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olf 2021-02-12 20:09

Re: F(x)tec announces Pro1 X with Lineage OS and Ubuntu touch
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by robthebold (Post 1570970)
[...], and I'm less and less eager to get the Purism phone every day now that I've tried the Phosh thing.

+1 :o

Quote:

Originally Posted by robthebold
[...] I've got the OnePlus One running UBPorts, and it's daily driver capable, I just would rather be on SFOS and leave the Ubuntu phone at home for playing around. I'm open to suggestions . . .

https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Ada...hybris#Oneplus
The Oneplus One "Bacon" is well supported, in terms of hardware functions and maintenance (i.e. primarily, upgrades to new SFOS releases: at SFOS 3.4.0 at the moment, which is the current GA release).
But you would not be able to "leave the Ubuntu phone at home for playing around", then. ;)

Ariadeno 2021-02-15 12:46

Re: F(x)tec announces Pro1 X with Lineage OS and Ubuntu touch
 
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/p...l#/updates/all

The SoC has been changed to Snapdragon 662

bennypr0fane 2021-02-24 19:25

Re: F(x)tec announces Pro1 X with Lineage OS and Ubuntu touch
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by suicidal_orange (Post 1570963)
The mainlined kernel was the best feature, keyboard second and external monitor third, now one's a long way off if it happens at all and one's gone.

Which one is long off and which one is gone?
The external monitor thing was one thing I was really looking forward to.

Do you guys expect the performance hit from the new chipset to be rather noticable in daily use?

mosen 2021-02-24 23:13

Re: F(x)tec announces Pro1 X with Lineage OS and Ubuntu touch
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bennypr0fane (Post 1571056)
Which one is long off and which one is gone?
The external monitor thing was one thing I was really looking forward to.

External Monitor support will happen in some capacity according to F(x) answers to IGG comments and discussions i followed. In question is if the same method like on Pro¹ can be used since usb 3.1 hdmi video out is not officially documented in sd662 specs. Community hope is currently that F(x) knows better and the feature is just undocumented (for marketing reasons?) but still available.

Quote:

Originally Posted by bennypr0fane (Post 1571056)
Do you guys expect the performance hit from the new chipset to be rather noticable in daily use?

In daily use you might much more profit from the 20-30% less power consumption of the sd662 imo.
Benchmarks say it can be up to 20-30% slower then 835 but that still means "same" compute power per watt :D

Some games might give lower fps.
My Phantasy is not vivid enough to come up with what android users do on their device nowadays, maybe video editing to max out the cores?
For sfos kabouik remarked that it might have an impact on performance in containers where the 835 really shines currently. But that is to be seen.

suicidal_orange 2021-02-25 00:03

Re: F(x)tec announces Pro1 X with Lineage OS and Ubuntu touch
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mosen (Post 1571061)
External Monitor support will happen in some capacity according to F(x) answers to IGG comments and discussions i followed.

Yes, will be interesting to see how they make it work - extra expense for an external adaptor doesn't seem likely but I can't believe no-one else discovered the chip was capable if it is. There was no such comment when I posted and that was the feature I thought lost but marketing is one of two legitimate careers where lies are commonplace (the other being politics) so in a way I wouldn't be surprised.

Quote:

Originally Posted by bennypr0fane (Post 1571056)
Do you guys expect the performance hit from the new chipset to be rather noticable in daily use?

My current phone (Xperia X) has a 650 and it's the fastest phone I've ever owned, the 662 should still be a nice upgrade in all but graphics and I won't miss what I never had.

Bundyo 2021-02-25 08:36

Re: F(x)tec announces Pro1 X with Lineage OS and Ubuntu touch
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by suicidal_orange (Post 1571062)
Yes, will be interesting to see how they make it work - extra expense for an external adaptor doesn't seem likely but I can't believe no-one else discovered the chip was capable if it is. There was no such comment when I posted and that was the feature I thought lost but marketing is one of two legitimate careers where lies are commonplace (the other being politics) so in a way I wouldn't be surprised.

