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ekzwolfe 2012-01-27 00:45

Re: Nokia Q4 results are out. Lost $ 1.4 Billion. Now what Nokia will do ???
 
time for nokia to move on over to the (what did they call it) "future disruptions" technology.

gosh 2012-01-27 01:17

Re: Nokia Q4 results are out. Lost $ 1.4 Billion. Now what Nokia will do ???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by m4r0v3r (Post 1156194)
i dont understand why the shareholders havent acted yet.

Maybe they own stocks at Microsoft?

Rugoz 2012-01-27 03:30

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To be fair the n9 has been on the market for longer and sold about the same as the lumia 800.

Critical will be how the lumia 900 performs on the american market. If nokia doesn't succeed with wp7 there they could as well have chosen meego.

Someone knows why navteq made a huge loss?

geneven 2012-01-27 03:44

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I think that Elop was right to drag Nokia strongly in one direction, rather than muddling along in several directions. Unfortunately, for my purposes he chose the wrong direction. Nokia will fairly soon live or die rather than survive and slowly bleed to death. It is appropriate that it will end in the loving but lethal arms of Microsoft.

stickymick 2012-01-27 04:20

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Meanwhile, they're popping the corks in celebration of selling the 1.5billionth s40 device since 1999. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/mobile/business-16712308 and crying into their champagne at http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/mobile/business-16740787.

jaripi 2012-01-27 05:26

Re: Nokia Q4 results are out. Lost $ 1.4 Billion. Now what Nokia will do ???
 
I think that Nokia made right moves, when they have chosen Lumia and MS money (Nokia needs that money) ... it seems Lumia sales well, even it is just launched - it is good for Nokia ... by the way, I am N9 owner and it is really my favour phone ... and I really believe that Meego Harmattan is still in Nokia, when Mr. Elop is already gone ... well, just waiting PR 1.2 and then PR 1.3 and then PR 1.4 ... because I prefer it over big boys: WP-Lumia, Google-android and Apple-ios, for various reasons ...

Estel 2012-01-27 06:11

Re: Nokia Q4 results are out. Lost $ 1.4 Billion. Now what Nokia will do ???
 
I'm pretty sure, that Nokia will follow laws of, erm, "ecosystem" and get eaten/cannibalized by biggest predator, erm, partner :p Well, we know some "ecosystem" cases, where one bug eat another after copu...erm, business merging.

/Estel

SamGan 2012-01-27 06:52

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There is some reasoned speculation online that N9 outsold Lumia. N9 may have sold 1.4 million and Lumia just over a million. Nokia will not announce breakdown figures which makes you wonder why.

Lumia sales have been purchased with intensive marketing and unsustainable incentives while N9 was banned from major markets by a desperate Elop. Yet only 1 million sold is actually a failure while N9 outselling Lumia would be a slap on his face.

For comparison Apple sold 37 million iphones in Q4.

jaripi 2012-01-27 07:24

Re: Nokia Q4 results are out. Lost $ 1.4 Billion. Now what Nokia will do ???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Estel (Post 1156381)
I'm pretty sure, that Nokia will follow laws of, erm, "ecosystem" and get eaten/cannibalized by biggest predator, erm, partner :p Well, we know some "ecosystem" cases, where one bug eat another after copu...erm, business merging.

/Estel

Nokia knows that too ... so I believe that they will continue with multiple OS (WP, Symbian and Meego Harmattan and there is a rumor about Meltemi too) ... and what really means something for Nokia, is total sales, not a sale of a single product or OS (all phones, inc. WP + Meego Harmattan + all Symbians) - iPhone sales was not a single model either ...

By the way, how about if a high end phone will cost only 100 - 200 EUR in a near future ? - well, excluding notebook phones, but they are not phones :) - then Nokia might be strong again ...

whatsa 2012-01-27 07:38

Re: Nokia Q4 results are out. Lost $ 1.4 Billion. Now what Nokia will do ???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SamGan (Post 1156389)
There is some reasoned speculation online that N9 outsold Lumia. N9 may have sold 1.4 million and Lumia just over a million. Nokia will not announce breakdown figures which makes you wonder why.

Lumia sales have been purchased with intensive marketing and unsustainable incentives while N9 was banned from major markets by a desperate Elop. Yet only 1 million sold is actually a failure while N9 outselling Lumia would be a slap on his face.

For comparison Apple sold 37 million iphones in Q4.

SamGan SamGan SamGan....



The N9 figure you stated is rubbish so stop it. We all know it was higher and someday Nokia will disclose that - end of story.

Cherry picking I see (selective numbers)

you may as well say apple sold 3.7m iphone 3 a poor performance
to nokias 20 million. (an equally stupid comparision).


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