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Re: Seamless Software Upgrade v4.2008.36-5 is out!

Yet another victim of reboot loop... Should have checked here before the update. I have... had Diablo with rtcomm update and lots of application from both diablo and chinook repositories on my N810 :(

Re: Seamless Software Upgrade v4.2008.36-5 is out!

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Originally Posted by svrkprabhakar (Post 228446)

Well guys, you are right that it cant continuously poll and you are also right that it can't be 24 hrs. But it should happen for sure at least once immediately after the tablet connects to internet (as many number of times it connects to internet in a day)!

You really hate battery life, don't you? Polling the complete repository list isn't a trivial task (especially not for those people who insist on installing every repository they can find).

Re: Seamless Software Upgrade v4.2008.36-5 is out!

New update... I never turn the tablet off at night but do take it "offline"... so automatic update did not occur... started up App Manager and looked for new update... finally came up after about 10 minutes of just sitting about half way through the "Looking...".

Started the install... took about 5 minutes from start to finish... rebooted automatically... and the tablet appeared as it did prior to the update... all programs were there as before... all settings were as before... for all intents and purposes the tablet appeared as though no update had even happened. Checked Control Panel "About"... showed new update, so I am assuming the update did in fact take place and all is good.

One thing I did notice with the update is that the Camera app seems to have been fixed... prior to update rotating camera would NOT flip image... now it works properly!

Tablet is working just fine... no challenges what-so-ever! Thanks for the Team Effort!!!

Regards,

Omega

Re: Seamless Software Upgrade v4.2008.36-5 is out!

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Originally Posted by harpgliss (Post 228470)

Hi,

The update worked fine here with my N800.

One issue I have is I lost about 12 mb of device memory.

n810.avi + manuals + moby´s mp3?

i had the lack of powerbutton menu and infinite reboot loop with led flashing. luckily i've downloaded the diablo fw to my laptop so reflash was very fast (2 minutes maybe)

Re: Seamless Software Upgrade v4.2008.36-5 is out!

Thanks Fanoush! Now booting from SD with new version. Here's how I did it (on my n800; not sure about n810 booting from internal card), in case it helps others:

I booted from flash. Then did SSU update, which worked fine. Then I used fanoush's initfs flasher. (Follow instructions in this order: 4, 5, 9, 10; you do not need to enter "mv bootmenu.conf.n8x0.example bootmenu.conf" at step 5.)

Upon reboot, I had my bootmenu, and there was no option or need to run SSU while booting from SD.

I will now refrain from rotating to portrait mode until emjayes updates sliderotate. I sure hate to get those double panes!

EDIT: Below, the smart kids say I'm confused. Even though control panel while booting from SD shows updated version, it's wrong. Read on, or come back here later after I've figured out how to update SSU while booting from SD....)

UPDATE.

Re: Seamless Software Upgrade v4.2008.36-5 is out!

Ditto, thanks fanoush! Booting from sd card perfectly.

Now just waiting for new rotation etc kernels. Almost everything else seamless. :)

Re: Seamless Software Upgrade v4.2008.36-5 is out!

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Originally Posted by codeMonkey (Post 228528)

Ditto, thanks fanoush! Booting from sd card perfectly.

Now just waiting for new rotation etc kernels. Almost everything else seamless. :)

Is the kernel new, then?

(I'm still fighting to verify my SD backup before I go nuts with the update... ;))

Re: Seamless Software Upgrade v4.2008.36-5 is out!

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Originally Posted by lm2 (Post 228526)

Thanks Fanoush! Now booting from SD with new version. Here's how I did it, in case it helps others:

I booted from flash. Then did SSU update, which worked fine. Then I used fanoush's initfs flasher. (Follow instructions in this order: 4, 5, 9, 10; you do not need to enter "mv bootmenu.conf.n8x0.example bootmenu.conf" at step 5.)

Upon reboot, I had my bootmenu, and there was no option or need to run SSU while booting from SD.

I will now refrain from rotating to portrait mode until emjayes updates sliderotate. I sure hate to get those double panes!