Both 660 and 665 have video out, so I won't be surprised if the page is just not properly updated. Some CPUs don't list video out, but still have it listed in the specs pdf. Let's hope this is similar kind of problem, but with video out omitted from everywhere. :D

suicidal_orange 2021-02-25 11:27

Re: F(x)tec announces Pro1 X with Lineage OS and Ubuntu touch
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bundyo (Post 1571063)
Both 660 and 665 have video out, so I won't be surprised if the page is just not properly updated. Some CPUs don't list video out, but still have it listed in the specs pdf. Let's hope this is similar kind of problem, but with video out omitted from everywhere. :D

I look from the way it works in x86 CPUs - broken core(s), unusable block of cache or whatever? Disable that bit and sell as a cheaper model! Both Intel and AMD do this, hopefully it's not how it works at Qualcom...

ric9K 2021-06-30 12:19

Re: F(x)tec announces Pro1 X with Lineage OS and Ubuntu touch
 
Hi guys-and girls,

Long time no see, lots of work.
I am melting. New work, need to send vids and pix reasonably quick (ment: directly, with no n900 cable, sync, email...)
And also non blocking instant update of contacts - my n900 needs some minutes with 2000+ contacts to let me send an sms after contact update.
And also ability to show vids and pics on my device with reasonable quality.

So....
Was thinking of, finally a Pro1-X.
Do you think it is risky to order on Indiegogo? Better (but more expansive) to order on main site?

Thanks & BR

mosen 2021-07-01 07:46

Re: F(x)tec announces Pro1 X with Lineage OS and Ubuntu touch
 
Imo the options are:

You want to support F(x)tec with sharing the risc for Pro¹-X? Get one from IGG with possibility of full risc on your side since IGG does no returns after 14 days.
There have been isolated cases where dissatisfied backers (due to SD662) got full return just so they move on and do not spam the IGG comments. But yeah, that comes with severe faceloss :D

Ordering via homepage is more safe since afaiu FX is obliged to European customer rules and in case of no delivery at all, you might have a better chance to get compensated.
For both options you will be kind of far back in the que now and i would not bet on delivery before september or october.

Getting a used Pro¹ might be the best option in your situation. I see Pro¹ changing owner weekly so it is a matter of following the sell thread in the FX forum or auction sites directly.

ric9K 2021-07-01 19:41

Re: F(x)tec announces Pro1 X with Lineage OS and Ubuntu touch
 
Thank you Mosen for this useful clarification.
It kind of calmed my precipitation.
Well, anyway, it will last long until I replace my n900 I guess...
Gonna reread the "What to get to replace my N900" thread, just in case...
BR

nikos523 2021-10-17 09:03

Re: F(x)tec announces Pro1 X with Lineage OS and Ubuntu touch
 
Hi everyone.
Any news about the release yet? I’m wondering if I missed any updates cause it’s been a year.

suicidal_orange 2021-10-17 09:07

Re: F(x)tec announces Pro1 X with Lineage OS and Ubuntu touch
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nikos523 (Post 1572804)
Hi everyone.
Any news about the release yet? I’m wondering if I missed any updates cause it’s been a year.

The latest updates are on their Indigogo page - should be another one this week confirming the latest problem (I hope not but parts were still "pre-ordered" as of the last update which doesn't sound like they actually have them. No parts no production run...)

nikos523 2021-10-17 10:35

Re: F(x)tec announces Pro1 X with Lineage OS and Ubuntu touch
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by suicidal_orange (Post 1572805)
The latest updates are on their Indigogo page - should be another one this week confirming the latest problem (I hope not but parts were still "pre-ordered" as of the last update which doesn't sound like they actually have them. No parts no production run...)

Thank you! I didn’t know they have updates on indigogo because with the first one we had almost all the updates here!

bennypr0fane 2021-10-17 12:02

Re: F(x)tec announces Pro1 X with Lineage OS and Ubuntu touch
 
What about the dual boots? Can we gonna have both Linux and Android on it? I'm kinda lost between all the updates, takebacks...
Shipping date is still supposed to be November in the store, at least that hasn't changed since summer.

suicidal_orange 2021-10-17 12:56

Re: F(x)tec announces Pro1 X with Lineage OS and Ubuntu touch
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bennypr0fane (Post 1572807)
What about the dual boots? Can we gonna have both Linux and Android on it? I'm kinda lost between all the updates, takebacks...
Shipping date is still supposed to be November in the store, at least that hasn't changed since summer.

