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willi6868 2014-09-24 20:54
Re: Jolla Sales/Success?
 
A little OT:

S*itPhone 6+ bends and breaks in your pocket... :D:D

Am I hearing someone to be still complaining about Jollas build quality? :rolleyes:

bockersjv 2014-09-25 08:09
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I have no complaints on the hardware, given the price. I was very disappointed by the lack of NFC though and the price for a replacement screen, the latter is of course a volume thing, the more sold the cheaper replacement parts will be.

The fact that Jolla would not do repairs outside of Finland for a while was very poor.

cvp 2014-09-26 07:06
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the funny is... jolla repair your broken screen for 210-230€? (i think i remember to read this price here)

and in India, you get over snapdeal, the complet phone for 210€ :) ... of course, no shipping incl.

JulmaHerra 2014-09-26 11:12
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Jolla is not the only one having expensive replacement screens. In the past I was in position where I was handling all phone related issues in company. We were using mostly Lumia's but also some Android stuff. There were cases where phones were dropped and screens were broken. Asked for replacement, and it cost more than buying a new phone, so those never got repaired. Basically, if warranty or insurance doesn't cover it, throw it away and buy a new one if you are not prepared to repair it by yourself using some cheap replacement parts from eBay...

vistaus 2014-09-26 11:20
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bockersjv (Post 1440467)
I have no complaints on the hardware, given the price. I was very disappointed by the lack of NFC though and the price for a replacement screen, the latter is of course a volume thing, the more sold the cheaper replacement parts will be.

The fact that Jolla would not do repairs outside of Finland for a while was very poor.
Jolla phone has NFC.
And sure, not doing repairs outside of Finland can be a bummer. But even big companies do it that way. My mum had a Nokia Lumia 820 1,5 years ago. Screen broke without doing anything to make it break and she had to send it for 200 euros to some Nokia Repair Facility in Finland.

bockersjv 2014-09-26 12:01
Re: Jolla Sales/Success?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by vistaus (Post 1440644)
Jolla phone has NFC.
.
No it does not, not in a usable way. The NFC chip is low power and only used for TOH identification it will not penetrate the outer case.

vistaus 2014-09-26 13:28
Re: Jolla Sales/Success?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by bockersjv (Post 1440652)
No it does not, not in a usable way. The NFC chip is low power and only used for TOH identification it will not penetrate the outer case.
NFC payments are possible with Jolla phone so yes, it does penetrate.

strongm 2014-09-26 14:04
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vistaus (Post 1440667)
NFC payments are possible with Jolla phone so yes, it does penetrate.
That news may surprise Jolla the company, given the following very explicit comment by Jolla engineer Jonni Rainisto

Quote:
"... no, NFC hardware antenna has limited range reserved for TOH only"
when specifically asked if any additional NFC functionality might be made available.

juiceme 2014-09-26 16:00
Re: Jolla Sales/Success?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by vistaus (Post 1440667)
NFC payments are possible with Jolla phone so yes, it does penetrate.

Quote:
Originally Posted by strongm (Post 1440672)
That news may surprise Jolla the company, given the following very explicit comment by Jolla engineer Jonni Rainisto

Quote:
"... no, NFC hardware antenna has limited range reserved for TOH only"
when specifically asked if any additional NFC functionality might be made available.
Well, it might be that the NFC is specified low-power, enough just to read the tag next to it but there's nothing that prevents it to be a bit more longrange.

Actually I would be really surprised if it was even possible to tune the output power so precisely that it would reliably read the TOH tag and at the same time be incapable of reading an external tag.
(NFC's designed to be able to read multiple tags in the vicinity simultaneously, BTW)

strongm 2014-09-26 16:25
Re: Jolla Sales/Success?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by juiceme (Post 1440681)
Well, it might be that the NFC is specified low-power, enough just to read the tag next to it but there's nothing that prevents it to be a bit more longrange.

Actually I would be really surprised if it was even possible to tune the output power so precisely that it would reliably read the TOH tag and at the same time be incapable of reading an external tag.
(NFC's designed to be able to read multiple tags in the vicinity simultaneously, BTW)
Odd that no one has managed to do that, then, eh?


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