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ArnimS 2011-02-15 01:27
Re: Nokia Plan B
 
1) “5 years for Symbian”. Seens to identify the authors as Symbian developers who missed the news that their career skills are outdated. What market surveys can you show the investors to prove that phone customers will be willing to pay a 50-200 euro ‘Nokia premium price’ for a Symbian phone in 1, 2… 5 years? You face bankruptcy and want to continue paying millions for an ~eternity~ in the accelerated 21st century product lifecycles to prop up the dead guy from Weekend at Bernie’s? Not good. End-of-life time.

2) You don’t have time or the strength to go head-to-head with iStore or google-social networking. It is time for judo and that judo move is called android-under-maemo/meego. Deliver phones that do *more* than any android phone simply by adding the android execution environment to linux – whatever can ship today:

http://ymartin59.free.fr/wordpress/i...et-n900-maemo/
http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/08/m...hone-starting/

You throw around the word ‘agile’ without understanding what it means. Definitely need some brains in that outfit – just not yours.

mikecomputing 2011-02-15 01:50
Re: Nokia Plan B
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by NvyUs (Post 946613)
Plan B can't be trusted why would shareholders try and cause inner fighting like that and watch there investment plummet.
they have no long term vision they only registered the domain for 1 year.
yet they think they know whats best for nokia in long term lol.
give it a rest you anonymous idiots.
maybe because they already has lost 12 % in to days???

mikecomputing 2011-02-15 01:53
Re: Nokia Plan B
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by somedude (Post 946652)
Agreed and the tone does not match with the regular share-holders official press release. The tone is very straight forward.

Seriously guys get over it. Its not like this is the end of the world. Sure it was not something that was most of the tech. enthusiasts wanted but it was a pure business decision.
you forget the fact that the stocks got down *bouut 15 percent in two days so maybe the stockholders doesnt like the decisions it almost locks like Microsofts wins on this deal Not Nokia

mikecomputing 2011-02-15 01:58
Re: Nokia Plan B
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ArnimS (Post 946661)
1) “5 years for Symbian”. Seens to identify the authors as Symbian developers who missed the news that their career skills are outdated. What market surveys can you show the investors to prove that phone customers will be willing to pay a 50-200 euro ‘Nokia premium price’ for a Symbian phone in 1, 2… 5 years? You face bankruptcy and want to continue paying millions for an ~eternity~ in the accelerated 21st century product lifecycles to prop up the dead guy from Weekend at Bernie’s? Not good. End-of-life time.



2) You don’t have time or the strength to go head-to-head with iStore or google-social networking. It is time for judo and that judo move is called android-under-maemo/meego. Deliver phones that do *more* than any android phone simply by adding the android execution environment to linux – whatever can ship today:

http://ymartin59.free.fr/wordpress/i...et-n900-maemo/
http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/08/m...hone-starting/

You throw around the word ‘agile’ without understanding what it means. Definitely need some brains in that outfit – just not yours.
Lifespan of five years for symbian may sound dumb but fact is not all people want smartphones or similar "complicated phones". Old people just want to have a very siomple phone. Thats where symbian40 still is valid.

and in european people still using symbian phones without dislike it ... My guess is that E7 can success or could until idiot elop scared them away by saying symbian is dead.

somedude 2011-02-15 02:02
Re: Nokia Plan B
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 946672)
you forget the fact that the stocks got down *bouut 15 percent in two days so maybe the stockholders doesnt like the decisions it almost locks like Microsofts wins on this deal Not Nokia
Current exchange rate of NOK is US $8.84 and guess what in July 2010 it was US $8.02 and on May 2009 it was US $9.64. I still cannot see the correlation between Elop's statement and their share price. Until this date (2-13-12) for a year their highest exchange closing price was US $15.89. So how would you explain that? If you really wanna look at the stock market make sure you look at the right place and be able to analyze it better than engadget and other troll blogs do.
:cool:

mikecomputing 2011-02-15 02:10
Re: Nokia Plan B
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by somedude (Post 946679)
Current exchange rate of NOK is US $8.84 and guess what in July 2010 it was US $8.02 and on May 2009 it was US $9.64. I still cannot see the correlation between Elop's statement and their share price. Until this date (2-13-12) for a year their highest exchange closing price was US $15.89. So how would you explain that? If you really wanna look at the stock market make sure you look at the right place and be able to analyze it better than engadget and other troll blogs do.
:cool:
I am not a financiall expert but my litle holdings I loosed about 20% in a month most of that after the 11 february... but this is in european.

somedude 2011-02-15 02:31
Re: Nokia Plan B
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 946683)
I am not a financiall expert but my litle holdings I loosed about 20% in a month most of that after the 11 february... but this is in european.
Well if you were not financial expert your broker should have given you better real experience on investing money on the corp. whose stock has been swinging like a **** without underwear.:D
But I feel sorry for you thats what the business is like, I hope you learned that you cannot make money while you loose money. OR you cannot just invest being emotionally driven.
You already have a very good first hand experience, you lost your money and also Nokia was loosing its money by betting in symbain and meego when they were just not cutting it, you can only drag a dead horse so far until you have let go. And Elop and the board made the decision that they will keep loosing if they do not pull their money out now and invest somewhere else (you probably have the same feeling? if not think about putting your finances somewhere else, seriously..)

gruik 2011-02-15 06:08
Re: Nokia Plan B
 
It's very interesting! I like this project! I follow up on twitter@ i cross my fingers that it comes true!

ysss 2011-02-15 06:25
Re: Nokia Plan B
 
Sounds like technical-oriented fanboys. They need to take the market more seriously (B2B alliances, addressing ecosystem partners, etc) before addressing the technical aspect.

Bratag 2011-02-15 06:25
Re: Nokia Plan B
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by somedude (Post 946652)
Agreed and the tone does not match with the regular share-holders official press release. The tone is very straight forward.

Seriously guys get over it. Its not like this is the end of the world. Sure it was not something that was most of the tech. enthusiasts wanted but it was a pure business decision.
Yes - a bad business decision


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