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murlan9 2009-11-25 15:52

Re: Mobile Phones Direct N900 Customers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stayloa (Post 391144)
Head office vs. one store = same difference. Still has to be re-sent once in the UK, which explains part of the delay.

Where would MPD be getting them if it wasn't directly through Nokia though? They've only been out a short while, and as an official Nokia reseller in the UK, it would make sense that they came from Nokia, seeing as no-one else has them yet... I'm not saying you're wrong btw, just want more info! Otherwise the 27th/28th seems unlikely if they have to go from Nokia to someone else to the head office to the webshop store to us... Maybe next year would be more likely?!

haha some one has no patience and doesnt listen very well.

Nokia will send them to MPD that will before the 27/28. Nokia stores will have them before the 27/28 probably two three days before. On the 27/28th they will start selling them and sending them to customers therefore aslong as the timetable i know and have been told is right you will have them by the 29/30th.



Also if you cant get through to the webshop hang up and dail again every twenty seconds its is a store and webshop in one so they are busy with lots of calls and put calls on silent f they cant get to it so do the twenty second rule and you will get through otherwise you will be just a flashing phone with an impatient customer on the otherside asking the same questions thousands of other people apart from at Nokia Head office dont know the answer too.

edgedemon 2009-11-25 15:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by murlan9 (Post 391668)
haha some one has no patience and doesnt listen very well.

Nokia will send them to MPD that will before the 27/28. Nokia stores will have them before the 27/28 probably two three days before. On the 27/28th they will start selling them and sending them to customers therefore aslong as the timetable i know and have been told is right you will have them by the 29/30th.



Also if you cant get through to the webshop hang up and dail again every twenty seconds its is a store and webshop in one so they are busy with lots of calls and put calls on silent f they cant get to it so do the twenty second rule and you will get through otherwise you will be just a flashing phone with an impatient customer on the otherside asking the same questions thousands of other people apart from at Nokia Head office dont know the answer too.

From what you are saying then we should get the phones BEFORE the MPD stated date of 3rd Dec?????

murlan9 2009-11-25 15:57

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Originally Posted by edgedemon (Post 391679)
From what you are saying then we should get the phones BEFORE the MPD stated date of 3rd Dec?????

You may be lucky it just depends where you are on the list and the exact date they come out. Nokia stores are quoted 27/28th but that could change by a few days but, i genuenly think you will you have to remember if they release it on a friday and saturday you wont get it sent out till the monday because of the post.

jackabite 2009-11-25 16:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ninjaboxergirl (Post 391667)
I know I have been one of the first to actally slag MPD off- and with good reason to press- but why exactly are you cancelling now?

To be fair- they have now emailed everyone, laid the cards on the table, given you a date when they are expecting the devices in and a date when they expect to send them out to you (and therefore a rough date, depending on the delivery option you chose as to what day you should recieve it). The Nokia.co.uk customers are receiving theirs which have been sent out as planned this week, so you know it's on it's way, so you don't think it sounds to sense to wait and see if it at least turns up on the first date that they've mailed out?
Yes, I know- I'm pissed off with waiting- believe me I'm the most impatient person I know- but I don't get your logic. sorry.

After seeing all of the issues raised on here (broken MIC and Endless Reboots, Bricked device etc,etc) and the treatment NUKNUK has been shown by Nokia when trying to replace his day 1, dead handset.

As there's high chance of getting a dud....

I have ZERO confidence in MPD resolving these sort of issues as they dont respond to calls, mails or webchat (when it's working!)

I am not willing to accept "take it to a Nokia repair centre" for a brand new device.

Of course you take your chances....... but this is one step too far for me.

ninjaboxergirl 2009-11-25 16:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jackabite (Post 391713)
After seeing all of the issues raised on here (broken MIC and Endless Reboots, Bricked device etc,etc) and the treatment NUKNUK has been shown by Nokia when trying to replace his day 1, dead handset.

As there's high chance of getting a dud....

I have ZERO confidence in MPD resolving these sort of issues as they dont respond to calls, mails or webchat (when it's working!)

I am not willing to accept "take it to a Nokia repair centre" for a brand new device.

Of course you take your chances....... but this is one step too far for me.

Yes, fair enough- I figured it would be that.

murlan9 2009-11-25 16:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jackabite (Post 391713)
After seeing all of the issues raised on here (broken MIC and Endless Reboots, Bricked device etc,etc) and the treatment NUKNUK has been shown by Nokia when trying to replace his day 1, dead handset.