Does this apply to the n810 boot from internal memory?

Re: Seamless Software Upgrade v4.2008.36-5 is out!

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Originally Posted by Benson (Post 228532)

Is the kernel new, then?

Yes, and kernel sources are available on the Maemo 4.1.1 repository. I'm not looking forward to see how this is going to go down.

Re: Seamless Software Upgrade v4.2008.36-5 is out!

That sounds like the SDK repos are now caught up to the device repos... I hope so, anyway.

Re: Seamless Software Upgrade v4.2008.36-5 is out!

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Originally Posted by Benson (Post 228537)

That sounds like the SDK repos are now caught up to the device repos... I hope so, anyway.

Yes, but it also sounds like this.

Re: Seamless Software Upgrade v4.2008.36-5 is out!

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Originally Posted by st5150 (Post 228499)

I don't see the update via app manager, but I do see it if I run apt-get upgrade. You guys think it's safe to upgrade via apt-get?

Very odd, I did this, it seemed to install all of the packages, but didn't flash the new kernel, so I'm still running 4.2008.30-2 with many packages updated to today's release. Anyone have suggestions for me? Very very odd.

Re: Seamless Software Upgrade v4.2008.36-5 is out!

Ugh.. and there's that goddam Rhapsody installer again. It's bad enough that here is no convenient uninstall in the Application Manager, you have to delve into the command line. And this time, apt-get remove rhapsody-installer doesn't get rid of it like it used to. I wish Real goes out business. The difficulty in removing their installer is obnoxious and makes me hate them even more than ever.

Re: Seamless Software Upgrade v4.2008.36-5 is out!

By the way, kernel changes.

Re: Seamless Software Upgrade v4.2008.36-5 is out!

Quote:

Originally Posted by sachin007 (Post 228534)

Does this apply to the n810 boot from internal memory?

Not sure. Updated my post to reflect my use of n800.

Re: Seamless Software Upgrade v4.2008.36-5 is out!

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Originally Posted by danramos (Post 228542)

The difficulty in removing their installer is obnoxious and makes me hate them even more than ever.

Code:

rm /usr/share/applications/hildon/rhapsody.desktop

Re: Seamless Software Upgrade v4.2008.36-5 is out!

Quote:

Originally Posted by sachin007 (Post 228534)

Does this apply to the n810 boot from internal memory?

Thanks for asking this. I was just about to try this with my N810 booting from internal card. Needless to say, I'd be interested in knowing the answer to this too.

Re: welcome to a new update all diablo os2008 users!

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Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 228439)

Right, the tablet typically has to be online for 24 hours straight for auto alerts to work.

There must be more factors at play here than just that one. For instance I never leave my tablets connected permanently, only on-demand (a habit left over from old 770 days :-). I had used the N800 for a while early this morning, then left it at home (I use the N810 on the go, still Chinook).
Tonight I connected it manually to my WLAN and within a few seconds had the flashing icon...

Otherwise the upgrade went swimmingly, although the tablet had seen quite a few packages installed and removed, and has a variety of nonstandard (Chinook & Diablo) repos (the N800 is my sandbox/testbed now). Apart from that it was a fairly vanilla Diablo install with no funky system mods. I just made sure it was well charged and had plenty of free memory. May be just dumb luck though...

Subjectively the results in the browser are a mixed bag. On some sites the improvement is barely perceptible if at all ; on others it is dramatic (Google mail for one, in all modes). Images definitely load faster, and flash (YouTube) is much better. I had fun watching the entire X-Space orbit launch, an historic moment.

Had to disable the contacts/Tableteer home applets, no big deal. SIP still works fine. Haven't tried Maemo Mapper yet.

Now I'm waiting for tomorrow to see if the "empty battery while doing nothing" is really gone this time :-)

Re: Seamless Software Upgrade v4.2008.36-5 is out!

Quote:

Originally Posted by lm2 (Post 228526)

How would updating in flash affect the updates on a dual boot partition? It seems to me that you would have to update from flash first, then from the partition you boot from later.

Re: Seamless Software Upgrade v4.2008.36-5 is out!

