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-   -   Is this not real multitasking? [Android] (https://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=87193)

rcolistete 2012-10-03 00:55
Re: Is this not real multitasking? [Android]
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by herpderp (Post 1275592)
Most of you seem to fail to understand WHY iOS and Android enforce a very strict control over what runs in the background.
Because they are dumbed down mobile OS made to be popular among millions of dumbed down users. Goodbye real multitasking and even real state of last used softwares, after all, only us geeks know what they mean.

rcolistete 2012-10-03 01:12
Re: Is this not real multitasking? [Android]
 
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Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 1275624)
The decision originally to limit multi-tasking to serial tasking was mainly because of RAM limitations on the iPhone 3GS.
I still have my Psion Revo+ working : 16MB of RAM/disk memory, about 100 installed softwares, full multitasking and visible file system, EPOC OS with micro-kernel, 2 years without rebooting even when I was developing (typing, compiling and testing) on it in OPL, qwerty keyboard way better than current smartphones.

gerbick 2012-10-03 02:40
Re: Is this not real multitasking? [Android]
 
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Originally Posted by rcolistete (Post 1275641)
I still have my Psion Revo+ working : 16MB of RAM/disk memory, about 100 installed softwares, full multitasking and visible file system, EPOC OS with micro-kernel, 2 years without rebooting even when I was developing (typing, compiling and testing) on it in OPL, qwerty keyboard way better than current smartphones.
The programmers then knew how to code without so much bloat. Efficiency isn't practiced any longer by no means - why do it because the fast GPU, CPU and RAM combo can allow bad programmers to look halfway decent. Nor did your Psion (I SO wanted one!) have to deal with the same number of systems, 3D graphics, colors and what not that people expect now.

Still... that device was so ahead of its time man. People could learn so much from those "simpler" times.

Frappacino 2012-10-03 03:20
Re: Is this not real multitasking? [Android]
 
lol neckbeard snobbery...

and thats why this place will die an slow obscure death while he world moves on

gerbick 2012-10-03 03:57
Re: Is this not real multitasking? [Android]
 
lol. I've been called a lot of things, but never a snob nor a neckbeard.

patlak 2012-10-03 06:58
Re: Is this not real multitasking? [Android]
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by herpderp (Post 1275592)
Most of you seem to fail to understand WHY iOS and Android enforce a very strict control over what runs in the background.

Just search this forum for misterious battery drains on the N900 and N9. There is a tradeoff here, they restricted background processes (you CAN run bakcground tasks like downloads/uploads, music player, anything), so that amateur programmers creating bad apps don't waste battery power.

On Maemo, it was easy for a badly written app to consume all the battery easily, because it could run in the background without any safeguards.
Since you're talking battery, those ads that appear in Android and iOS consume quite a lot of battery charge.

don_falcone 2012-10-03 07:34
Re: Is this not real multitasking? [Android]
 
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Originally Posted by Frappacino (Post 1275651)
lol neckbeard snobbery...

and thats why this place will die an slow obscure death while he world moves on
Sure, move out & on. And don't let the door hit you on your way out. We'll keep the house party running as long as it fits us :D
I enjoy the company of wise, smelly neckbeards more than pastures (worlds) full of playful, noisy, clueless kids. :cool:

leoniedelt 2012-10-04 20:18
Re: Is this not real multitasking? [Android]
 
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Originally Posted by don_falcone (Post 1275712)
Sure, move out & on. And don't let the door hit you on your way out. We'll keep the house party running as long as it fits us :D
I enjoy the company of wise, smelly neckbeards more than pastures (worlds) full of playful, noisy, clueless kids. :cool:
I am embarrassed to say i had to google "neckbeard".

As you were.

szopin 2012-10-04 20:30
Re: Is this not real multitasking? [Android]
 
No worries, I siried genius and got a neckbeard Einstein instead.What to believe, what to believe...

reinob 2012-10-05 08:20
Re: Is this not real multitasking? [Android]
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by marxian (Post 1275552)
That's a load of waffle. It can't be real multitasking if a task is closed without user consent. Simples.
Ever heard of the OOM-killer? :)

I've actually set overcommit_memory to 2 (and overcommit_ratio to 90) to make sure the kernel doesn't do any overbooking. But there's still a chance that the kernel might decide to kill a program without asking the user.


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