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Re: really, why no MMS?

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Originally Posted by nosa101 (Post 582215)

Conversations is supposed to be IMish, right?

How about fMMS being integrated as a plugin for conversations? The same way picture sharing is integrated in most IM things.

I don't use MMS so it's not really a big deal

I think it's more that conversations probably has no way to display images or play video. But having it launch the external player (e.g. images or media player app) could work.

Re: really, why no MMS?

....it`s like telling me 'really, not a fax on a modern computer?'

for me MMS is dead, especially when todays phones are capable of emailing the pictures you want!....if I want to send something I send it through email and then an sms to notify the other party to check their email (everybody checks theyr emails at least once a day, so I don`t see the purpose of MMS)

Re: really, why no MMS?

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Originally Posted by Laughing Man (Post 582478)

I think it's more that conversations probably has no way to display images or play video. But having it launch the external player (e.g. images or media player app) could work.

the picture could be a link to a file or maybe a tiny screenshot, which will be launched via an external medium.

it would probably require the code for conversations to be opened though

Re: really, why no MMS?

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Originally Posted by unplugged (Post 582249)

Nokia haven't provided an e-mail Daemon on the phone so if you close the app by accident or forget to load it you dont get notifications (nice one Nokia). The E-Mail client also doesent have any options such as auto send and receive every 10 mins and other features such as prompting to resizing images down so your not sending a 5mp photo and wasting data when a VGA resize would surfice.

You're referring to the email client on the N900?

I get mail notifications fine whether the client is open or closed and it has options to pick how often it automatically checks your mail (starting from every 5 minutes up to 2 hours).

Re: really, why no MMS?

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Originally Posted by raverpol (Post 582474)

u dont have to :) it does it by itself

what version do you have?

Re: really, why no MMS?

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Originally Posted by crail (Post 582140)

i dont see the issue in changing the access point when you send/receive an mms. it tekes me about 3.2 seconds lol

if no one has said this yet i didnt read all the posts

t-mobile usa can use epc.t-mobile.com for MMS and internet you do not need to change apn's

Re: really, why no MMS?

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Originally Posted by RevdKathy (Post 582136)

Why no MMS: because MMS uses a completely different and increasingly out-dated connection system (WAP). It was decided that the n900 would not natively carry more than one apn - and that would be your GPRS/2-3G signal. Persuading n900 to create and connect to a separate apn was a chore in itself (it's no accident that's done with a separate programme before fMMS gets going). These days MMS is about the only thing which WAP is still used for, I think.

Nokia made a conscious decision not to bother, probably in order to focus on other things. When Frals stepped up to the plate they have supported him handsomely in making fMMS as the excellent solution that it is. And it's improving all the time.

If you are having problems with connecting to the wrong apn routinely, there's a fix for that. Try this.

Thx for breaking it down @ maemo.org. again.

Re: really, why no MMS?

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Originally Posted by jerryfreak (Post 582101)

not a troll or basher, i love my N900, but just having a hard time wrapping my brain around how such a basic feature could be omitted phone. i just dont get it. yeah i know its not 'a phone', yadda yadda.

From here:

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timeless_mbp2 ptl: the mms network violates certain rules about ip numbering

(look around that text).

Also look here.

Re: really, why no MMS?

For me MMS is important. I live in Japan where the majority of people communicate via "mobile email" which is a phrase to describe, well, emails to mobile phones. With the 3G networks here, mobile email is implemented via MMS. You get an email address assigned to your mobile phone (not POP3) and the emails (i.e. MMS) are pushed to your phone. For SMS, it's possible to use to send simple text only messages to those on the same network as you - this restricting being down to some business reason and not a technical one. So that means the only way to send a message to someone on another network than yours is MMS.

To give you some idea on usage, in the past 3 weeks I have sent 300 MMSs from my phone (not the N900). I think I am an average user in Japan at this rate since I can receive between 0-20 per day (I am not just spamming my friends!).

As for just using standard email instead, yes, I wish that was the case. Unfortunately some services will filter out non-mobile originated emails in order to stop spam getting to your phone.

I do not know the entire history of the mobile industry here in Japan but I would guess the current usage stems from the early days of messaging when connecting to a POP3/SMTP account wouldn't be feasible technically from a phone.

Anyway IMHO, I personally feel that Nokia could either provide more support to the MMS efforts (via fMMS being fully integrated), or, if they feel that MMS is a dead technology, stop incorporating it into all their other products and encourage the whole industry to follow suit.

Re: really, why no MMS?

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Originally Posted by RevdKathy (Post 582136)

...

Who are you, and what have you done with the bear of very little brain? :D