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Originally Posted by Laughing Man (Post 228549)

How would updating in flash affect the updates on a dual boot partition? It seems to me that you would have to update from flash first, then from the partition you boot from later.

I don't know *how*, it just did. I updated flash, and then when I booted from the first time from SD, 4.2008.36-5 was automagically there. Nor was there any SSU update available from within app manager.

Re: Seamless Software Upgrade v4.2008.36-5 is out!

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Originally Posted by lm2 (Post 228551)

That is inexplicable. Can some one try to explain that?

Re: Seamless Software Upgrade v4.2008.36-5 is out!

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Originally Posted by lm2 (Post 228551)

Are your flash and sd card partitions same..... Do they have the same installed apps?

I am asking this because my flash partition is pretty basic without any installed apps where as my n810 internal memory partition has all the up to date apps and tweaks

What about you?

Re: Seamless Software Upgrade v4.2008.36-5 is out!

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Originally Posted by lm2 (Post 228551)

Not possible. Now, it might appear that 4.2008.36-5 is installed on a separate partition since the version string isn't taken from the rootfs, but there's no way it's installed unless you're simply confused.

One likely explanation is that o-s-v is not installed on the SD partition, so that's why you're not seeing the update.

Re: Seamless Software Upgrade v4.2008.36-5 is out!

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Originally Posted by sachin007 (Post 228552)

That is inexplicable. Can some one try to explain that?

Well, if the SD boot hasn't caught wind of the update yet, the app manager won't say it's there, and since the current version is stored in the settings MTD partition, the control panel will show the new version.

But it can't actually be updated.

Re: Seamless Software Upgrade v4.2008.36-5 is out!

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Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles (Post 228555)

there's no way it's installed unless you're simply confused.

So if I'm confused, then it's installed? I don't think modus ponens is your friend here....

Look, I don't understand all the other explanations you mention. All I know is that "About Product" in control panel says 4.2008.36-5 when booting from SD, and that no update is showing.

Can you tell me how to update without the update showing up in app manager? Command line? Thanks!

(I'll change original post to say that General Antilles says I'm confused.)

Re: Seamless Software Upgrade v4.2008.36-5 is out! Quite an ordeal!

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I boot from SD and have plenty of free space. Do I dare try it?

What an ordeal :mad:
After growing tired of trying to fix it by hand I finally reflashed rootfs from my backup to the state just before updating, checked space, freed some more by uninstalling gnumeric and abiword, and tryed again with 100 MB free.
I still have got the same error message, and "apt-get -f install" again shows trouble with "tablet-browser-daemon" which has no sources because the update cuts all catalogue.tableteer.nokia.com apt sources from the /etc/apt/sources.list.d/hildon-application-manager.list file
Grrrrr
I have to add them again by hand
And then this

Code:

~# apt-get -f install

Reading package lists... Done

Building dependency tree

Reading state information... Done

The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:

  xrandr xmodmap

Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.

The following extra packages will be installed:

  icd2 ke-recv mce tablet-browser-daemon

The following packages will be upgraded:

  icd2 ke-recv mce tablet-browser-daemon

4 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 103 not upgraded.

86 not fully installed or removed.

Need to get 0B/258kB of archives.

After unpacking 4096B of additional disk space will be used.

Do you want to continue [Y/n]? y

(Reading database ... 18355 files and directories currently installed.)

Preparing to replace icd2 0.50 (using .../archives/icd2_0.56_armel.deb) ...

invoke-rc.d: not a symlink: "/etc/rc2.d/S59icd2"

invoke-rc.d: dangling symlink: "/etc/rc2.d/S59icd2"

dpkg: warning - old pre-removal script returned error exit status 102

dpkg - trying script from the new package instead ...

invoke-rc.d: not a symlink: "/etc/rc2.d/S59icd2"

invoke-rc.d: dangling symlink: "/etc/rc2.d/S59icd2"

dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/icd2_0.56_armel.deb (--unpack):

 subprocess new pre-removal script returned error exit status 102

invoke-rc.d: not a symlink: "/etc/rc2.d/S59icd2"

invoke-rc.d: dangling symlink: "/etc/rc2.d/S59icd2"

dpkg: error while cleaning up:

 subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 102

Preparing to replace ke-recv 2.27-1 (using .../ke-recv_2.28-1_armel.deb) ...

