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jaem 2011-01-13 09:38
Re: Any news on N9
 
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Originally Posted by kevinp93 (Post 919290)
Article about the N9 in 'The Gadget Show': http://fwd.five.tv/gadget-show/gadge...to-star-at-mwc

apparently, its going to be announced at the MWC in feb. For more info see the link. :)
Given that they show a picture of an N810W with a caption saying it's an N8 running Symbian^3, I think it's safe to say they're making up nonsense just like everyone else.

kojacker 2011-01-13 11:58
Re: Any news on N9
 
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Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 919336)
Well. I think a lot have changed.
Ok that's interesting, because the last I read of it the new OS was to be Maemo6 (and deb) based but with the MeeGo compatability layer which would make software behave like MeeGo - it would be a kind of hybrid OS. However it would be marketed as MeeGo, the idea being to get the MeeGo brand going.

I don't want to derail the thread too much, but can you give me a quick run down of what has changed then in the past few months?

speculatrix 2011-01-13 13:04
Re: Any news on N9
 
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Originally Posted by n900faniam (Post 919320)
T3 is a leading gadget magazine here in the UK. According to the latest edition (Dec 2010) the N9 will be launched i the first quarter of 2011 with the meego os.
Not sure what article you're referring to, this was what turned up in google:
http://www.t3.com/news/nokia-meego-'...nt'?=50205

I'm sorry to say that I think T3 is rather lame. Whilst they do sometimes score a "scoop", mostly the magazine is pretty much worthless as a source of technical information IMNSVHO :(

Their problem is the british media disease of needing to oversimplify things. Also, because they're in print, they have to rush stuff out to make their deadlines, and often don't seem to have time to check articles properly for accuracy. You can tell that many reviews are written with little or no hands-on time with the device (or the reviewer didn't actually understand what they were doing or simply rewrote another gadget site's article.

At least they turned off article comments, which were filled with spam and nothing else.

I used to listen to the T3 podcast for amusement value, even though it was pretty crappy, but they broke it somehow, I pointed out to them that a podcast verification tool showed their syntax was defective but because it worked on ipod/iphone, they didn't care.

Oh dear, sorry to have ranted. Anyway, I wouldn't believe anything T3 wrote unless I saw it elsewhere reported by the original news source.

bugelrex 2011-01-13 21:45
Re: Any news on N9
 
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Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 919150)
yeah and you are a ttroll. doesnt have a clue what you are talking about.

Qt is used everywhere!
For every one QT job posting, there is probably 100 to 500 job postings for Java. If you disagree, you clearly are not a professional developer.

Here's the data to back it up

silicon valley jobs:
http://www.simplyhired.com/a/jobs/list/q-qt/l-94089 => 80 job openings
http://www.simplyhired.com/a/jobs/list/q-java/l-94089 => 9000 job openings

jobs in uk:
http://www.simplyhired.co.uk/a/jobs/list/q-qt => 181 openings
http://www.simplyhired.co.uk/a/jobs/list/q-java => 18,000 openings.


jobs in Nokia:
yeah, QT's probably pretty important!

cfh11 2011-01-13 21:52
Re: Any news on N9
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jaem (Post 919355)
Given that they show a picture of an N810W with a caption saying it's an N8 running Symbian^3, I think it's safe to say they're making up nonsense just like everyone else.
Ha, those idiots!

v13 2011-01-13 21:54
Re: Any news on N9
 
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Originally Posted by tswindell (Post 919161)
A good Java VM implementation is much faster than Python. But Java is a bit of a nasty language imo, then again, I'm not a massive Python fan either, but I do like high level dynamic languages.
That sounds like FUD. You can't possible make such a generic statement. Where are you basing this statement ?

FWIW, most python code uses libraries which are written in C/C++. This means that only a small fraction of the actual program runs in python. I hope you're not benchmarking a for loop but a full program instead.

Also, you cannot compare those two languages since java practically does not use any libraries at all. At best it has language extensions but not any libraries that other non-java programs may use. Python on the other hand mostly uses existing platform libraries and wraps them. As such, you cannot compare a gui program written in java and in python since the java version will have a very very bad gui with many limitations. Just try to make a GTK or Qt or Wx or ...(fill the blank)... -based gui in java. Since you cant, you cannot perform realistic speed comparisons.

my 0.02€

stlpaul 2011-01-13 22:07
Re: Any news on N9
 
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Originally Posted by nightwings (Post 919143)
That is a spam website. Congratulations on helping them in their spamming goals. :D

Dave999 2011-01-13 22:27
Re: Any news on N9
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by kojacker (Post 919447)
Ok that's interesting, because the last I read of it the new OS was to be Maemo6 (and deb) based but with the MeeGo compatability layer which would make software behave like MeeGo - it would be a kind of hybrid OS. However it would be marketed as MeeGo, the idea being to get the MeeGo brand going.

I don't want to derail the thread too much, but can you give me a quick run down of what has changed then in the past few months?
First, I have also read that hybrid plan several months back. I'm not sure if it was true or not. Was it ever announced from nokia or some unknown blog? But since then several things have changed. Ari jaaksi left the building. Elop took over. Stallman and some other women were hired(never learn the name). I'm pretty sure they all have a leading role when it comes to meego. And they want to do it their way. Not Ari's and OPK'way. Now what does this information give you? well no real information about meego or the n9. But be sure Plans have changed...

mattbutsko 2011-01-13 22:45
Re: Any news on N9
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by bugelrex (Post 919775)
For every one QT job posting, there is probably 100 to 500 job postings for Java. If you disagree, you clearly are not a professional developer.

Here's the data to back it up

silicon valley jobs:
http://www.simplyhired.com/a/jobs/list/q-qt/l-94089 => 80 job openings
http://www.simplyhired.com/a/jobs/list/q-java/l-94089 => 9000 job openings

jobs in uk:
http://www.simplyhired.co.uk/a/jobs/list/q-qt => 181 openings
http://www.simplyhired.co.uk/a/jobs/list/q-java => 18,000 openings.


jobs in Nokia:
yeah, QT's probably pretty important!
Ya know, 80 job listings in Silicon Valley is actually really good since you're only one person.

Lullen 2011-01-13 23:33
Re: Any news on N9
 
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Originally Posted by mattbutsko (Post 919835)
Ya know, 80 job listings in Silicon Valley is actually really good since you're only one person.
The thing was about java is much more popular, wich it is...


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