Officially no dual boot but this is in the comments on Indiegogo:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Volker Hamann
There is some improvement in the development of Android Boot Manager (Dualboot) by xda Developer Luka177.
Thread is here

The ship date was still showing August for at least a couple of weeks after they knew it would be later, hopefully that wont happen again.

Maemish 2021-10-17 20:17

Re: F(x)tec announces Pro1 X with Lineage OS and Ubuntu touch
 
Shipping estimated to start on november according the last update. I presume christmas is optimistic date to get my device which I was supposed to get on my birthday on march. I would really like chen to be more present here and share with us.

Maemish 2021-10-17 22:03

Re: F(x)tec announces Pro1 X with Lineage OS and Ubuntu touch
 
And I really hope there could be fully working maemo leste on it one day.

olympus 2021-10-18 10:30

Re: F(x)tec announces Pro1 X with Lineage OS and Ubuntu touch
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Maemish (Post 1572821)
And I really hope there could be fully working maemo leste on it one day.

What about official Sailfish OS? Still waiting on (any) news.

olympus 2021-10-18 10:40

Re: F(x)tec announces Pro1 X with Lineage OS and Ubuntu touch
 
On the other hand.. I must admit, I've gone through the specs of the Pro 1 X and all in all ofc it's a special phone and everything but when it comes out the specs will be really old and weak for this price range.

Maemish 2021-10-18 13:01

Re: F(x)tec announces Pro1 X with Lineage OS and Ubuntu touch
 
For guys like me who would be using N900 if Maemo Leste would be ready the specs look allright.

Macros 2021-10-28 11:00

Re: F(x)tec announces Pro1 X with Lineage OS and Ubuntu touch
 
Finally a new update, and it is great!

https://link.indiegogo.com/view/5348...56bcd/fc919573

In short:
  • Antenna had to be redesigned, work is in the final stages
  • All Components are sourced, most are already secured
  • Testing has made big progress
  • Safety Net support for vanilla Android (But who wants to use that)
  • Production slot will be booked in approximately two weeks
  • Production company has agreed to prioritize production of the Pro1-X

Maemish 2021-10-28 18:52

Re: F(x)tec announces Pro1 X with Lineage OS and Ubuntu touch
 
Yes. But the shipping estimate is delayed I presume. No mention of it. Maybe they learn. I believe they ship when I get mine.

bennypr0fane 2021-11-15 18:16

Re: F(x)tec announces Pro1 X with Lineage OS and Ubuntu touch
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Maemish (Post 1572863)
Yes. But the shipping estimate is delayed I presume. No mention of it. Maybe they learn. I believe they ship when I get mine.

Shipping estimate in the store is still November, i.e. now. Kinda shady, when on IGG they say they haven't even started assembling the things yet...

Maemish 2021-11-15 19:19

Re: F(x)tec announces Pro1 X with Lineage OS and Ubuntu touch
 
Yeah, I feel crap for this cause I pmd Chen to get him share something here to ease tension and to clear the air but he seems to have left this place or atleast not liking to go through the same as what happened with the first device. Understand him totally but still hoped he would have stuck here and bared everything and be a winner.

chenliangchen 2021-11-17 11:46

Re: F(x)tec announces Pro1 X with Lineage OS and Ubuntu touch
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Maemish (Post 1572921)
Yeah, I feel crap for this cause I pmd Chen to get him share something here to ease tension and to clear the air but he seems to have left this place or atleast not liking to go through the same as what happened with the first device. Understand him totally but still hoped he would have stuck here and bared everything and be a winner.

Thank you for your message. :) I am still hanging around!

Working remotely especially China closed board and I could not visit factory did increase some difficulty but good news will come shortly. Thank you so much for the supportive message and the trust. :)

Maemish 2021-11-17 13:27

Re: F(x)tec announces Pro1 X with Lineage OS and Ubuntu touch
 
Nice! Thank you. Good you are still lurking here.