As there's high chance of getting a dud....

I have ZERO confidence in MPD resolving these sort of issues as they dont respond to calls, mails or webchat (when it's working!)

I am not willing to accept "take it to a Nokia repair centre" for a brand new device.

Of course you take your chances....... but this is one step too far for me.

pay a bit extra and buy it from a shop then!!! If you buy it from the web for a cheap deal you will get cheap service. Go into a Nokia store and buy one there where the service will be alot better.

edgedemon 2009-11-25 16:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by murlan9 (Post 391725)
pay a bit extra and buy it from a shop then!!! If you buy it from the web for a cheap deal you will get cheap service. Go into a Nokia store and buy one there where the service will be alot better.

Anyone fancy firing off a mail to MPD asking what their policy is if the device arrives with a fault?
I would, but I've bothered them so much, its taking them days to reply to me now...

edit - Anyone else thinking of cancelling? I would if there was a better device out now, but there isn't and I want a n900 really..

jackabite 2009-11-25 16:23

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OK I hate going into shops at the best of times and avoid Mobile Phone Shops like the plague!. From my experience I get far better service from online....

I had place the order with Amazon orginaly but changed my order when Nokia pushed the delivery dates back and MPD promised to have an Exclusive ;) on the device.

Nokia has about 5 shops in the UK - none of which are close to me, so I would have to travel to and from the shop each time.

Also I'd point out that NUKNUK bought from Nokia Online which you would expect the same or better level of service as in shop.

None of this matters to me anymore as I have cancelled my order. I wish you all the best of luck with your purchases.

Dominator24 2009-11-25 16:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by edgedemon (Post 391735)
Anyone fancy firing off a mail to MPD asking what their policy is if the device arrives with a fault?
I would, but I've bothered them so much, its taking them days to reply to me now...

edit - Anyone else thinking of cancelling? I would if there was a better device out now, but there isn't and I want a n900 really..

No matter what you buy all companies need to abide by distance selling regulations, no matter what their policy is.

thiswayup 2009-11-25 16:30

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So tonights game is. Only one person wanted to play eye spy last night.


There seems to be a few negative posts on this site. Who is seriously considering cancelling?

Dominator24 2009-11-25 16:38

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Not me,

If its faulty ill return it for a new one or get a full refund, they cannot refuse.

If its crap I may just say its faulty.

Either way, it seems like its pot luck if your going to get a faulty one, there is no risk in holding on. If you cancel you will miss out if you got the good one.

ninjaboxergirl 2009-11-25 16:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by thiswayup (Post 391767)
So tonights game is. Only one person wanted to play eye spy last night.


There seems to be a few negative posts on this site. Who is seriously considering cancelling?

No- unless my phone hasn't arrived by, let's say Monday 7th (ok that really would be absolutely the last straw) in which case I will call them and find out wtf is going on and take it from there.But I have waited soo long now for this phone and I really don't fancy any others around. I was prepared to accept that seeing as it has just been released there are bound to be teething troubles, so I will ride that out unless it becomes ridiculous.

Dexter1759 2009-11-25 17:47

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You guys seen this post?

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...899#post391899

Do you think this will affect MPD stock? I'm not familiar with the term "on-sale" date, surely if you can buy it now (from Nokia website) then it's on sale!

stayloa 2009-11-25 18:07

Re: Mobile Phones Direct N900 Customers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by murlan9 (Post 391668)
haha some one has no patience and doesnt listen very well.

Nokia will send them to MPD that will before the 27/28. Nokia stores will have them before the 27/28 probably two three days before. On the 27/28th they will start selling them and sending them to customers therefore aslong as the timetable i know and have been told is right you will have them by the 29/30th.
.

It was more that your first post reply to me was really badly written and I couldn't understand what you were going on about!!

Is this not just more speculation?

Sounds like I had it right the first time I posted anyway - just replace "sending them to one shop" with "MDP HQ"...

I'm definitely not cancelling - we still get the direct 2 year warranty with Nokia and I have a service centre near me. And the post about distance selling is also true - they have to legally honour that, so we're okay. May as well get a device first then worry about problems after than not have one at all! Plenty of fully working ones out there too! Its like roulette...

finlaybob 2009-11-25 18:40

Re: Mobile Phones Direct N900 Customers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dexter1759 (Post 391915)
You guys seen this post?

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...899#post391899

Do you think this will affect MPD stock? I'm not familiar with the term "on-sale" date, surely if you can buy it now (from Nokia website) then it's on sale!


