Re: Theme - Fremantle for Diablo
 

I think it's not that hard to display app menu entries in the status bar. With python you're able to display an icon which opens a menu but now I need to find out how to read the app menu structure.

Re: Theme - Fremantle for Diablo
 

Yes, I thought about re-writing application menu, and then create statusbar applet for that, but now I don't have time...

Re: Theme - Fremantle for Diablo
 

now I use personal launcher without labels - only big table of icons (like iphone maybe).

Re: Theme - Fremantle for Diablo
 

Using the latest (2.2) and it's perfect. Textboxes are actually black text on almost black so you can see if the box is empty. My fix to it atm is to use the onscreen thumboard, which lets you see the text and edit it.

Re: Theme - Fremantle for Diablo
 

I've Added a window switcher button to the upper left corner. When you click on it you switch to the next window. All I had to do is a few changes to this file:
/usr/share/themes/FreDiablo/matchbox/theme.xml

Attached is the modified file (ending with .txt so it can be uploaded). Do make a backup of the existing file before you replace it.

Re: Theme - Fremantle for Diablo
 

really nice job, giladmttw. brilliant !

Re: Theme - Fremantle for Diablo
 

can it be compiled in the next version of the theme (wich I personally love, and have no issues-because i do not use any webkit maybe xD)

because I haven't been managed to sobstitute the file with the new one...
so I haven't tested nor seen it in action, but maybe any of you, can include it in a new version of the theme maybe!!!

thx a lot for this hard work!! ^___^

Re: Theme - Fremantle for Diablo
 

Thank you Se7en, can you add that to your theme ?
Also you need to change the pixmap to somthing with 100 width.
Can you also change the icon for personal-menu ? we need somthing small and orange to blend well in the status bar. it's in
/usr/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/hildon/personal-menu.png

Re: Theme - Fremantle for Diablo
 

I want to, buy I prefer to ask the rest of the users:
what do you prefer ? with or without next-window button ?

about personal menu - I can do it technically, but It's not fair and acceptable to change other package files. I'm afraid I can't distribute a deb file that touch this file...sorry

Re: Theme - Fremantle for Diablo
 

I might be interessed in the next window hack;
maybe you can provide a version with and without next windows!!

Re: Theme - Fremantle for Diablo
 

I can, but I hate forks: every change should be updated twice. and then comes another fork (narrow/wide scrollbars for example), and you get 4 versions to maintain.

Re: Theme - Fremantle for Diablo
 

I understand, But, at least for me, it's important to have a software method to multitask (now you can only via home button), so, I think that it's important to have or the minimize/next windows button, or a software shortcut to the task-menu; do you agree with me?

Re: Theme - Fremantle for Diablo
 

joking with the statusbar.conf, I've managed to have the main-menu, on the statusbar (instead of personal menu);
it's sufficent to write:

[/usr/share/applications/hildon-navigator/applications-menu.desktop]
X-Load=true

instead of the one with personal menu

but have some problem:

1-when you touch the icon, the first application in the 1st voice of the menu, is accidentally clicked (in my case, the mediaplayer)

2-I do not know why, sometimes hildon-desktop crashes if I go from an app, directly to the desktop
(fixed!!! it was the switcher-menu that I was testing in the status bar, that crashes because If I open with the home button, it try to open 2 times the same menu...so crashes)
any suggestion??


Edit: so the problem is only in the accidental clicking (but is very annoyng..)

Re: Theme - Fremantle for Diablo
 

I've tried any change possible with statusbar.conf, you can add any .desktop you want there. The best option is personal-menu. I'm guessing your first problem is because the menu is defined as "pressonly", that is, you touch it and it immediately opens up so you can drag your finger to your selection, raising your finger than signals a click. All launchers are like that except one - personal-menu, the recommended choice for Frediablo users :)
The fix for it is to rearrange the menu so that no application sits under your finger when it is launched.
You can also put the home menu in the status bar:
[/usr/share/applications/hildon-navigator/switcher-menu.desktop]
X-Load=true
but then you can't use the home key, because it will open the menu in the status bar and the one in the left panel together, so they then close each other :)))
The next button is the best, I wouldn't have it any other way now. I'm using the "close" pixmap for it:

Re: Theme - Fremantle for Diablo
 

yeah, I see xD

By the way, Is the "next" button, simply the "minimize" button??

or is another one??

