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I was very happy with my n800, I didn't get the n810 as it wasn't enough of a step up and then of course the rumours of the n900 began but it wasn't what I wanted

Both of the O2 shops in Cambridge (UK) have them on demo; it's a bit pricey as yet (off contract*), early adopter punishment applies, but I shall try and pop by to get some first impressions.

So, it might be somewhat sizeable but at least it's thin, so its jacket-pocket sized maybe or cargo-pants sized?

* If it was on Voda, and an on-contract price was not unreasonable, I might consider it but given O2's network is quite poor, I wouldn't sign up with them for even a year let alone two.

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ah yes, those. i sometimes wonder when a bag becomes a "man bag".

or maybe i am just bored and feel like being a heckler.

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http://www.o2.co.uk/dellstreak?cm_mm...l+streak_exact

Its out in the UK now.

Keep an eye out for sonys qwerty version...

http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsso...-news-1712.php

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I popped into Carphone Warehouse in the Old Kent Road on Saturday. They had a Streak in stock.

Basically I thought it was beautiful. It is no thicker than my iPhone. The screen is 5” so naturally it is going to seem big in relation to mobile phones, my impression was that it was about as small overall as a 5” device is ever going to be. There is very little top and bottom bezel and a narrow one each side for various buttons.

It is pocketable in the sense that an N800 is pocketable. And that was fine for me. This is exactly what I hoped that tablets would become. So kudos to Dell. I understand that Michael Dell has been using one himself for several months so we have the head of the company taking an active interest in its development.

Many people seem concerned over how we look to others when using it as a phone. Well that is their problem and not something that even enters my equation.

Would I have one? Definitely. I am held back by the fact that my iPhone contract has 13 months to run so carrying a double cost is inhibiting. Anyway the version of Android is only 1.6 and I am not going to spend money on an ‘old’ version of the os and my experience with these things tells me not to rely too much on the hope of upgrades and ongoing improvements. So each way I need to wait for a while.

However were I in the position of this time last year when I needed a new phone then I would have the Streak in an instant over the iPhone.

Certainly the deal of no deposit and a £35 per month Voice and Unlimited Data contract makes it close to irresistible.

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Its 220g in case that factors in for anyone.

I think £429 entry price is a relative bargain though, considering what I was happy to pay for my Touch Pro2.

Totally agree with this but most people will only learn the hard way.

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i think dell is more likely to provide updates then the rest, as they are clearly interested in getting it out there given their willingness to sell it unlocked.

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Correct but then the N800 is 206g so the Streak is only 14g i.e. a letter (incl envelope), heavier. Which I think is remarkable all things considered.

I see it that way too. I am close to being tempted to buy one for cash and use my iPhone SIM when needs be.

I agree with that but then I gave nokia the benefit of the doubt once.

Yes Dell are serious, they also have 7" and 10" versions in the pipeline. So I feel I am being unduly cynical in doubting that Froyo 2.2 may not happen. I think I need to give myself reasons to keep my credit card locked away.

My own experience with Dell and it's high end products (XPS M2010) is excellent.

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the major problem so far with updates have been the growing storage issue. Thats what have bitten the G1 and other early phones.

then comes the issue of some phones being carrier ordered, more or less (motorola droid being basically ordered by verizon for instance, but motorola being smart enough to also make a UMTS version, milestone).

then there is HTC, and thats a company i suspect prefers to release new hardware rather then update old. Especially stuff more or less custom made for specific third parties.

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review is up on engadget http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/06/dell-streak-review/

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Thanks for the link, the review nailed the dimensions as reaching the "pocketable size limit". It fits jeans pockets too.

For comarison here are some photos next to an iPhone
http://www.engadget.com/photos/dell-...ds-on/#2699147

"the red version's coming in two weeks' time"

"Rumor has it that O2's already road-testing a 2.x upgrade for next month, so let's keep our fingers crossed there'll be some Froyo in that cupboard."

If that happens I am in trouble. I wonder what I would get for a year old 3GS?

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there's no way i'd believe those rumors!

Re: Dell Releases What n900 Should Have Been (Dell Streak)
 

hope that 2.x testing also involves getting a non-3G version out that have marketplace access, as it should be possible, at least in theory, after google made phone capability optional for compatibility.

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You could be right, Dell says (25th May 2010) "2.2 Froyo later this year"
http://en.community.dell.com/dell-bl...id-tablet.aspx

Or maybe it has decided to pull it finger out and do it sooner?

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hmmm 1ghz snapdragon with no dedicated GPU.......................

ill stick with the n900

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Enjoy the OVI goodness in all its GPU glory

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I'm not sure what to make of this comment.

What does Ovi have to do with the GPU? Isn't that an OS level integration?

Re: Dell Releases What n900 Should Have Been (Dell Streak)
 

Clearly he's being sarcastic.

Re: Dell Releases What n900 Should Have Been (Dell Streak)
 

Well color me surprised and call me Batman. I didn't even think of that - damn I feel dumb.

No sarcasm. I really didn't think he was being sarcastic. Slooooow day for me.

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lol lol....

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Kinglsley thanks for the pics, didn't think the size difference would be that big. It's massive compared to the n900.