Technically we have 'Pre-ordered' from MPD. How much that actually counts for is debatable though. Same as the company.

I've sent two emails, none of which were answered. I pre ordered on the 18th Nov and have not recieved the email stating the phone will be sent on the 3rd dec.


On another note, I work for O2, therefore I know with other providers you can cancel the contract within 14 days, by returning the phone from whence it came..

MPD says 7 days, however I belive distance selling regulations demand 14 days, not 100% however.

I would strongly suggest if anyone is returning the phone (not for replacement, but if you hate it) once delivered, that you do so right away! With a courier, or at the very least RM special delivery so it can be tracked and insured. Also make sure you get a reciept.

If you send it as a normal package and it gets 'lost' vodafone/t-mobile will think you're fibbing, and they'll terminate your contract and send you the full bill i.e. 24 or 18 times your monthly line rental.

I've seen it happen, and as hard as it is to tell whether someone is lying over the phone, if a 30 year old is in tears telling you the phone was returned to carphone warehouse 2 weeks ago, you tend to believe them.

I'm not trying to scare anyone, I'm also in the same boat :p

hallokitty 2009-11-25 18:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ninjaboxergirl (Post 391720)
Yes, fair enough- I figured it would be that.

Yeah, I'm the same.

The issues cropping up+MPD's current performance = fail.

I wanted it by the end of november (yes, the extra 3 days are, in my opinion, too much), but since that's not possible, I'll probably just wait until next year and see if the issues are fixed.

nirave 2009-11-25 18:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by finlaybob (Post 392031)
Technically we have 'Pre-ordered' from MPD. How much that actually counts for is debatable though. Same as the company.

I've sent two emails, none of which were answered. I pre ordered on the 18th Nov and have not recieved the email stating the phone will be sent on the 3rd dec.


On another note, I work for O2, therefore I know with other providers you can cancel the contract within 14 days, by returning the phone from whence it came..

MPD says 7 days, however I belive distance selling regulations demand 14 days, not 100% however.

I would strongly suggest if anyone is returning the phone (not for replacement, but if you hate it) once delivered, that you do so right away! With a courier, or at the very least RM special delivery so it can be tracked and insured. Also make sure you get a reciept.

If you send it as a normal package and it gets 'lost' vodafone/t-mobile will think you're fibbing, and they'll terminate your contract and send you the full bill i.e. 24 or 18 times your monthly line rental.

I've seen it happen, and as hard as it is to tell whether someone is lying over the phone, if a 30 year old is in tears telling you the phone was returned to carphone warehouse 2 weeks ago, you tend to believe them.

I'm not trying to scare anyone, I'm also in the same boat :p

Right, firstly DSR says 7 days.

Secondly, with MPD if you use the simcard for whatever reason (i.e. receive a text, send a text etc.) you CANNOT cancel the contract (this is in their T&C) only exchange the handset.

Thirdly, I agree, Royal Mail Special Delivery is the only way to go with that!

Fourthly, Nokia Flagship Stores: if you've already pre-ordered then you'll get it this friday - if you pre-order now you'll get 4th december.

Lastly, if you've ordered on T-mobile from MPD ... DO NOT CANCEL YOUR ORDER, reason here: N900 Exclusivity Update

edgedemon 2009-11-25 19:33

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Nice post - interesting to see why the t-mobile deals disappeared, I was lucky, I managed to get one as they were so much cheaper than the vodafone and I get to upgrade in 12 months

dreadnought 2009-11-25 19:52

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Just out of idle curiosity, will the 'pending stock' sign (oh, how I hate that sign) on the MPD order page change when they actually receive some stock or when they actually ship it to us? It would be nice to get some kind of update....but I'm not expecting much from MPD

nirave 2009-11-25 20:02

Re: Mobile Phones Direct N900 Customers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by edgedemon (Post 392125)
Nice post - interesting to see why the t-mobile deals disappeared, I was lucky, I managed to get one as they were so much cheaper than the vodafone and I get to upgrade in 12 months

I'm gonna go out on a limb here by saying this but..

If you ordered a 12month then you're alright, you get an upgrade at 11months.
18months - upgrade at 17months.

From my experience in telecoms though, t-mobile have the worst upgrades system as they give you an upgrade allowance (to spend on a handset) and on upgrades, unless you spend a fortune, the handsets are well expensive (on upgrade recently a friend of mine was quoted £155 for the 5800.. and his upgrade allowance after 18months @ £35/month was £147.50).

edgedemon 2009-11-25 20:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by nirave (Post 392210)
I'm gonna go out on a limb here by saying this but..

