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Really? You've got to be kidding me. If that happens you must buy it!

And your point is... ?
All phones phones these days have rounded corners - even Windows phones.

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Not true. Lumia 620 is curved so are iPhones, much easier on hands

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What do rounded corners have anything to do with being easy on hands?

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The average Joe won't buy a Jolla over Android or iOS or WP. But a savvy user and/or Harmattan/Nokia fan just may. As would people that are finally starting to look for an option that fits them better than the boring/staid iOS (iOS 7 helps) or the lacking in customization WP (8.1 might change some minor things) to be considered an option by iOS or Android holdouts.

But seriously... you're talking to the people that would buy Jolla mainly because it's not iOS or Android or WP. So let's start with the obvious. Linux based. Open source. Gesture based. The company has embraced the community and tools/frameworks/tools/software that most here know, trust or use nearly daily.

And each point - I know the counterpoints for the most part - will invariably not be enough for you. So let me ask you the converse, why wouldn't you buy one? Lack of sales? Nothing is on sale as of this very post. Because it's unfamiliar? So was iOS, Android and WP (but not WinCE at the core of WP7) at one time or another.

Meh... I actually logically answered you. Please do the same.

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Well Gerb, it will please the mutants here. But that is not who they target. They need wider audience than the anomalies. They need it to simply make money. Why am I critical of them? Simple. They really didn't do justice to N900 and N9 was a disaster. So why would I expect anything better from them? I don't. At the same time I don't want people just to buy the device blinded by fanboyism here of how good it may be. People need to realize that this team failed twice before. The third time may happen. Lets wait and see.

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That's how you start though. iPhone came when wi-fi in a phone was a rarity. Same for responsive touch screens. Now, it's all about freedom from the walled gardens for a lot of folks.

N900 wasn't really a mass market item. I don't care what anybody on this forum states, it's not something easily handed off to say somebody's grandmother. Perhaps a savvy parent, but not a grandmother. That's where iOS shines. Grandmother's can pick it up easily.

You want to concentrate fanboyism; yet you ignore the fact that lining up for days at a time for the next barely upgraded iteration of an iPhone is the real definition of fanboyism. What you're witnessing here is brand loyalism. That's an equal cardinal sin in my books.

You're right. Jolla needs to make money. But what's their true goal? To be different. To sale different means that they will probably have to take routes that you'd not consider popular or even viable. Give it time, they've yet to start selling one thing.

The N9 sold well considering what was done to it - released in Azerbaijan and remote countries, not officially released in the UK, Germany, France, US or any other country that I'd consider "1st world" for the most part. Blame whomever you want for that, but it just was sold in some rather odd places.

You say that they've failed twice, this will be the third time. Each and every start and stop of Maemo/OSSO/MeeGo was a failure to me. But then again, WinCE 6.0, WP7, WP7.5, WP7.8, WP8, WP8.1 - who strikes out that much? Only WinCE 6.0 was a success. And that's mostly due to lack of competition at that time - Palm (dead), BlackBerry (dying) and Nokia (beyond dead) yet you show patience for Microsoft.

I'm not asking. Just observing. You say you'd wait... and there's only one thing that's ever told me the absolute truth - time. We'll see.

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Pretty much. I go through what's on offer: ugly, ugly, ugly, barely passable, ugly, ugly... In the end I end up buying the one that I find the least unagreeable.

Same with phones for that matter: ugly (Android), ugly (iPhone), downright fugly (WP)... Jolla might as well end up the only passable option left.

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Why don't iOS use long press(home button) to show used apps like android? How do you switch between application in iOS.

Android have pretty ok multitasking and the will soon open all apps in windows so user can run lots of app at same screen. At same time..great for tablets.

That is probably the biggest difference to jolla. Live Multitasking...

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The gestures must be good. Apple already started to copy them. ;)

And it's only a few simple gestures that are natural and easy to remember. Nothing like the gesture craziness of BB 10. Just try in the SDK emulator to get a feel of it.