(sorry but didn't managed to test it sorry :( )

Re: Theme - Fremantle for Diablo
 

The "next" button is like pressing ALT-TAB in a desktop keyboard. It snaps immediately to the next open window. When there is only one window open it is not shown, and you get blank black square. You can still add a minimize button if you want. You can also set a button "prev" to go to the previous window.
The original matchbox window manager had an option for "menu", clicking that button gives a list of open windows, like the home-key menu. Nokia decided to remove that for an application specific menu, and instead add a left panel with three app launchers, two task switchers and a hardwere button for taskswitching too !

I really want you try this button, but I'm afraid that if you don't how to do it you might damage your system. Unlike the statusbar.conf where there is a fallback file, if there is an error in theme.xml you end up with a reboot loop.

Re: Theme - Fremantle for Diablo
 

ok understood;
my intention is to find a method to have a softwae button to wake up the switcher-menu without have to conflict with the home key!!!

because now I'm starting to fit in the utilization without the minimize key (wich is the only thing that I miss in this theme) but It's a bit annoyng to use continuosly the home-key also only to swith between 2 apps...

for now there is only advanced-power-monitor that have the option "hardware key" where you simulate a home press ( or a long one) but it's in a bad posizion and have to clic 3 trimes before I can acces to the home menu (click icon, click menu, click botton, then menu pops up)

is there a method to "emulate" the hardware key pressing?

Re: Theme - Fremantle for Diablo
 

You can issue a "next window" in personal-menu, add this command:
matchbox-remote -next

Re: Theme - Fremantle for Diablo
 

thx a lot, it works!

noew,curiosity, wghre can i see those commands?
if i want other action ofv matchbox, where an i see what commands are avaiable?

thx

Re: Theme - Fremantle for Diablo
 

try in xterm:
matchbox-remote -help

Re: Theme - Fremantle for Diablo
 

thank you!!!
It's the usefullness made command xD xD

(you know, I'm learning a lot fro the time I bought my n800 ^___^)

Re: Theme - Fremantle for Diablo
 

I'm learning new things here all the time. Se7en showed me the light with is hacks, so I researched the matchbox docs a bit and found this. Unfortunately the docs are old and some things were changed in Maemo. What I would like to have now is change the home key to "next" and kill the left panel, save some RAM. Another thing that bothers me is the window borders, which I would like to remove. Why do we even have window borders ???
matchbox can only show one window at a time anyway ???

Re: Theme - Fremantle for Diablo
 

you can remove the left bar by deleting it's section from desktop.conf. I don't like it because then the windows menu doesn't appear on left side.
of course, be careful with changes in the layout, you can easily crash the desktop and may not be able to boot, and you will have to reflash.

seems funny compares to what happend to me:
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=446485
:(

Re: Theme - Fremantle for Diablo
 

I boot from SD. When I tried somthing in theme.xml and got a reboot loop, I simply took the card out, mouted it on a linux pc and reverted to the old file. Takes less than minute.
Now I remember that I also got a reboot loop when trying to define tasknavigator as panel_expandable instead of panel_box.
I also found that the status bar is hardcoded to have a maximum of seven applets in one panel, no matter how wide you make it.

