undermined by flat fee, all you an consume mobile plans offered by those evil carriers.

Hope this helps, I look forward to more pearls of wisdom from your posts.

bAxon 2009-12-02 16:10

Re: [better] email client for N900?
 
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Originally Posted by TA-t3 (Post 404920)
Let's just get IMAP IDLE support and we can forget all about Nokia Messaging, IMAP IDLE is a much better way to do it for wi-fi connected devices. And also 3G devices, when you're in your own country.

+2 Yes Yes!!!!!

deadmalc 2009-12-02 16:31

Re: [better] email client for N900?
 
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Originally Posted by range (Post 405121)
N900's modest doesn't anymore. So please let's all vote for this bug here.

Four Foot Snake ;-)

Voted

daperl 2009-12-02 18:24

Re: [better] email client for N900?
 
Over a thousand messages in your Inbox? Local or otherwise, the Inbox is a special folder and shouldn't be used as a dumping ground. I don't care how busy you are. Even though good clients and servers can handle this, I recommend an email reorg. If you don't, this might cause undue stress if you're maxing out your n900 with music, browsing and what not. You could still experience problems and frustration resulting from slowdown and/or scarce resources such as memory. Clean it up and be happier.

BatPenguin 2009-12-02 19:33

Re: [better] email client for N900?
 
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Originally Posted by daperl (Post 405495)
Over a thousand messages in your Inbox? Local or otherwise, the Inbox is a special folder and shouldn't be used as a dumping ground. I don't care how busy you are. Even though good clients and servers can handle this, I recommend an email reorg. If you don't, this might cause undue stress if you're maxing out your n900 with music, browsing and what not. You could still experience problems and frustration resulting from slowdown and/or scarce resources such as memory. Clean it up and be happier.


I'm sure that's good advice for the N900 now at least before the bug fix is released, but I don't think this should be necessary any more in general these days when we have good search tools and nearly infinite mailboxes. I consider the Inbox to be a special folder, too. It's the special folder that holds ALL my email :). Well, except for a select few very,very special ones with account infos etc. whatevers, that I actually want to set aside into a special place. I have a dozen or so folders on my mail box, the inbox has about 6,000 messages, the rest of them combined maybe 30. I consider time spent on categorizing and organizing emails to be a waste - good search tools find the messages faster anyway.

On another note: why can't these bug fixes be pushed out? This seems silly that such a huge bug is causing misery to many users and Nokia is just sitting on the fix. I don't have the N900 but I feel the pain of people who do...my email would be completely unuseable (as it is on the N810). Saving all fixes to one big update seems odd, why not just release individual bug fixes to these sorts of applications. That's what every other Linux distribution would do.

christexaport 2009-12-02 20:51

Re: [better] email client for N900?
 
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Originally Posted by MaemoCurmudgeon (Post 405134)
Ah the self professed expert technology blogger, what a wonderful species.


I deserve that one. I should know better than be snippy and argue with guys like you. And I'm knowledgeable, but don't see myself as anything but experienced, not an expert. And my expertise isn't self professed. When people working on patents for mobile apps call your phone, you'll get it. I recognize my knowledge is a commodity to some, which I appreciate. It was well before I began blogging about mobiles, which is a hobby, not my job. That it isn't to you is fine.

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Well if you are so knowledgeable SHAME, SHAME, SHAME on you for acting like a luddite that just fell off a turnip truck. If your such an expert on Nokia Messaging why aren't you clarifying and educating your fellow blog posters as opposed to pandering to the confused and helpless.
I help whoever I can, but some are beyond help. And some already know everything, like you. To be clear, I've followed the steps to use NM in my region, which doesn't require any extra software since there is no NM rebranded service in the States. But it doesn't work properly for me and others, but does for some. I'm trying to nail down why.
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Your cred in the symbian world means nothing here, you are judged by the quality of your posts. Of course you have revealed much about your personality in your reply, as most egotistical technical "guru's" you forget that software, like life is not static, and you are not comfortable with the notion that you may be wrong or no longer have the current information. So let's take a look at your sophomoric reply.


My experience isn't limited to Symbian. I've also down analysis in the WinMo world, and was a correspondent for PhoneReport for awhile. But Ovi is a service not a software platform, and NM isn't intended for just one platform.

I'm quick to admit I'm a thuggish smart a**, but I know my stuff. What I don't, I try to learn. I'm confident in my notion of being up to date on NM, and notice not one American has agreed your instructions for NM are applicable. It is for S60, but not US N900s.

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1) A lesson in software architecture. Regardless if an application is downloaded and installed by the user, or added to the firmware, it is stall an application. Nokia Messaging relies on a Client application to function- even if that application is integrated into another e-mail application. Here is your test (and I'll make it easy since you are a symbian expert). Try to access Nokia Messaging via ProfiMail, I await your reply.
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2) Now we come to the embarrassing part. Start laughing- at yourself. As you can see this is a screen shot of Nokia's Messaging page, where you can clearly enter your phone number, select the N900, click next … and since you're such an expert with Nokia Messaging I guess you know what happens next… you get to re-install/reinitialize the client.

http://talk.maemo.org/attachment.php...1&d=1259769798
I'm sorry that Nokia did not hang onto your every word and abandon SMS provisioning, I guess the Mobilist community is being undermined by flat fee, all you an consume mobile plans offered by those evil carriers.

Hope this helps, I look forward to more pearls of wisdom from your posts.
Those settings are probably for branded offerings of NM. In the US they don't apply. My location is listed, so its not a secret.

Oh, and by the way, on Nov. 20, Nokia Messaging announced, and I quote,"FYI, the United States has been turned on for Nokia Messaging - you don't need to do SMS provisioning anymore."
http://twitter.com/nokiamessaging/status/5893302900
Now please just "help" someone else. I want someone in the US that knows what they're talking about to assist me. And all offense was intended.

what a mark...

phi 2009-12-02 21:19

Re: [better] email client for N900?
 
I figured out how to get Nokia Messaging on the phone, but I also got an email stating that it is simply a trial and that I would have to buy a subscription afterwards! What is the deal with Nokia Messaging? Anyone want to fill me in?

fnordianslip 2009-12-02 21:25

Re: [better] email client for N900?
 
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Originally Posted by christexaport (Post 405860)
I When people working on patents for mobile apps call your phone, you'll get it.

I wish they did, I'd tell them where to stick their stupid software patents!


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