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qole 2009-06-16 17:47

Re: N900 compared to iPhone v3, Palm Pre, N97
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by attila77 (Post 297214)
...seldom does fitting tractor tyres on a sportscar give good results.

What? Sure, it's great. Always.

http://www.paul-davis.com/vehicles/miata/4wd.jpg

http://www.paul-davis.com/vehicles/miata/miata1bz.jpg

http://www.paul-davis.com/vehicles/miata/white4x4.jpg

sjgadsby 2009-06-16 17:52

Re: N900 compared to iPhone v3, Palm Pre, N97
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qole (Post 297221)
Sure, it's great.

And Smart:
http://craziestgadgets.com/wp-conten...ster-truck.jpg

Hotzenplotz 2009-06-16 18:22

Re: N900 compared to iPhone v3, Palm Pre, N97
 
The new n900 looks almost perfect. but im not shure if would buy, because the 3.5" display is quite small compared to the 4.1" of mey n810..... why did they mad the display smaller why, why, why??

keesj 2009-06-17 12:30

Re: N900 compared to iPhone v3, Palm Pre, N97
 
After seeing the cool nokia n97 ads
http://thenokiablog.com/2009/06/12/t...nokia-n97-ads/

I have no problem seeing how the N900 can be a great success. They are going to be pretty similar if you ask me... only the N900 is much much cooler!

anthony_barker 2009-06-17 14:04

Re: N900 compared to iPhone v3, Palm Pre, N97
 
Feature ------------------ HTC Magic/Sapphire
1. Processor -------------- ARMv6 (Same as N97) Qualcomm SM7201A
2. RAM memory ----------- 198 MB
3. 3D & OpenGL ----------- Y (1.0 I think)
4. free Office -- (QuickOffice (came with rogers version), So so PDF reader
5. many free apps --------- Y
6. good internet brs ----- Webkit
7. Full Java ------------------ Java (Google's version)
8. Full Flash ----------------- End of year
9. Easy to program --------- Y
10. Resolution ------------ 480x320
11. Command line ----------- Y (if you root), SSH client available
12. Video recording -------- 800x480 (3.2 Mpl)
13. Nice UI --------------------- Y
14. solid OS --------------- Linux 2.6.4
15. Community --------------- 3/4*
16. Virtual Machines --------- Y
17. Remote connection ------ Y
18. Drivers ---------------- ?, Linux drivers
19. No application signing --- Y?
20. Camera -------------------- 3.2 MP
21. AppStore ----------------- android store
22. Dev Kits ---- C Java WebKit
23. Display --------------------- 3.2"
24. Multi-touch ----------------- Y * (kind of)
25. Capacitive display -------- Y
26. VoIP/Skype ---------------- Y/N - not wirelessly unless you root
27. Video call / Front Cam -- N

I terms of hack-ability it seems like the ranking is

Nokia Maemo(with slimmed down X.org), Pre (directfb - framebuffer driver), Android (java rendering), Apple (I don't know about Symbian).

I have to hand it to Palm - their approach of porting webkit to run in directfb is a nice Idea.

Personally I think the future of app development on these phones is simply to use HTML 5

Bundyo 2009-06-17 14:11

Re: N900 compared to iPhone v3, Palm Pre, N97
 
AFAIK WebKit on Adnroid is the original C++ one (no java there except for the interface) and the whole Android runs on the framebuffer.

javispedro 2009-06-17 14:15

Re: N900 compared to iPhone v3, Palm Pre, N97
 
Right now I don't know which platform's going to "win" (if there's going to be a winner), but I think Android is gaining momentum too fast and may put itself at a great distance from other Linux-based operating systems (like beloved Maemo).

Which is a pity, since Maemo is most hackable. But even most geeks I know don't seem to mind/know that.

Seems like "marketing" has reduced the available option set to the general public to "iPhone" (the closed one) and "Android" (the open one) -- even if they're both closed. Rest of choices have ceased to be.

ARJWright 2009-06-17 15:00

Re: N900 compared to iPhone v3, Palm Pre, N97
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by anthony_barker (Post 297468)
Personally I think the future of app development on these phones is simply to use HTML 5

I agree; and I think that Google, Opera, and to some degree Nokia, agrees with you in this point as well.

gerstavros 2009-06-17 22:27

Re: N900 compared to iPhone v3, Palm Pre, N97
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by javispedro (Post 297470)
[...]Seems like "marketing" has reduced the available option set to the general public to "iPhone" (the closed one) and "Android" (the open one) -- even if they're both closed. Rest of choices have ceased to be.

