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soeiro 2010-02-12 20:29

Re: Why does Nokia keep selling the N900 as a phone?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Fargus (Post 523706)
GSM covers the communication standard with the network. SIM menu access is nothing to do with GSM it is an extension to the SIM and is supported by some, but not all, operating standards. There is an issue withe USSD codes for GSM at present but that is another issue.

I didn't know any GSM phone that didn't use this extension. the first, for me, is the N900.

fatalsaint 2010-02-12 20:31

Re: Why does Nokia keep selling the N900 as a phone?
 
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Originally Posted by soeiro (Post 523719)
Unfortunately, they are not all available from their websites. Some features are ONLY available from the SIM menu (credit management, for example, the most important). Some others are available if you do go personally to a service representative.

As for the banks, go figure. I think that is because they already have some kind of technology that has been tested and works with all phones (those that have SIM menus and wap access, that is) and they don't want to change. The other option would be to access from the web browser with java, if it was available.

Well.. I do understand your complaint.. and surprisingly - this was one I hadn't come across before... so before recommending a bug report/feature request or brainstorm.. I decided to search..

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=39048

Would that fall under the same category? If it does.. then all of the above are already done..

If not.. then I suggest searching around and if nothing has been made for this mystifying "SIM menu".. perhaps you could make one and see what comes.

Fargus 2010-02-12 20:34

Re: Why does Nokia keep selling the N900 as a phone?
 
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Originally Posted by soeiro (Post 523728)
I didn't know any GSM phone that didn't use this extension. the first, for me, is the N900.

A lot of phones use melodic ringtones too but it is absolutely nothing to do with the GSM standard. It has as much to do with GSM as the colour of the case.

Whilst I understand your frustration please realise that the technology you are talking about is different.

If the previous mention about WAP is relevant too the N900 has never been given as supporting WAP by Nokia as far as I can assertain. Lack of WAP is related to the lack of MMS.

soeiro 2010-02-12 20:36

Re: Why does Nokia keep selling the N900 as a phone?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fatalsaint (Post 523731)
Well.. I do understand your complaint.. and surprisingly - this was one I hadn't come across before... so before recommending a bug report/feature request or brainstorm.. I decided to search..

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=39048

Would that fall under the same category? If it does.. then all of the above are already done..

If not.. then I suggest searching around and if nothing has been made for this mystifying "SIM menu".. perhaps you could make one and see what comes.

thanks for the hints but I had already voted for those and I am following all those threads since I've come across this problem. But they seem to be stuck, as far as the brainstorming is concerned. To make things worse, there was another "solution" there, which stated that Nokia should provide it by default, but was removed and nobody knows why.

ARJWright 2010-02-12 20:41

Re: Why does Nokia keep selling the N900 as a phone?
 
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Originally Posted by soeiro (Post 523746)
thanks for the hints but I had already voted for those and I am following all those threads since I've come across this problem. But they seem to be stuck, as far as the brainstorming is concerned. To make things worse, there was another "solution" there, which stated that Nokia should provide it by default, but was removed and nobody knows why.

The answer won't please you, but its being addressed by Nokia with Maemo 6 and the ofono stack.

fatalsaint 2010-02-12 20:44

Re: Why does Nokia keep selling the N900 as a phone?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by soeiro (Post 523746)
thanks for the hints but I had already voted for those and I am following all those threads since I've come across this problem. But they seem to be stuck, as far as the brainstorming is concerned. To make things worse, there was another "solution" there, which stated that Nokia should provide it by default, but was removed and nobody knows why.

Oh.. well in that case I am seriously wondering what you hoped to accomplish with this thread?

What's the intent here?

etuoyo 2010-02-12 20:46

Re: Why does Nokia keep selling the N900 as a phone?
 
Okay on a serious note let me give you a usercase to show how bad the phone element can be. In Nigeria there are no free call or text contract packages. You just buy top up, load it on your phone and you are good to go. You dial * then your pin number and then # at the end.

Well I went there for three weeks. I bought credit scratched the card typed in what I need to load the credit and find out that the N900 can't load the credit. So what do I have to do for those three weeks:

I have to switch off my phone and take out my battery, then remove my sim card. I then have to ask someone else to do the same on their phone. I then put my sim card into their phone, replace the battery and then switch on the phone. Then I top up. Then I switch off the phone, take out the battery, take out the sim card and hand over the phone to the kind fellow that let me use his phone. I then put my sim card back in my N900, replace my sim and put on the phone.

Thanks Nokia.

soeiro 2010-02-12 20:48

Re: Why does Nokia keep selling the N900 as a phone?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fatalsaint (Post 523758)
Oh.. well in that case I am seriously wondering what you hoped to accomplish with this thread?

What's the intent here?

The hope for an insightful soul who had not seen the other threads to shad a light on the problem or ...

for someone working for Nokia to go to the boss and say "hey, i think we should reconsider that strategy of ignoring those guys"... ;)

fatalsaint 2010-02-12 20:52

Re: Why does Nokia keep selling the N900 as a phone?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by soeiro (Post 523765)
The hope for an insightful soul who had not seen the other threads to shad a light on the problem or ...

for someone working for Nokia to go to the boss and say "hey, i think we should reconsider that strategy of ignoring those guys"... ;)

Ah... so a random thread in the forum will attract more attention than the official bug tracker that obviously has already received attention from Nokia...

uh..... Good luck with that?

mukks 2010-02-12 20:58

Re: Why does Nokia keep selling the N900 as a phone?
 
wht few guys needed was a cell phone. not a modern day MID. they accidently bought this device without doing any research.

i only seen n900 as a mobile device with an additional feature to make n recieve calls..thats a phone function, u should have checkd wht n700 and n800 was before jumping straight to n900..


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