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Re: Affordable Mass Production of Parts for the Enhancement of All Our Devices
Ahead of sched.
Here we go... Only need to clean a few deet edges and she is done. I started this years ago...all told I couldn't have spent more than a month on it. Unfortunately at the time (and since) ...I hadn't stumbled into any more moose antler ...so it was from leftover pieces that weren't really prime material IMO that I decided to make this . I cannot call it the most "level" box I've made ..because of the back...(I call it a back instead of a "bottom" because I enjoy looking at it as much as looking at the lid :D) Light as a feather...but very strong....the walls, back and lid are 3/16 " at it's thickest down to less than a 1/16 " at it's thinnest. I purposefully made this as proper containment for my devices for my desktop...as seen from this photo... http://s26.postimg.org/4rvavmgbd/inside.jpg I have doubled-up some green leather I am debating lining it with...torn between leather or felt...hmm anyway...this "device repository" I made to hold my n800's...but I made sure the width and height of this container could accommodate a Pandora device. So consequently.... this lil' beauty will hold 2 n800's comfortably with room to spare... or will hold a Pandora, or a Pyra, or a few n810's , or a few n770's, or a few n9's, or a few n950's, or a few Jolla's, or a few n900's as equally well. It can just as easily hold any single said device a charger and connecting cable perfectly fine. (except for the Pandora or Pyra...this container isn't THAT big to put a charger and cables as well inside....I think anyway...I personally don't have a Pandora so I couldn't know if I could get all the peripherals in with it. But based on the Pandora/ Pyra dimensions she will fit no prob) The content of the carving however is another matter. for example ...I decided to go with a un-baroqued (:D) simple clean key-pattern border surrounding not just the sides (I am STILL tempted to go crazy and a ton of intricate finer detail...but am restraining myself...I do need to clean the edges of the bandwork and polish the whole surface of this creation ..though)... http://s26.postimg.org/mteftfac9/cor...w_of_sides.jpg and decided it was apt to continue with the same pattern (of course ) on the lid...I did however run into problems with my model. Tempestuous...willful...feral little darling she is...and she bubbled-out my border after settling into it. No harm done though...turned the border a freakishly cool way..interesting pattern she curled up into too ...eh?.. A common enough pose in european work ....with just a bit of persuading to get my model "vulning" (a heraldric posture- simply put......to tear at the breast...) as well. In all... accomplishing the "ae" logo of the Maemo symbol. No entity should have an issue with this usage since "ae" is a common and not proprietary symbol ... I'm not using "the proprietary colours" also there is enough distinction between my lid pattern and the official logo to definitely be considered different as a topper... I don't believe the Oxford Dictionary has allowed anyone exclusive patent rights on the usage of "ae" ...yet. (Pardon the extended disclaimer (:D) ) http://s26.postimg.org/tnoqj42zd/lid.jpg I've had to keep feeding her stupidphones...ever since I found her....just to keep her calm. She HATES locked crap. hehe...like any one here does eh? :D Unfortunately ....though she was obliging for modeling for the lid...and I did explain to her it was a "frame" not a cage or a prison...when it came time to model for the back...she broke the border frame...and decided it was time to finish eating the stupidphone I promised her..I captured the moment for posterity. :D http://s26.postimg.org/k1v62tbtl/back.jpg the Latin in the scroll at the bottom she is gripping translates as ... " Freedom or Death" .....apt ...and I concur. I shall discuss at length ...later my lovely model. next...to express in a better vein ...not only how thin and yet strong this material is...here are the lid and back held up in front of a 20 watt...flor. light bulb. http://s26.postimg.org/w7kdd7qjd/backlit_lid.jpg http://s26.postimg.org/ktxu20g0p/backlit_back.jpg This can then give you some insight as to how I must "see" things when carving....everything brightly illumined