If Nokia advertise N900 well, like 5800, it would be fine. But they won't do it...

hordeman 2009-06-17 22:59

Re: N900 compared to iPhone v3, Palm Pre, N97
 
woah. woah. woah. why hasn't the G1 been merged into the initial comparison? :)

kanishou 2009-06-17 23:25

Re: N900 compared to iPhone v3, Palm Pre, N97
 
I see it like this:

Android is the Open Source alternative to Windows Mobile, a generic OS you can just slap on any device for a decent UI and many applications. Symbian ranges in this class as well.

Maemo is (going to be) the Open Source alternative to the iPhone OS or Web OS, a system that is highly tailored towards a specific range of high-end devices. It may be less ubiquitous (now and in the future), but is more likely to provide a pleasant and unique user experience.

hordeman 2009-06-18 05:00

Re: N900 compared to iPhone v3, Palm Pre, N97
 
Dunno. I've got the G1 and N800. Both run linux. Both have root access. One has a keyboard. The other one doesn't. One does things better than the other and vice versa. So, I see the G1 for more than the Android OS.

ARJWright 2009-07-02 03:39

Re: N900 compared to iPhone v3, Palm Pre, N97
 
Just a thought as I'm on the N97 writing this, I think that the next tablet will be a considerable step up in terms of quality. The difference between this and the n810 next to me right now is pretty amazing. And I'm more convinced that this was a hardware reference design for a maemo device more than a s60 one. Some of the features are just too tablet-like.

The n97 and n900 will be a tough compairson that will be very interesting.

GeraldKo 2009-07-02 04:32

Re: N900 compared to iPhone v3, Palm Pre, N97
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ARJWright (Post 301558)
The difference between the [N97] and the n810 next to me right now is pretty amazing.

Want to elaborate?

ARJWright 2009-07-02 04:47

Re: N900 compared to iPhone v3, Palm Pre, N97
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GeraldKo (Post 301567)
Want to elaborate?

From a hardware perspective, its like two different companies made them. The feel of the slider and even the keyboard are better. The n810 has better travel with the keys but because its a bigger device, there'smmore finger stretching. The browser is much improved and if not for a few silly decsions with ui, it would be a lot better. Lastly, battery life is pretty sick on the n97. This thing lasts a long time.

I'll have to hold out a bit longer for more indepth compairsons since i've got other phones i'm compairing this to and i don't yet have an n97 of my own. But this is indeed encouraging both for future tablets and nokia devices in general.

Architengi 2009-09-14 09:16

Re: N900 compared to iPhone v3, Palm Pre, N97
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by anthony_barker (Post 297468)
Feature ------------------ HTC Magic/Sapphire
1. Processor -------------- ARMv6 (Same as N97) Qualcomm SM7201A
2. RAM memory ----------- 198 MB
3. 3D & OpenGL ----------- Y (1.0 I think)
4. free Office -- (QuickOffice (came with rogers version), So so PDF reader
5. many free apps --------- Y
6. good internet brs ----- Webkit
7. Full Java ------------------ Java (Google's version)
8. Full Flash ----------------- End of year
9. Easy to program --------- Y
10. Resolution ------------ 480x320
11. Command line ----------- Y (if you root), SSH client available
12. Video recording -------- 800x480 (3.2 Mpl)
13. Nice UI --------------------- Y
14. solid OS --------------- Linux 2.6.4
15. Community --------------- 3/4*
16. Virtual Machines --------- Y
17. Remote connection ------ Y
18. Drivers ---------------- ?, Linux drivers
19. No application signing --- Y?
20. Camera -------------------- 3.2 MP
21. AppStore ----------------- android store
22. Dev Kits ---- C Java WebKit
23. Display --------------------- 3.2"
24. Multi-touch ----------------- Y * (kind of)
25. Capacitive display -------- Y
26. VoIP/Skype ---------------- Y/N - not wirelessly unless you root
27. Video call / Front Cam -- N

I terms of hack-ability it seems like the ranking is

Nokia Maemo(with slimmed down X.org), Pre (directfb - framebuffer driver), Android (java rendering), Apple (I don't know about Symbian).

I have to hand it to Palm - their approach of porting webkit to run in directfb is a nice Idea.

Personally I think the future of app development on these phones is simply to use HTML 5


This Android HTC Magic is interested to be compared with the Android device Motorola Cliq. The same processor/memory?


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