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@bxbomber - no problem :)

one more thing.. i realy can't believe they didn't put a micro usb on there.. even if it was just for charging or file transfer

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Had a play with it today...
*Its like a big slab of acryllic as someone said
*Decent build quality
*''Hardware buttons'' are flush with the screen
*Its heavy to hold and looks stupid next to your ear... think of a bigger version of the TG01
*I found the system OS unresponsive and sluggish... unlike the iphone
*The keyboard didn't vibrate but maybe it wasn't enabled. Decent typing speeds. One error or so per two lines.

Overall: It didn't scream ''Buy me'' although I probably will at some point. I doubt it will even overtake sales of the Palm Pre despite its budget price due to its size.

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That is not good.

I didn’t get to be that detailed in my inspection. Basically I will probably only get it when Froyo is available and I assume that by then it will be fully optimised. In fact I insist on it being optimised, the beauty of the iPhone experience is Apple has optimised the crap out of it and I will never accept anything less than that in future. Even if it means staying with Apple. It really is that important.

So I am counting on Dell coming through here.

More videos with a Dell executive demonstrating and talking about the concept and intended use scenarios. Interesting to see it confirmed that Dell deliberately pushed the screen size to the pocketable limit.
http://mashable.com/2010/06/03/dell-streak-priced/

While the new iPhone 4 is breathtaking, this is where my interest lies.

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if your happy with apple, stay with apple.

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I want to see what difference the pixel count really makes when viewing webpages, Remote Desktop and reading ebook's. I have good eyesight but I don't want to scroll or pan. Thats a big factor in screen size for me!

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It's a personal preference, but personally I prefer screens that doesn't have fingers in front of them. It does awful things to brightness and contrast.

Also, smudge marks, ewwww. If anything, I'd make the N900 less finger friendly.

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I am not a fanboy for any marque, I will buy the best hardware specified and software supported device available that suits my purposes and requirements - irrespective of who makes it.

No I am not at all happy with the Apple restrictive locked down mindset though Jailbreak goes a long way in dealing with that.

There are some side by side photos of the iPhone 4 and the 3G which shows the differences very clearly. Watch the video here at the segment where the same web page text is compared. The difference is significant.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/i...xamined-video/

Again Apple has set the bar and defined the optimum pixel density of 326 pixel per inch resolution. The iPhone 3GS is 163 ppi.

Likewise I want to see that ppi in the display of any future device that I buy. The trouble is that pixel density is not always included in a Spec Sheet so it is hard to get that information. By declaring it openly as a badge of pride Apple has done us all a favour again. Other manufactuers will be pressured into doing the same and will have to meet the standard if they fall short.

One reason why I want a large 5" screen is so text will be easier to read by being bigger. But high pixel density achieves that same readability result on a smaller screen.

So now i want both, a 5" screen and high ppi.

Re: Dell Releases What n900 Should Have Been (Dell Streak)
 

well the iphone was 320 or something, so yes there will be a big difference. compare it to the n900 or some of the high end ones from htc and the difference will not be that great.

Re: Dell Releases What n900 Should Have Been (Dell Streak)
 

who says that's the optimum pixel density? n900 is 266 anyway.. iphone always had a very low res screen

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Actually that is the best arguement that I have seen for having a physical keyboard.

I agree, when I saw my first iPhone, a friends 3G last year, I was horrified by the state of the oily smudge marks on the screen. I was prepared for the same when I got a 3GS a few weeks later.

But that doesn't seem to be an issue anymore. Apple now use an oleophobic layer which does a very effective job.

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Anyway, this is a Dell thread, not an Iphone thread.

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I agree! back to the dell.. i heard somewhere there was a clip on speaker dock.. and those funky dell original back panels

Re: Dell Releases What n900 Should Have Been (Dell Streak)
 

I heard there was a USB and TV out dock like there was for the Archos Android.

Google "iphone Retina Display" if you want to know more about iphone's res. btw

Re: Dell Releases What n900 Should Have Been (Dell Streak)
 

Yeah i've seen that too, and a car dock also.. i'm sure there were some pictures out there..
http://blog.laptopmag.com/take-that-...reak-hdmi-dock

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Steve Jobs in his keynote speech today. He said that the human eye has difficulty in discerning improvements over 300 ppi at normal reading distances from the screen.

Do you take exception to that?

There is a table here of the pixel density of various devices.
http://www.tested.com/news/why-pixel...esolution/371/

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I take exception to everything that happens in the reality distortion field, and anything that has nothing to do with the Dell product this thread is about.

Re: Dell Releases What n900 Should Have Been (Dell Streak)
 

engadget had a shot of the set, iirc. seemed like a strong indication that dell was in this for the long haul.

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yeah here you go
http://www.engadget.com/photos/dell-...-leak/#2915999
http://www.engadget.com/photos/dell-...-leak/#2915998
I quite like kaleidoscope in black.. or maybe red to match my xpsm1330..

Re: Dell Releases What n900 Should Have Been (Dell Streak)
 

Quite right, sorry for the diversion but it did serve to raise the issue of pixel density, which is important and which is generally omitted in manufacturers specifications.

Dell only says that the Streak has 'high pixel density' but don't say what the figure actually is. Which again is a point that I was making.

Does anybody know what it is?

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i would not mind a wifi-only carbon.