essentially will be darkest dark...a negative ...so to speak...once it is properly stained , preserved and finished...it is deceptive though due to the muddy tint of the moose...and varying thickness of the inside and the angle of the light source...but you can get an Idea how I think out what I do from those 2 photos perhaps... I am thinking of doing an illustration or two...possibly a t-shirt...I do like her pose. Anyway a little clean-up and she's done. Her name by the way is R3ND-R (Render) ...I call her 'Ren for short...I have integrated her into a few other pieces as well...but I'll chat about them another time. From what I've gathered from her gestured communication....her story is quite an interesting one ....but I won't bore those reading this .... Anywho...If this is what I do when I'm bored.... with scraps from the workshop floor...imagine the cases (possibly I'm making proper fitting ones as we speak), accessories (same again), and bodies I could be making.... There is no one that I know of who does what I do...to my ability (precious few in that department) and is applying it thus. I won't say it over and over again about how this can be affordably copied...look and feel just like the original...but with none of the muddy darker blemishes ..just a clean ivory or china white look and feel....indistinguishable from the original. Or in whatever hybrid combination either. Also....there is a new development and I'll be posting a vid on my lil' site....I think it would be interesting for you to see...not often...very rare indeed ....do I get my hands on what I'll show you...and what my intended thoughts are for it. I would hope...at the least from what I have just posted.... to see a wee bit more interest from our community here... More is coming...and each piece is much different in it's purpose than the last. See...I'm not just a one-off kinda guy. Make something and that's the last of it. I don't just do this stuff for breakfast... I do it before breakfast... This kinda stuff and stuff you can't even imagine ...is my daily bread. It's what I breathe, eat and sleep. It's "what I do". I would hope my abilities are utilized here... If not ...too bad...it's not gonna stop me making this stuff... now that my attention is focused this way... but someone else or some other entity may divert my attentions ... at least from here. Don't get me wrong now... I love this place...but ... I've been carving and painting and making cool stuff since I was a kid... grew up studying methods of construction..curricularly and extra-curricularly ...so to speak...studied under great people..too Essentially ....I didn't know what I wanted to be when I grew up... I knew from the crib. and so my work takes precedence. Whoever can distract me with the right incentives and a cool idea I'm keen to... wins... until that is done ... then I'm bored... and need to make something way-cooler....ad infinitum... So that's it in a nut-shell guys. Left out a lotta wordy stuff.. Especially left out R3ND-R's origin story... All great superheros, icons and mascots.. have an origin story y'know... :D Another time perhaps... back to the bench....getting bored with all this talky-talky ...writey-writey. Update: Due to an overwhelming lack of interest in production.... Having just finished the fine detail carving and polishing.... This particular item shortly will be readied for staining, fine scraping and finally preservation...at which point it will be unsuitable and unavailable for mass-reproduction. This particular project soon to be terminated. Update: Artifact preserved. This mass-reproduction project terminated. |
Re: Affordable Mass Production of Parts for the Enhancement of All Our Devices
http://celticartco.mobi/page3.html
New Developments... I figured everyone should see what I have just gotten... before I start marking it off for saw work to cut it up into pieces for planned and future work. Very rare for me to run into...very. Very rare for most people to ever see... nowadays. Also... A look into what I intend to do with some of the "new find" (freakin' wild by anyone else's thinking I imagine....:D) And ...A synopsis of what I've been working on at the workbench...that is partially or nearly completed. |
Re: Affordable Mass Production of Parts for the Enhancement of All Our Devices
Finished rough cutting all the elk up...