invoke-rc.d: not a symlink: "/etc/rc2.d/S30ke-recv"

invoke-rc.d: dangling symlink: "/etc/rc2.d/S30ke-recv"

dpkg: warning - old pre-removal script returned error exit status 102

dpkg - trying script from the new package instead ...

invoke-rc.d: not a symlink: "/etc/rc2.d/S30ke-recv"

invoke-rc.d: dangling symlink: "/etc/rc2.d/S30ke-recv"

dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/ke-recv_2.28-1_armel.deb (--unpack):

 subprocess new pre-removal script returned error exit status 102

invoke-rc.d: not a symlink: "/etc/rc2.d/S30ke-recv"

invoke-rc.d: dangling symlink: "/etc/rc2.d/S30ke-recv"

dpkg: error while cleaning up:

 subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 102

Preparing to replace mce 1.7.19 (using .../archives/mce_1.7.20_armel.deb) ...

invoke-rc.d: not a symlink: "/etc/rc2.d/S21mce"

invoke-rc.d: dangling symlink: "/etc/rc2.d/S21mce"

dpkg: warning - old pre-removal script returned error exit status 102

dpkg - trying script from the new package instead ...

invoke-rc.d: not a symlink: "/etc/rc2.d/S21mce"

invoke-rc.d: dangling symlink: "/etc/rc2.d/S21mce"

dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/mce_1.7.20_armel.deb (--unpack):

 subprocess new pre-removal script returned error exit status 102

invoke-rc.d: not a symlink: "/etc/rc2.d/S21mce"

invoke-rc.d: dangling symlink: "/etc/rc2.d/S21mce"

dpkg: error while cleaning up:

 subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 102

Preparing to replace tablet-browser-daemon 0.0.11 (using .../tablet-browser-daemon_0.0.12_armel.deb) ...

invoke-rc.d: not a symlink: "/etc/rc2.d/S99tablet-browser-daemon"

invoke-rc.d: dangling symlink: "/etc/rc2.d/S99tablet-browser-daemon"

dpkg: warning - old pre-removal script returned error exit status 102

dpkg - trying script from the new package instead ...

invoke-rc.d: not a symlink: "/etc/rc2.d/S99tablet-browser-daemon"

invoke-rc.d: dangling symlink: "/etc/rc2.d/S99tablet-browser-daemon"

dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/tablet-browser-daemon_0.0.12_armel.deb (--unpack):

 subprocess new pre-removal script returned error exit status 102

invoke-rc.d: not a symlink: "/etc/rc2.d/S99tablet-browser-daemon"

invoke-rc.d: dangling symlink: "/etc/rc2.d/S99tablet-browser-daemon"

dpkg: error while cleaning up:

 subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 102

Errors were encountered while processing:

 /var/cache/apt/archives/icd2_0.56_armel.deb

 /var/cache/apt/archives/ke-recv_2.28-1_armel.deb

 /var/cache/apt/archives/mce_1.7.20_armel.deb

 /var/cache/apt/archives/tablet-browser-daemon_0.0.12_armel.deb

E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)

Grrr, dpkg is completely braindead :mad:
Had to remove the rc links by hand
Then... guess what?

Code:

Configuration file `/etc/mce/mce.ini'

 ==> Modified (by you or by a script) since installation.

 ==> Package distributor has shipped an updated version.

   What would you like to do about it ?  Your options are:

    Y or I  : install the package maintainer's version

    N or O  : keep your currently-installed version

      D     : show the differences between the versions

      Z     : background this process to examine the situation

 The default action is to keep your current version.