Fellfrosch 2021-11-17 16:47

Re: F(x)tec announces Pro1 X with Lineage OS and Ubuntu touch
 
I know it is frustrating to wait. Anyway as a proud Pro1 user, who was stupid enough to smash it's screen but got really fast help from chen and his team. I am quite sure they do everything to deliver. :)

Maemish 2021-11-18 04:38

Re: F(x)tec announces Pro1 X with Lineage OS and Ubuntu touch
 
To compare of how long some here in the forum had to wait for a refund from Jolla for their tablets... Yeah, we're good.

Maemish 2021-11-24 20:12

Re: F(x)tec announces Pro1 X with Lineage OS and Ubuntu touch
 
I understood that they changed the camera same time with the chip but have I understood incorrectly?

https://www.fxtec.com/pro1x

Maemish 2021-11-30 18:35

Re: F(x)tec announces Pro1 X with Lineage OS and Ubuntu touch
 
Delayed untill January for production. No estimates for shipping.

bennypr0fane 2021-12-03 00:24

Re: F(x)tec announces Pro1 X with Lineage OS and Ubuntu touch
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Maemish (Post 1572959)
I understood that they changed the camera same time with the chip but have I understood incorrectly?

https://www.fxtec.com/pro1x

The specs on the site say the rear cameras (there's just one, isn't there?) have 12MP.
The pics in the November update show a camera with a "48MP" print next to it...

bennypr0fane 2021-12-03 00:26

Re: F(x)tec announces Pro1 X with Lineage OS and Ubuntu touch
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Maemish (Post 1572993)
Delayed untill January for production. No estimates for shipping.

Buuut the homepage store still says "SHIPPING IN NOVEMBER 2021" (not "estimated"...): :p

Maemish 2021-12-03 07:14

Re: F(x)tec announces Pro1 X with Lineage OS and Ubuntu touch
 
I sent a message to Chen. Let's see if it gets updated.

clort 2021-12-10 08:31

Re: F(x)tec announces Pro1 X with Lineage OS and Ubuntu touch
 
Perhaps some the tall children are beginning to realize that the lockdowns do hurt them?

Maemish 2021-12-10 08:50

Re: F(x)tec announces Pro1 X with Lineage OS and Ubuntu touch
 
Chen answered me couole of days ago and they changed the shipoing date to February 2022. I asked now about the specs too. Let's see if it gets updated.

chenliangchen 2021-12-10 16:58

Re: F(x)tec announces Pro1 X with Lineage OS and Ubuntu touch
 
I can confirm we have all the components ready. It's now the remote work and related slow down that causes some issue (reliability tests and GMS tests) as I cannot get back to factory I have to rely on others (Unless I isolate for 21+7 days, which by the time I am released it's too late)
I am working on getting production finished before the Chinese New Year, very likely by the look of it. I just wish no more issues were found...

Maemish 2021-12-10 17:09

Re: F(x)tec announces Pro1 X with Lineage OS and Ubuntu touch
 
Do you have by the way a check up of your manufactured products when they are finished? I recall that some IT products (not yours) manufactured in China were found including bits and pieces they weren't suppose to include. Your product is something people concerned with security are buying so I hope there is some kind of check for motherboards.

peterleinchen 2021-12-10 20:22

Re: F(x)tec announces Pro1 X with Lineage OS and Ubuntu touch
 
If you refer to this bloomberg story, it was quite well just fake e. g.

Nevertheless, a valid question.

Maemish 2021-12-10 21:27

Re: F(x)tec announces Pro1 X with Lineage OS and Ubuntu touch
 
Thanks for bringing me to light! Embarrassed being mislead, but more that I let a lie come out of my mouth. It is one thing to be lost, but totally another to drag others with you. I read hcker and cyber security news and yet I have missed this info totally. It seems this came out at the time I was really busy with other than IT stuff and wasn't reading.

Macros 2021-12-31 20:12

Re: F(x)tec announces Pro1 X with Lineage OS and Ubuntu touch
 
Just 4 hours and 25 Minutes before the new year we have an update!

https://link.indiegogo.com/view/5348...b260c/2812c7a6

In short: One factory was hit by Covid and caused further delays.
But everything else looks good and they claim that as a worst case scenario devices will arrive in March.


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