took long enough...longer work coming.... halving all of it for plates....to work... save the points and the beams...starting that within the week. I cut the 1st section off of the moose... it is flawlessly white throughout...a very healthy beast...exceptional... the "Maemask" and the full forearm to fingertip bracer will be exquisite... Already have the patterns and designs in my mind for the pair... the rest I am chopping up for other ideas.... A few have mentioned I should turn my attentions to certain projects.... but I have heard no word past just that.... and...well... that isn't much for me to work with... and even less incentive to begin. I've already created and am creating works I figured many if not everyone at tmo could use...would like....... multi-device in mind even...to appeal to all...and rendered...wild and artistically to boot ...functional art...stuff other communities and device lines could never... ever ...offer..... and other than perhaps ...a dozen people hitting a thanks button and a few commenting ... no one seems actually interested in developing anything.... even though I can't remember how many times people have said..."if only someone would make _ _ ..." ...so working on projects others casually mention they would like .........would result in ...what...? In the immediate ...I will be continuing the fine detail on R3ND-R ... then cleaning edges and finally polishing the entire surface... preparing it for it's preservation... which means it will be preserved with a crushed black walnut paste rubbed into it... and then the whole of it finely polished and scraped once again and it will be done. The process of preservation means of course that it will not be available for reproduction ... since the methods of mold making would possibly strip the preservative...and I will not be doing that entire process twice... I will be continuing with the creation of said items for our device lines...that and more..... but it appears I will be making such things for myself... which I don't mind :D But ...I had hoped... that I'd be able to get enough interest so others could have this stuff as well ... I am no masochist ... and though I make sure others are aware of my skill-set... I am not interested in self-aggrandizement.. by posting stuff ad nauseum ...with no resulting movement .... As a consequence ...I do not see a point in running this post any longer since taking photos, videos, and (sparing everyone the) extended posts (hehe :D ) ...do consume time I could be making things instead. |
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You can limit the amount and/or length of them to save time... if you're able to ;) but don't cease to produce them completely! If you want to get some people interested in developing something, I think you should start with a brief and clear "specification" of what and how could be done. Now it's pretty hard to extract this info from all posts - even I'm not sure if I got it properly ;) |
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Not interested in turning this post into a "...Look-what-I-carved/ made-today .." Post.
There already is a post like that..."look what I drew on my phone..".. I am neither that vain nor attention seeking and (no offense intended) more professional than that. There was a point to all this...applying what I do to facilitate a new (old for me) innovative method for our community to have what they desire at the most rock-bottom affordable price possible..with casting methods that are more efficient and cheaper than fabrication or plastik manufacture. This method Which could be done by anyone with a 10' by 10' room and a handful of materials cheaply acquired and a couple test runs to get mixes right. The result would be a product more durable than plastic, more resilient than metals...I could make masters carved delicately...they could be reproduced....exactly. By mixing other materials into the resin mix...the resin then acts as a "binder" ...binding the mixed material like a glue. In this way... you can have powdered stone, or gem, or antler in the resin mix....it reduces the amount of resin that is needed. As well...the finished product "feels" "looks" and has the weight of whatever the original substance was ...ie- look, feel and be as heavy or light as the antler, gem or stone.... Colouring can be added ...in batch or separate casts for personal preference. Or just make copies in resin only..... and add colouring to make it "look" like antler...or marble....whatever the customer wants. In all it is the optimal method for production in high or low volume production. I have done such work...many,many,many times over. In the 1st post I state I'll make master copies for reproduction of whatever community would wish for. But I'm not about to make individual pieces in assembly line out of antler. it is a waste of antler. a waste of my time and ability. the cost would be high. it is cheaper for me to make a master and then for it to be reproduced using the cheapest and most resilient material and formula possible. This is it. There isn't anything better nor cheaper. Likewise I also said I work on other different works for patrons...I don't mind spending time doing this for community....but my days of mass production are past...I have no prob with making the masters...some one else can have fun producing copies. I did production ...it was fun... not interested AT ALL now...I spend the time on originals. Community would have to find someone who does resin work or someone here who is intrigued with the process could start. I have already consumed time, resources and tools which could have been spent in more profitable ventures. Personally I enjoyed the