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planetf1 2010-01-31 16:45

Re: [Maemo 5] MSN, pecan, butterfly, haze....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by felipec (Post 499950)
Anyway, aside from "working better", there are a few extra features, but more importantly; it's more power efficient.

And finally whatever problems you find with it, I will try to fix them... trying to do the same with haze will be much trickier.

For me these are the two most attractive "features".

I had read elsewhere that the stock MSN, and the Haze plugin had power efficiency issues, so I've been playing with using XMPP (via a msn protocol plugin on xmpp.org.uk).

This works, although the contact addresses are somewhat obfuscated due to the % addressing scheme used.

So how is the power consumption for pecan - do you think it's better than the others? How might it compare to XMPP? I know the built in skype seems very good.

Think it's time for me to try pecan...

Thanks

b666m 2010-01-31 16:48

Re: [Maemo 5] MSN, pecan, butterfly, haze....
 
is it possible to make video calls with pecan? (:

taril 2010-01-31 16:54

Re: [Maemo 5] MSN, pecan, butterfly, haze....
 
How can I transfer file over skype, msn? Ive just installed File Transfers app, but it does not work, the contact list is empty, nothing happens.

hwong_pz 2010-01-31 17:32

Re: [Maemo 5] MSN, pecan, butterfly, haze....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by b666m (Post 503949)
is it possible to make video calls with pecan? (:

Nope, pecan does not. I actually tried all 3 telepathies for MSN and only butterfly allows. Do note only version 0.7 allows video call, and it somehow stopped working in 0.8

salah99 2010-01-31 23:03

Re: [Maemo 5] MSN, pecan, butterfly, haze....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hangas (Post 503692)
I tried all the three plugins, pecan, haze and the Extra protocols plugin package.
They all seam to work ok. I'm using mostly haze now with no problems.. and going to use pecan regularly to test it better.

There are although a couple of annoyances in all of them. First is lack of multiple login support witch causes it to "fight" with the desktop client.


The other is that each one gets its set of contacts(repeated) into the contact list. And then you have to merge the same MSN contact from each plugin in to the corresponding person contact.

imho this is how it should work: Each MSN account (same login/password) would generate only on set of contacts, and without (Haze/pecan) on the account name.. Just MSN!

If one wants to had multiple MSN accounts, the the login/password would be different and a new set of contacts should be imported.

Cos now I have each person contact with 3 MSN contacts, wich I find quite anoying. They should all share the same contact detail.. as it is what that detail refers to; MSN contact.

+1
Yes... you wrote what I want to see in my N900!!

Monniman 2010-01-31 23:47

Re: [Maemo 5] MSN, pecan, butterfly, haze....
 
Howdy!

When i got my N900 i installed butterfly witch i used for a couple of weeks but it drained my battery in few hours after a full charge so i changed to haze which does the same. Eventually i installed Pecan 0.1 after stumbling upon Felipes blog where he explained its written in C and is probably much more efficient. Well After using it for a month or so now i can tell that its VERY power efficient compared to haze and butterfly and just works like a charm. and it doesnt slowdown starting up and scrolling of contacts which was a big annoyance with butterfly.

As a tip:

when you install Pecan after haze or butterfly you get the msn users to your contacts again even though you have merged the msn with contacts already. Well noworries - instead of merging contacts you can just go to the contactcard of a friend whos msn account is once more added to your contactlist and just click the IM Msn field and it asks you about the msn account - just choose the IM Pecan MSN and the two visible msn acoounts are merged as.one IM MSN Pecan account in the contactcard and the odd msn email contact disappear from the contacts list.. A long and crappy explanation but hope you get it:D

In short: Pecan (now 0.1.0 RC3)works great! Get it from devel and vote it (where by the way?)!

hwong_pz 2010-02-01 00:14

Re: [Maemo 5] MSN, pecan, butterfly, haze....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Monniman (Post 504407)
Howdy!

When i got my N900 i installed butterfly witch i used for a couple of weeks but it drained my battery in few hours after a full charge so i changed to haze which does the same. Eventually i installed Pecan 0.1 after stumbling upon Felipes blog where he explained its written in C and is probably much more efficient. Well After using it for a month or so now i can tell that its VERY power efficient compared to haze and butterfly and just works like a charm. and it doesnt slowdown starting up and scrolling of contacts which was a big annoyance with butterfly.

As a tip:

when you install Pecan after haze or butterfly you get the msn users to your contacts again even though you have merged the msn with contacts already. Well noworries - instead of merging contacts you can just go to the contactcard of a friend whos msn account is once more added to your contactlist and just click the IM Msn field and it asks you about the msn account - just choose the IM Pecan MSN and the two visible msn acoounts are merged as.one IM MSN Pecan account in the contactcard and the odd msn email contact disappear from the contacts list.. A long and crappy explanation but hope you get it:D

In short: Pecan (now 0.1.0 RC3)works great! Get it from devel and vote it (where by the way?)!

Thanks for the review Monniman. Anyway, Pecan's extras-testing link is http://maemo.org/packages/package_in...0~rc3-0maemo1/.

Might want to take a look at http://wiki.maemo.org/Help_testing_software first before casting your vote. It tells you what to take note and the kind of criteria to look for while testing an app.

sgbirch 2010-02-01 09:26

Re: [Maemo 5] MSN, pecan, butterfly, haze....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mkleung (Post 500315)
same here. I am also looking forward to a non-dev package that integrates the phone's built-in Conversations for instant-meassinging. Anyone?


We now have THRE packages for MSN. I propose that only one be promoted to extras, pecan. Having multiple packages is confusing enough for us, the causual user will be floored.

IMHO we should remove the others from extras-testing as well.

konvctd 2010-02-01 09:55

Re: [Maemo 5] MSN, pecan, butterfly, haze....
 
pidgin or pecan? lol

slender 2010-02-01 11:26

Re: [Maemo 5] MSN, pecan, butterfly, haze....
 
This is not fun:
http://maemo.org/packages/package_in...0~rc3-0maemo1/

http://maemo.org/packages/package_in...ugin-haze/0.7/

http://maemo.org/packages/package_in...hy-extras/0.7/

http://maemo.org/packages/package_in...butterfly/0.7/

Someone sees freedom of choice I see fail and endless bugreports and user frustrations while searching the holy grail. Lets hope that at least half of them perish or merge.

I have used Pecan and it doesn't drain my battery.


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