If you ordered a 12month then you're alright, you get an upgrade at 11months.
18months - upgrade at 17months.

From my experience in telecoms though, t-mobile have the worst upgrades system as they give you an upgrade allowance (to spend on a handset) and on upgrades, unless you spend a fortune, the handsets are well expensive (on upgrade recently a friend of mine was quoted £155 for the 5800.. and his upgrade allowance after 18months @ £35/month was £147.50).

Thanks for the interesting info nirave - appreciated

My primary phone is bought and paid for by work, Im with orange and I have my work and personal number on the one sim. Im porting my personal number to the n900. This is my little toy purely for the web experience, so Im happy to switch networks when the 12 months is up if need be. If I stay, it will still work out cheaper than forking out 500 for a sim free n950 or whatever comes next,

Now all I need is for the damn thing to arrive!!

Dexter1759 2009-11-25 20:22

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I think I've only ever upgraded once, I always just cancel one contract and start a new (and transfer the number if I wish), purely because new customers/contracts always get better deals (except for the once I upgraded!).

I shall not be canceling my T-Mobile order though, glad I got in there with that pre-order!

Alex Atkin UK 2009-11-25 21:22

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The problem I found is T-Mobile never even sell the handset I want anyway, so I have never upgraded. I have however renewed my contract and got a £10 discount each month, so its not too bad.

I am not expecting to replace the N900 quite as quickly anyway. I likely would never have ordered the N900 if my Xperia X1 had come even close to delivering the experience I expected from it. A huge reason I got rid of it was the case cracking design flaw, did not want it to fall apart as soon as my warranty ran out.

Kieron 2009-11-25 21:23

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I second that about waiting at least 18 months for the N900 replacement!

I hope they focus on this device now, and not do what sometimes happens - forget their release a few months later and put all the work into the next!

nirave 2009-11-25 22:32

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Here's something interesting for you all:

N900: What UK networks will get it?

noobmonkey 2009-11-25 22:41

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meh - vodafone for me, just because the signal is so much better :) - don't mind a little extra cost knowing it works just fine :)

Wouldnt mind if MPD decided to hurry a bit up though and get it delivered hehe :)

nirave 2009-11-25 22:43

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Yeah voda is top notch mate!

Alex Atkin UK 2009-11-26 00:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by nirave (Post 392570)
Yeah voda is top notch mate!

I had huge problems with my Motorola V980 on Vodafone. It would constantly flick between 2G and 3G which if I was in the middle of a call at the time, it would cut me off. It would also often fail to receive calls at all.

I am still not sure if it was the V980 at fault or Vodafone. But I certainly wasn't happy that when they sold me the phone they said I would get a call before my contract ran out to discuss renewal but in actual fact I never got a call, it just rolled on for a few months before I realised it should have ended. Had to push support to get a refund of those missed months as I had already switched to T-Mobile anyway due to the problems above and was just waiting for the call to cancel.

To be fair though, you have to argue with all the networks to get refunds as they just blame the customer for everything, that we should KNOW the seller was lying and we have to cancel BEFORE the contract ends or it carries on indefinitely. But still, it rather put me off Vodafone.

nirave 2009-11-26 00:31

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I waited a long time to join vodafone but now I wouldn't hesitate in recommending them to anyone.

Voda do rule imho..

Rcampbell 2009-11-26 00:48

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I've been with Vodafone for a good few years and can't think of one instance where I've had problems with their products or customer service at all. I also can't think of many places I've been where I havn't had signal with them.
So, jumping on the 'Voda rule' bandwagon.

PhilE 2009-11-26 00:52

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I'm starting to waver a little after seeing the problems that are being reported already. It just seems like deja vu from the N97 launch.

Some good results with the memory card game, though, well done everyone. Now, the next thing I can't be bothered to search Google for is... :D

nirave 2009-11-26 00:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by PhilE (Post 392741)
I'm starting to waver a little after seeing the problems that are being reported already. It just seems like deja vu from the N97 launch.

Some good results with the memory card game, though, well done everyone. Now, the next thing I can't be bothered to search Google for is... :D

Gonna sound stupid but what memory card game?

DannStarr 2009-11-26 01:21

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Originally Posted by Rcampbell (Post 392737)
I've been with Vodafone for a good few years and can't think of one instance where I've had problems with their products or customer service at all. I also can't think of many places I've been where I havn't had signal with them.
So, jumping on the 'Voda rule' bandwagon.

