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Butterfly 2010-01-15 23:27
Re: Remove the firmware update
 
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Originally Posted by bockersjv (Post 475196)
Many thanks for the "guessed" reply. The videos in question worked fine without any additional codec applied, but not now it appears :(
I have the exact same problem not just with videos though. I can't play videos or music anymore apparently. Media not supported, yet yesterday, it worked perfectly fine. Bloody Nokia, I wish I still had my iPhone now...

ndi 2010-01-15 23:27
Re: Remove the firmware update
 
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Originally Posted by Rob1n (Post 475141)
Really? Symbian has never been downgradable. There's plenty of Microsoft updates/patches which are not removable as well.
Really? Symbian isn't downgradeable because it's Nokia.

All MS products are downgradeable both on PC and Mobile. There are plenty threads out there on how to downgrade HTC from WM6 to WM5. They are not supported by HTC customer support, that means not it's not available.

It is also my opinion as an IT professional that it is unprofessional to have no contingency plan, not to have one anyway. An admin has a backup. A good admin has 4 backups in physically separate locations. Because if it goes fine, you're paranoid. If it doesn't you're scr[..]d. Pick one.

I have NEVER rolled out an update with no contingency.

However, it's not like they don't have one. It's just that it's not a user-service part. Nokia can restore the device to 1.0 in service.

Butterfly 2010-01-15 23:32
Re: Remove the firmware update
 
I find it VERY hard to believe, that people have actually tested this firmware for a few weeks and found none of these bugs that only took us lot a day to find. We are the ones who test the firmware, not them! What a joke. I can see this being the very last Nokia phone that I ever buy, unless Nokia get their act together pronto!

slender 2010-01-15 23:33
Re: Remove the firmware update
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Butterfly (Post 475269)
I have the exact same problem not just with videos though. I can't play videos or music anymore apparently. Media not supported, yet yesterday, it worked perfectly fine. Bloody Nokia, I wish I still had my iPhone now...
Could you send you audio to somewhere and put private message so that i can test if it doesn't work on me.

Rob1n 2010-01-15 23:35
Re: Remove the firmware update
 
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Originally Posted by Butterfly (Post 475274)
I find it VERY hard to believe, that people have actually tested this firmware for a few weeks and found none of these bugs that only took us lot a day to find. We are the ones who test the firmware, not them! What a joke. I can see this being the very last Nokia phone that I ever buy, unless Nokia get their act together pronto!
Well, I don't have a lot of the bugs that other people are reporting. And I recall similar fuss about bugs when Apple released their last iPhone update, and when Google released their new phone, so don't go thinking that you'll get a perfect product elsewhere.

jaysire 2010-01-15 23:43
Re: Remove the firmware update
 
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Originally Posted by wierdo (Post 475076)
Well, there is one other case in which it happens: When both the Twitter plugin and the Skype plugin are active, it sucks down the battery like there's no tomorrow (which there isn't, when they're both active..it dies after about 14 hours instead of closer to 30)
I thought it was interesting to note that Butterfly for MSN was almost useless with the new firmware, always giving me network errors. I installed the "other" one (that comes up when you search for MSN). That one has worked a million times better, almost being too eager to connect (I have to set availability to "offline" if I want to use MSN from my desktop computer).

jaysire 2010-01-15 23:48
Re: Remove the firmware update
 
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Originally Posted by bugelrex (Post 475130)
If any other company tried to roll out software that couldn't be rolled-back on an enterprise sysetm they would be sued to the ground. This is not professional behavior.
It's not like the iPhone was meant to be easily downgradeable either, especially when the baseband was flashed.

By your logic, Apple should be sued to the ground, because the only way to downgrade your baseband and firmware was using third party hacks and that's not something the average consumer could be expected to do.

You might say that the iPhone isn't an Enterprise phone, except nowadays it is.

tissot 2010-01-15 23:49
Re: Remove the firmware update
 
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Originally Posted by Rob1n (Post 475282)
Well, I don't have a lot of the bugs that other people are reporting. And I recall similar fuss about bugs when Apple released their last iPhone update, and when Google released their new phone, so don't go thinking that you'll get a perfect product elsewhere.
I got 5 weeks old N900 with no probs other than 2 browser crashes that's couple crashes less than my old iphone 3G had in a month. It just makes me wonder what's the difference with my N900 and with these having these probs.

bugelrex 2010-01-16 00:11
Re: Remove the firmware update
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jaysire (Post 475306)
It's not like the iPhone was meant to be easily downgradeable either, especially when the baseband was flashed.

By your logic, Apple should be sued to the ground, because the only way to downgrade your baseband and firmware was using third party hacks and that's not something the average consumer could be expected to do.

You might say that the iPhone isn't an Enterprise phone, except nowadays it is.
i thought nokia had higher standards than apple. and yes, if apple released a firmware that caused the phone to randomly drain all battery or making the phone unuable they would be sued if there was no workaround or fix within a week.

ndi 2010-01-16 00:40
Re: Remove the firmware update
 
Isn't that a bit ... arbitrary? I give you ... a week. Then you pay!

Suing people is not a plague from God to be just inflicted on people. Suing is for when they CAN do something, SHOULD do something AND they don't, to make them do it or pay. It is not a frustration outlet.

And whether I finger them or not for having no downgrade plan, there's little that can be done now.


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