Re: Theme - Fremantle for Diablo
 

put the status bar on the left side and the window menu will open on the left:


<!-- Main windows title bar. You need to define its height -->
<frame id="main" height="50">

<layer x="0" y="0" w="800" h="50" type="pixmap" pixmap="applicationtopbararea"/>

<layer x="290" y="5" w="410" h="50" type="label" color="osso-TitleTextColor" justify="left" font="osso-TitleFont" />

<!-- Define the area that launches application menu -->

<button x="290" y="0" w="410" h="50" action="custom" options="inputonly,pressonly" />

<!-- Define the status bar applet panel -->

<panel x="0" y="0" w="280" h="50" />

<!-- Define minimize and close buttons -->
<!--
<button x="0" y="0" w="100" h="50" action="next" >
<active pixmap="titlebarclosebuttonpressed"/>
<inactive pixmap="titlebarclosebutton"/>
</button>
-->
<button x="-100" y="0" w="100" h="50" action="close" >
<active pixmap="titlebarclosebuttonpressed" />
<inactive pixmap="titlebarclosebutton"/>
</button>

Re: Theme - Fremantle for Diablo
 

wich file I have to modify to apply this???

Re: Theme - Fremantle for Diablo
 

edit this as root:
/usr/share/themes/FreDiablo/matchbox/theme.xml

I tried it but went back to the next window button, much faster than waiting for the menu to open.

Re: Theme - Fremantle for Diablo
 

This theme is great for vertical rotation :)

Re: Theme - Fremantle for Diablo
 

wow didn't think to that ^_^ it may be a very nice addict!!!
btw, I'm using the twek but not the theme (To change sometimes ^,^ now using echoWB with excellent resulting!!-the stylus is in it's hole except for terminal work!)
and without personal-menu, but with the original menu in the statusbar

The frediablo theme, is very very beautiful ( I like dark themes) but the problem with the text boxes, is very annoyng!

Re: Theme - Fremantle for Diablo
 

My version (attached)

Re: Theme - Fremantle for Diablo
 

You get menu working? If so if you can send me your source I can repackage it for easy install for everyone.

Re: Theme - Fremantle for Diablo
 

Andrew, giladmttw posted the solution ... all we need is set a correct value for
<panel x="0" y="0" w="280" h="50" />

For me w="250" works for 6 icons on status_bar ... menu works

Re: [Theme] Fremantle for Diablo
 

Hey Andrew,

Sorry I haven't been around for a bit. New job, constantly commuting and what not...Did you ever release a blue version of your Freemantle for Diablo theme?

Re: [Theme] Fremantle for Diablo
 

The download link for this theme no longer works.

Re: [Theme] Fremantle for Diablo
 

Has there been any update to this theme hack>?

Re: Theme - Fremantle for Diablo
 

Hey Gilad!

If I delete the following from /home/user/.osso/hildon-desktop/desktop.conf
and then changed /usr/share/themes/NuvoClear2/matchbox/theme.xml
to your numbers, will that be safe for me to try?

I want to experiment with this but I'd really hate to goose my tablet by making a silly mistake.

Also, is there any type of safety check that can be done before seeing the new layout changes when trying out different numbers? Like do some of these certain variables have to add up to a specific number or else the tablet will be stuck in an endless reboot?

Hope I made sense. :)

Re: Theme - Fremantle for Diablo
 

Sorry for the late response, just saw your post.
There is no way to preview a faulty theme. it will crash the desktop again and again. I boot from SD so it's easy to take the card out, mount on linux, and change back.
I tried the canges you asked. It is safe but doesn't look good. nuvoclear2 has titlebar made for status bar in it's regular place, and the pixmap for the close button is the regular, small size.
The 'next' button is gone :(

Re: [Theme] Fremantle for Diablo
 

Hey People!

How can I make the engine/application switcher disappear? Like some screenshots around maemo.org ???

And is there a way to have at least 2 Different desktops on N810?

Thanks for all

Re: [Theme] Fremantle for Diablo
 

can anyone say... is this theme for n900 or for N800 can we use this theme for n900 n hav anyone tried it or not ...?? pls leave ur feedback...

thanks