I think that whether you can jump on the "voda rule" bandwagon depend on your location.

I jumped on that very bandwagon myself (i never enter in to any more than the 30 day deals) thinking that voda rule - I geeked out on checking network operator maps for a while, which helped convince me that voda rule, however, when I put real world experience next to what their coverage maps suggest for my areas of working and living I am greatly disappointed. I use an iphone (currently) so my signal isn't as good as it could be anyway, but voda certainly dont help here.

Voda customer services I never had a problem with, but for coverage here, for me its Three (believe it or not) and o2 - with O2 I get a 3G signal nearly everywhere I go (even when their map says I wont) those two networks arent without their own faults in other areas though.

Alex Atkin UK 2009-11-26 01:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DannStarr (Post 392770)
I think that whether you can jump on the "voda rule" bandwagon depend on your location.

I jumped on that very bandwagon myself (i never enter in to any more than the 30 day deals) thinking that voda rule - I geeked out on checking network operator maps for a while, which helped convince me that voda rule, however, when I put real world experience next to what their coverage maps suggest for my areas of working and living I am greatly disappointed. I use an iphone (currently) so my signal isn't as good as it could be anyway, but voda certainly dont help here.

Voda customer services I never had a problem with, but for coverage here, for me its Three (believe it or not) and o2 - with O2 I get a 3G signal nearly everywhere I go (even when their map says I wont) those two networks arent without their own faults in other areas though.

To be fair, I only really have problems with O2 at home but as that is where I spend 99% of my time, its pretty annoying.

I would get the N900 on T-Mobile anyway because the deals on Vodafone are a lot more expensive, so as long as MPD give me my Combi20 I will be happy.

PhilE 2009-11-26 02:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by nirave (Post 392747)
Gonna sound stupid but what memory card game?

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=34964&page=8

nirave 2009-11-26 02:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by edgedemon (Post 390883)
Im suspecting Fri

Based on the conversation I had with the MPD guy at the NFS in London, MPD will get their stock the same time it hits the Nokia retail shops.
The moment it get there, Im on the phone to MPD and maybe cancelling my order and buying in store..

Don't is all I can say.

As I posted in another thread, if you have already pre-ordered you will get it this friday from NFS but pre-order now and you'll get it 4th december as all incoming stock has been allocated for pre-orders!.

maemojedi 2009-11-26 02:58

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well I got mine today from Nokia (not nokiaretail or the prolific liars @ mpd)

And i have to admit it's hard to put down. It''s much smaller than i was led to believe and really intuitive.

Best device I ever bought

nirave 2009-11-26 02:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hallokitty (Post 391050)
http://www.play.com/Mobiles/Mobile/4..._$ja=tsid:1151

16GB MicroSDHC, 26.99, free delivery

Try beat that ;)

As great as that price is... I'm more tempted by the SanDisk one from CPW one: £31.99 - £5 extra for a genuine sandisk one? all day long in my book!

Dexter1759 2009-11-26 08:23

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Originally Posted by nirave (Post 392861)
As great as that price is... I'm more tempted by the SanDisk one from CPW one: £31.99 - £5 extra for a genuine sandisk one? all day long in my book!

Must say I have to agree, an extra fiver for sandisk has got to be worth it. Having said that I (and others I know) have never had any problems with PNY memory.

So today's a new day, does anyone have any info on whether MPD will be receiving their stock today? tomorrow? Any other MPD related news/updates? I'm so bored of waiting for this phone now. I just pray that I'm not in the minority (assuming it's minority) that have a mic problem or rebooting problem, when it finally arrives!

Interestingly, I was chatting to a friend last night who recently decided to get the N97 mini, it's the first upgrade since he got the N95-1 3 years ago!! And he was telling me that when the N95 first came out it was riddled with all sorts of problems, including numerous reboots a day. Then the N95 went on to be one of the best phones ever! My N95 8Gb has rarely let me down!

edgedemon 2009-11-26 08:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by nirave (Post 392861)
As great as that price is... I'm more tempted by the SanDisk one from CPW one: £31.99 - £5 extra for a genuine sandisk one? all day long in my book!

It's not just the price that matters, its also what class of card it is...

I personally would drop below a class 6 for any 16Gb card as the faster the memory, the better the performance. The problem is so many retailers don't list what class the cards they are selling are...


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