Re: What is aegis [MSSF] and how does it affect Free Software development?
 

Nah, you got your timelines mixed up. MeeGo 1.2 release came after Feb11.

Anyway.

For freedom lovers, if:
* SIM lock isn't active
* Security lock isn't active (you know, pincode, protecting data)
* Developer mode is active (i'm a little unsure if this is even required)

You can flash your own kernel and rootfs without aegis. We have MeeGo CE running with phonecalls, etc.

Re: What is aegis [MSSF] and how does it affect Free Software development?
 

In *some* countries.

In *some* countries.

That only exists in *some* countries.

So no modern phones subsidised by contracts are able to make phone calls (which is where the operator is hoping to recover their subsidy) via any means but GSM?

Then buy your device from someone who allows you that freedom.


Then stay with your N900 or Neo.

I would accept a device which *can*, but doesn't always need to, enforce "platform security", in order to be competitive in certain restrictive markets which have a huge influence on device adoption, *if* I have the choice to disable the platform security.

Again, this is not a technical issue. If you don't like the fact that your operator only provides sim-locked devices (note, this is check done before checking if open mode is allowed, so no unlocked phone can be prevented from being used in open mode), then I fail to see why you use this operator.

If your country allows all operators to sim-lock all phones forever, well, I think you have bigger problems ...

Re: What is aegis [MSSF] and how does it affect Free Software development?
 

if your phone is sim-locked and your operator has prevented open-mode. If you have a non-sim-locked phone, or if your operator allows open mode, you can use an unsigned kernel.

The bootloader is always verified, and device reset if it does not verify, regardless of simlocking etc. or not. This may be a more serious problem than the kernel verification (which can fail if unlocked or open mode is allowed).

Re: What is aegis [MSSF] and how does it affect Free Software development?
 

Thanks for clearing that part: custom kernels can run under "Open Mode".

Do you know if the Service Providers will be able to disable Open Mode (Development Mode)? Diagram suggests that as possibility, and that is important for people obtaining N9s through contract.

Re: What is aegis [MSSF] and how does it affect Free Software development?
 

If you obtain a device through contract, the terms and conditions of it's usage is through that contract. Usually they'll do this through SIM lock.

If you want full freedom, pay for the whole thing at once. It's often cheaper to get a temporary loan with the bank anyway and/or set aside money.

Re: What is aegis [MSSF] and how does it affect Free Software development?
 

If it is a subsidised phone, with the subsidy given on the basis of additional revenue that the operator will derive from your (restricted) use of the device (e.g. billable communication, licensed media etc.), then it is not your device.

If you have a device which is not subsidised in any way (but your plan covers the full cost of the device), then the operator should be obliged to allow you to unlock your device.

if the operator is *not* obliged to unlock *your* device, once again, the technical implementation is not your problem, your problem is that your government supports big companies dictating how you use communication devices. The solution to this is not technical (as the companies will simply use other means to prevent you using a device that doesn't have the technical means to support their business model). Unfortunately, technical solutions that allow them to do this already exist, and you can't change that.

Re: What is aegis [MSSF] and how does it affect Free Software development?
 

In short yes, anything other is quite invasive.

From whom? As a "consumer" we have to state the features we are interested in. Hopefully someone will address those needs.

My Neo works fine thank you. :D
Hopefully GTA04 boards will be available.

I am not talking about the choice of informed buyer. I am talking about the majority of posters at N9 thread, who will buy the device without checking if it can be run in Open Mode.

In short yes.

Re: What is aegis [MSSF] and how does it affect Free Software development?
 

Is there any quick way of checking if Open Mode is disabled on device while running Harmattan?

Re: What is aegis [MSSF] and how does it affect Free Software development?
 

No clue, sorry. SIM lock is more likely to be it though.

Re: What is aegis [MSSF] and how does it affect Free Software development?
 

We know Harmattan is a MeeGo by Nokia, so maybe less open and hackable but this won't change anything for me, I'll use the N9 because there's no better device actually. What about the N900 platform security, how does it works?