making of things I will enjoy the use of...sadly I do not see sharing any of it due to lack of interest. Specifically concerning the neo900 spacer...I could do it. In a heartbeat. I would only make 1. I would...never-ever-ever-ever make 100+ carved out of antler. That 1 could easily be cast ....stupid-cheap. But I ain't doing the casting. Judging by community reaction to creating things they could use ...niche or multi-device oriented...what will happen when I make said part? In the same vein...Gta04 needs a new body concept...turn my attention there? I could do it. In my second heartbeat. And rendered exquisitely to boot ...no device would look as beautiful or elegant...and producible in an affordable resin...coloured, with whatever material combinations the customer desires.... Creation costs of masters is low...since I do not need a warehouse nor an extensive machine fabrication shop...nor computer guided whatever.. I made and make EVERYTHING BY HAND..that being said I can handle nuances ..machines can't ...or cost hideous amounts to do that also being said.. for something dimensionally more complex than a spacer frame...(hell...just to make the sandwich part of mine I needed a n900 to work with so the fit would be exact)...from spec or blueprint would have been well-nigh impossible for me. I explained that. Consequently if a gta04 body design is required I need a gta04 with screen and whatever else would be in the sucker. I don't care if it worked or not...not relevant ....but it isn't getting done by waving a wand...nor from spec or blueprint by me. And no one is chucking even an old broken freerunner my way to work with? I like less when people suggest I do something but don't have enough ......conviction...or supply ...or ...whatever.... to hand me broken old devices ...to even start... I like less ...begging for old broken devices JUST so I could prove a point I don't need proving. In short it doesn't smell good to me. In short...the booth which has the free neo900 spacer frame and the free beautifully rendered and carved gta04 body... both masters in antler... ready for affordable casting... that free booth is past me and down the hall beside the free beer booth. I set a timeline...1 month...way past now...for some consensus.... I stated repeatedly how cheap the method....and how the process is done. I have shown my ability and the speed that work can be accomplished in for said production...I even created and am creating accessories suitable for everyone regardless of device...Wickedly rendered to boot. Option A was chosen: (from post 1) Option A being....no one is interested. That has passed and nothing has occurred. 6000 + views up to now tell me there is interest...perhaps ... an easy 1-click-to-post of amusement ...perhaps... I'm not continuing this post for amusement. Nor am I just going to "make" things for anyone simply on suggestion alone. If I put out the wherewithal I want to see some reciprocated movement.It isn't just going to be my time, resources, material and cost at risk....however low or insignificant it may be or seem to others. I have no prob believing in the process...I used to do it...anyone can read up on resin casting....I have no prob trusting in my ability to make ...whatever...been making things an awful long time......Involvement at SOME level by others...ALMOST ANY LEVEL OF INVOLVEMENT BY OTHERS in fact...tells me there is at least a base belief ...faith...trust ...conviction. And that would make me feel better ...that would let me know that I'm not just wasting my time . At this moment ....the lack of interest...of involvement... to me...(regardless of the fact I'm offering the proverbial golden goose here).... sums itself up to smelling bad. As I said I am going to continue making device line works .... I just see little relevance in postings, photos or explanatory vids of anything... any longer... here. It's a waste of my time |
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Oh, now I understand.
But I think waiting just one month for someone capable to organize such production to show up in such a small community is simply too short. As a reference, it's still matter of months till Neo900 spacer or GTA04 case will become relevant and top priority. At least with those two issues it's not about producing anything right now, but rather about finding possibilities for future (or maybe even completely new future projects) - and I personally find your idea brilliant, as mold making has always been a big problem for small hardware projects. |
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Up to this moment ....other than a few people commenting...I have been essentially shouting down an empty hall.
ANY mention of movement by ANYONE interested in pursuing affordable reproduction ANYTIME within the last month had ample opportunity...6000+ views say plenty have seen this post. but none interested. Hmm actually there was 1 person interested in a part for a n900/neo900 and a couple of people saying "I should do _ _ ...." all the above is not enough incentive. |
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My god give me your brain will help immensely in my notes:( seriously you turned this thread to a ****************** sorry it is irritating.. I say leave this thread as the messed wikipedia and start afresh in new thread concisely please :) or even let me or someone skilled to create a summary when they have the time to scrutnize the whole thread and pm it so for gods shake visitors to the thread are not torterd and lost in the pool of essay quality posts. ;-
its a brillant idea for the existing and forecoming crop of devices:) |
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