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sjgadsby 2010-07-09 20:33

Re: “This isn’t the iPhone. I mean, who cares about Nokia?”
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kojacker (Post 746469)
They just dont feature on the US mindset at all, they just dont exist.

Guaranteed conversation any time my N900 rings in public:
"What was that?"
"The Nokia tune."
"The what?"

ysss 2010-07-09 20:34

Re: “This isn’t the iPhone. I mean, who cares about Nokia?”
 
This is another perpetually running argument on this forum...

Nokia vs USA

Some say they just don't need it. Some say they couldn't make it.

Can they afford to ignore the us market?

gerbick 2010-07-09 20:35

Re: “This isn’t the iPhone. I mean, who cares about Nokia?”
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ysss (Post 746485)
Can they afford to ignore the us market?

I'm in the mind that they've already ignored the US market.

kojacker 2010-07-09 20:37

Re: “This isn’t the iPhone. I mean, who cares about Nokia?”
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 746479)
But who do you blame for that? Nokia or keep pointing the finger to the market they've not advertised in for... ages?

Well ofcourse Nokia only have themselves to blame, their management and 'strategy' for the US has been pathetic. It's the truth :(

sjgadsby 2010-07-09 20:38

Re: “This isn’t the iPhone. I mean, who cares about Nokia?”
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ysss (Post 746485)
Can they afford to ignore the us market?

It seems they do so at their peril. Which should make the future interesting for Nokia, as the U.S. market seems quite happy to ignore them.

slartibartfass 2010-07-09 20:46

Re: “This isn’t the iPhone. I mean, who cares about Nokia?”
 
Just one question:
Why is every second post in this forum about the iPhone?

cBeam 2010-07-09 21:03

Re: “This isn’t the iPhone. I mean, who cares about Nokia?”
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kojacker (Post 746469)
Uphill struggle doesnt even begin to describe the task..

I think you are right, Nokia is nowhere it should be. Not in the US, not in Europe, and I fear soon not in Asia and Africa.

However, that does not excuse sloppy and unprofessional reporting as seen in the video posted on TechCrunch. There is a difference in reporting "Nokia's market share in the U.S. is less than [insert number and source here]" and "This isn't the iPhone. I mean who cares about Nokia?".

Laughing Man 2010-07-09 21:06

Re: “This isn’t the iPhone. I mean, who cares about Nokia?”
 
I think Meego should be associated with Intel, not Nokia when advertised in the USA (even though both companies are working on it). Intel at least has the respect of the United States and has the benefit of being a USA based company (helps with the pro-USA crowd).

gerbick 2010-07-09 21:48

Re: “This isn’t the iPhone. I mean, who cares about Nokia?”
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Laughing Man (Post 746533)
I think Meego should be associated with Intel, not Nokia when advertised in the USA (even though both companies are working on it). Intel at least has the respect of the United States and has the benefit of being a USA based company (helps with the pro-USA crowd).

While I agree and see the virtue in a move as such; people will start to say that the Nokia branding has been diluted in order to only supply identity to the USA (or USA-centric) people and thus a bad move.

I'd say that they need to start speaking it up now, everywhere. Developer previews are great and all; but not all people have a developer's mentality or insight.

Marketing. Embrace it. And make it happen now and universal.

mrojas 2010-07-09 22:06

Re: “This isn’t the iPhone. I mean, who cares about Nokia?”
 
The USA market is incredibly backwards in many aspects; and its needs are very different to what Nokia is used to deliver; and hence it has in its DNA. Wouldn't be the first case (like cars, no one uses cars the way USA do). Just for example, I can't believe that in the USA, the person that receives the call has to pay for it. We, here in the third world, haven't had such treatment since 1992.

I think that sometime this past years; someone at Nokia ran numbers and found that pleasing the USA market was not worth the investment, and decided to ignore them.

I am pretty sure that, revenue wise, it is still not worth the investement to focus on the USA market.

The problem for Nokia right now is that the USA market is noisy.


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