*** mce.ini (Y/I/N/O/D/Z) [default=N] ?

And the tablet hangs hard.
Pull out the battery and boot. This time it seems to boot.
"apt-get -f install" again and dpkg to finish the configuration.
Still more errors, and quite a number of things doesn't work, network included.
Another rc.d link (S51hildon-desktop) to remove by hand
And, unbelievable, since I had moved the pdf docs from /home/user/MyDocs/.documents to mmc and linked them there, it refuses to install another two packages!!! Because the user modified its own files!!!!
Finally, it doesn't find some /usr/share/pre-installed/MyDocs/.documents/* files, so it still fails
Fix that, and finally, at last, "apt-get -f install" reaches the end.
Since the switch on/off button still doesn't work, have to reboot by command-line.
And, still, after reboot, all I get is the white screen of death :(
In short, this update is a disaster.
It fails because rc.d symlinks
It fails because user files
It fails because huge size

It is too big, too complex, and too invasive.
It would be much better if it would have been released as several small updates.

Re: welcome to a new update all diablo os2008 users!

Quote:

Originally Posted by fanoush (Post 228511)

OK, get updated version from http://fanoush.wz.cz/maemo/initfs_flasher.tgz
394539 bytes, md5sum f548608282832c73b79d210819bacf23 (sometimes people complain they get older version so please check in case of problems)

I have tried it on my updated N810 and it seems to work :-)

Actually, it is quite easy to do. just follow fanoush infos available at his site. I report the relevant part. If you know what sudo gainroot means and how to fire up the terminal you will have no problem at all.

"To rebuild (and reflash) initfs jffs2 image directly on your tablet, get initfs flashing script here initfs_flasher.tgz (based on MTD utils). Extract tgz archive on your tablet (tar zxvf initfs_flasher.tgz), check README file for details (cd initfs_flasher ; more README.txt) , execute initfs_flash (./initfs_flash) in shell (osso-xterm or via ssh) and follow instructions. Use ssh only if your connection is stable. If it drops while flashing, do not reboot the device but reconnect and retry again with previously prepared initfs image as a parameter (./initfs_flash initfs.bootmenu.jffs2) or better use osso-xterm next time. "

Have fun!

Re: Seamless Software Upgrade v4.2008.36-5 is out!

Quote:

Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles (Post 228545)

Code:

rm /usr/share/applications/hildon/rhapsody.desktop

Thanks, man!

Why couldn't that just be in a nice easy selection for uninstall so that non-CLI people like my sister can easily uninstall it like the tutorial is?

Re: Seamless Software Upgrade v4.2008.36-5 is out!

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Originally Posted by svrkprabhakar (Post 228454)

As far as I know it is only psychological fixes, not many 'mind blowing' or even 'significant' across all the users. :p

Development is aimed on 'N900' but these kind of reliability fixes should not be underestimated. If the browser is snappier (probably more in sync with Mozilla/Gecko development trees like the new javascript engine) then thats very welcome IMO. Think of it this way: would you rather have slower browsing speed for 6 months? I wouldn't.

Also new maemo logo in start page MicroB.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ARJWright (Post 228512)

Seemless updates shouldn't have these kinda issues should they?

My update went fine; but I made very little modifications since my last reflash. 2 advices: 1) If you don't know what a modification did, learn what it does. 2) Write down your modifications (esp in case of reflash).

It might also be good for N810WME because the Xohm deal might invite more casual/normal users to the Maemo platform. Seems they added WiMAX support in this kernel.

Thanks Texrat! :D

Re: Seamless Software Upgrade v4.2008.36-5 is out!

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Originally Posted by danramos (Post 228566)

Why couldn't that just be in a nice easy selection for uninstall so that non-CLI people like my sister can easily uninstall it like the tutorial is?

Because Rhapsody is about taking your money, not about leaving you alone?

Maybe someone should develop a TweakUI-ish program (and put it in extras) that helps you do the 100 most common shell and gconf tweaks...

Re: Seamless Software Upgrade v4.2008.36-5 is out!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Benson (Post 228568)

That.. is a GREAT idea. My biggest problem with the idea of dropping to the CLI to remove their crap is that it also assumes I can get root. I REALLY don't want to have to FIRST get my sister to set herself up to have root.. THEN also give her the rm.. and in all of this, hope that she (or any of my other non-tech friends with an N800--of which there are several) does not mess this up or inadvertently leave open any security holes in the process.

