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pichlo 2016-08-07 07:26

Re: Jolla C for sell anyone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by peterleinchen (Post 1511898)
No copy/paste, text selection in mail/browser after 3 years.

To be fair, even almighty N900 lacked a text selection in email. You had to use the forward trick to make it available, same as in Sailfish.

peterleinchen 2016-08-07 14:04

Re: Jolla C for sell anyone
 
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Originally Posted by pichlo (Post 1511925)
To be fair, even almighty N900 lacked a text selection in email. You had to use the forward trick to make it available, same as in Sailfish.

Erm, not exactly. To be correct here:
on N900 it is possible to select text by holding SHIFT and swiping over the text.
Whereas after forwarding you can also use the keyboard functionality.

On N9 both is not possible, so we might consider SFOS version a step forward? :rolleyes:

nodevel 2016-08-07 14:20

Re: Jolla C for sell anyone
 
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Originally Posted by peterleinchen (Post 1511939)
Erm, not exactly. To be correct here:
on N900 it is possible to select text by holding SHIFT and swiping over the text.
Whereas after forwarding you can also use the keyboard functionality.

On N9 both is not possible, so we might consider SFOS version a step forward? :rolleyes:

What?!?

How come after many years with the N900 (I even used it recently, after my Jolla broke and before I got Jolla C) I never found this functionality?

This would have saved me many angry moments over Modest trying to copy the forwarded text.

peterleinchen 2016-08-07 14:28

Re: Jolla C for sell anyone
 
THAT is the best about the N900.
This device keeps me/us entertained after so many years. :D

nodevel 2016-08-07 16:21

Re: Jolla C for sell anyone
 
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Originally Posted by peterleinchen (Post 1511943)
THAT is the best about the N900.
This device keeps me/us entertained after so many years. :D

It certainly does!

And you know what's best about it? That Jolla/SailfishOS somewhat follows in its footsteps.

I thought to myself - wouldn't it be funny if this worked on Jolla as well (there are not many SailfishOS+keyboard users, so it could exist unnoticed), so I dug up my bluetooth keyboard, connected it, went to the e-mail client and voilą! It somewhat works!

How to reproduce (on Jolla):
  1. Open an e-mail
  2. Tap on the text (body)
  3. Hit Ctrl+A (the text becomes highlighted)
  4. Hit Ctrl+C
  5. Now you can paste it anywhere in the system.

Sure, you cannot select individual words and given the number of keyboard users, it's more like an easter egg, but still a nice find :)

An example:
http://i.imgur.com/4aQUPN5.png

gerbick 2016-08-07 21:00

Re: Jolla C for sell anyone
 
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Originally Posted by peterleinchen (Post 1511939)
...so we might consider SFOS version a step forward?

Didn't know about that workaround years later. Thanks for pointing that out.

But SFOS did launch with MMS amongst other refinements. I'd call it a step forward indeed. But that's all relative to what you consider important as an indicator of a step forward.

juiceme 2016-08-08 15:14

Re: Jolla C for sell anyone
 
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Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 1511965)
But SFOS did launch with MMS amongst other refinements. I'd call it a step forward indeed. But that's all relative to what you consider important as an indicator of a step forward.

Well, I use MMS'es extensively, on the average sending/receiving maybe 5 messages per week.

During "The Mighty N900 Week 2016" when I reverted to my trusty N900 I ended up missing some messages that I really would have liked to receive :eek:

There used to be a feature with my operator, that if a MMS was sent to a device that does not support such beasts would store the message in a network server and instead send a https link as SMS to the recipient. I thought it would still be available but seems it has been dismantled a long time ago, probably due to all devices nowdays supporting MMS'es...

I clearly remember using that service, and am quite sure it was available about 10...11 years ago. However when I called my operator the helpdesk had not even heard about such a thing and when I insisted, he called some senior helpdesker who vaguely thought he had heard about it "really long time ago in the past, before my time"
Pity they only have youngsters with no sense of history on call... :D

peterleinchen 2016-08-08 15:40

Re: Jolla C for sell anyone
 
@juiceme
that feature should still be available, at least it is in Germany, Vodafone.
Why did you not install fMMS if you use MMS that often? (I have probably send/received your monthly amount in my lifetime :p)

Normally they flag a number to be able to receive, so probably you missed those MMS due to the 'step forward' (your number flagged as able to receive and your provider does not take care of anymore?).

[rant]
But the most ashaming and annoying is that those helpdesk assistants normally just know how to type in your words into a search interface. And have no idea about the product (in this case: mobile network)!
And even more disgusting: we (the masses) just keep silent and accept this behaviour of the big companies.
[/rant]

juiceme 2016-08-08 16:36

Re: Jolla C for sell anyone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by peterleinchen (Post 1512028)
@juiceme
that feature should still be available, at least it is in Germany, Vodafone.
Why did you not install fMMS if you use MMS that often? (I have probably send/received your monthly amount in my lifetime :p)

Normally they flag a number to be able to receive, so probably you missed those MMS due to the 'step forward' (your number flagged as able to receive and your provider does not take care of anymore?).

[rant]
But the most ashaming and annoying is that those helpdesk assistants normally just know how to type in your words into a search interface. And have no idea about the product (in this case: mobile network)!
And even more disgusting: we (the masses) just keep silent and accept this behaviour of the big companies.
[/rant]

I know about fMMS but have not installed it, as N900 is not my daily driver. I realized too late that I am going to be missing MMS'es and placed my trust into being able to fetch them later via the weblink way...:(

Nice that Vodafone still does that, Elisa has lost the ability to mists of timeeee...
And I fully agree to that, it is unexcusable for companies to discontinue useful services like that; I cannot really see how much can they save dropping the MMS recovery service for example!
(well of course they save couple kiloeuros in maintanance costs if they drop feature like that when changing platforms for example, but thats just peanuts to them robbers...)

peterleinchen 2016-08-08 17:22

Re: Jolla C for sell anyone
 
Aaannd it starts anew ...


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