Re: Seamless Software Upgrade v4.2008.36-5 is out!

Quote:

Originally Posted by ARJWright (Post 228512)

Seemless updates shouldn't have these kinda issues should they?

well the interaction between third party apps (that may or may not bump the version of some lib or other under the hood) can have "interesting" side effects...

im guessing this is the kind of issues a certain fruit wants to avoid...

Re: Seamless Software Upgrade v4.2008.36-5 is out!

I'm one of the unlucky, the ones with the infinitely rebooting N800 following an update.

I also tried flashing manually using flasher 3.0 for amd64 Linux. No joy! :eek: My tablet displayed the little USB trident and flasher printed some messages but the reflash didn't take. I'm still stuck with an N800 that won't boot.

Messages below for those who care.

Quote:

talmage@scarlet:~/Desktop/ITOS-2008$ sudo ./flasher-3.0.amd64 ./RX-34_DIABLO_4.2008.23-14_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin -f -R
flasher v0.8.1 (Jan 5 2007)

Suitable USB device not found, waiting
USB device found found at bus 002, device address 030
Found device RX-34, hardware revision 1302
NOLO version 1.1.16
Version of 'sw-release': <no version>

Re: Seamless Software Upgrade v4.2008.36-5 is out!

Quote:

Originally Posted by danramos (Post 228566)

Why couldn't that just be in a nice easy selection for uninstall so that non-CLI people like my sister can easily uninstall it like the tutorial is?

It's an issue in the way current updates are implemented with the packaging system. See bug #3602 for some background.

Re: Seamless Software Upgrade v4.2008.36-5 is out!

Edit: Ignore me; I hadn't realized your command wrapped. (It won't do that if you use [code] tags!) The General got it right, below.

Re: Seamless Software Upgrade v4.2008.36-5 is out!

Quote:

Originally Posted by ARJWright (Post 228512)

Seemless updates shouldn't have these kinda issues should they?

Most of the issues in this thread seem to be users who have:

Changed the way the X server works (sliderotate)
Installed a new kernel or initfs
Are booting from SD card
Have installed powermenu
...

These things change the way the tablet works. Nokia aren't going to be able to test and support these things. It's up to the people who package these add-ons to find a way of safely reverting back to the previous behaviour if they find the world they're inhabiting gone wrong. Or to disable auto-update. Or to better inform their users.

Re: Seamless Software Upgrade v4.2008.36-5 is out!

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Originally Posted by talmage (Post 228573)

My tablet displayed the little USB trident and flasher printed some messages but the reflash didn't take. I'm still stuck with an N800 that won't boot.

It'd help a lot of if you used the correct flasher command.

Code:

sudo ./flasher-3.0.amd64 -F ./RX-34_DIABLO_4.2008.23-14_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin -f -R

Re: Seamless Software Upgrade v4.2008.36-5 is out!

Quote:

Originally Posted by danramos (Post 228571)

Alternatively, just install Rhapsody then uninstall it.

Re: welcome to a new update all diablo os2008 users!

Quote:

Originally Posted by rok (Post 228391)

No problems so far!
The browser is really fast!

Was Flash in fullscreen (youtube) possible before? I can't remember.

Yes it did. But it was far more choppier.

Re: Seamless Software Upgrade v4.2008.36-5 is out! Quite an ordeal!

Quote:

Originally Posted by maacruz (Post 228560)

In short, this update is a disaster.
It fails because rc.d symlinks
It fails because user files
It fails because huge size

It is too big, too complex, and too invasive.
It would be much better if it would have been released as several small updates.

From the looks of it, I had most of the same issues as you on my sd-boot, but I just removed the symlinks, found the installation candidates in /var/cache/apt/archives/ apt-get -f install'ed and re-added the symlinks, and everything went smoothly and seems fine now.
Removing the symlinks and rebooting without readding them = not such a good idea since mce, tablet-browser-daemon etc are quite important.