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andrewfblack 2009-12-16 02:46

Re: Artists and designers - I need help: sheep!
 
Nice I like my sheep on Wazd's grass. I'll do my wolf tomorrow, and get it posted. I love to see my work in action.

RevdKathy 2009-12-16 07:57

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Thanks for the suggestion of OS sounds - we'll go with that unless Annie fancies the task of recording her sheep.

The 'top down' sheep (God's eye view) are seriously sweet. Looks like we may be approaching having a basic level one coming together. :D

Brilliant work, people. You may all Safely Graze.

andrewfblack 2009-12-16 16:19

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Making a top down wolf is kicking my butt. Anyone want to have a try at it? I just can't get it right.

ciroip 2009-12-17 03:40

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still no wolfs?
I made a couple of frames of a sneaky one (a running wolf would be unfair for the heard).
It would need some interpolation to make the animation a bit smoother but could be a start:
the animated gif:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2566/...d9f46203_o.gif
and the usable transparent pngs
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2739/...d0fe1bfa_o.png

and on the field:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2493/...b5ea5c0c_o.png

aspidites 2009-12-17 04:19

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The grass/wolf/sheep combo is looking fantanstic. Any way to get the wolf in svg format?

ciroip 2009-12-17 05:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by aspidites (Post 431376)
The grass/wolf/sheep combo is looking fantanstic. Any way to get the wolf in svg format?

not a problem, beside the 'feather' of the shadows and the line styles (easily to fix the first in photoshop). Ill post the svg somewhere 2morrow (someone have opened a garage project?

RevdKathy 2009-12-17 08:13

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Oh wow! We have grass, pens, sheep and wolves. That's just awesome guys!

(Is it time for a group hug yet?)

andrewfblack 2009-12-17 13:14

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Wolf matches my Sheep and Wazds grass really well have a garage project started at https://garage.maemo.org/projects/sheep-dog/ garage is really slow right now I hope the upgrade comes soon. Everyone working on the project request to join project and I'll add you.

lcuk 2009-12-17 13:37

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how do they look scaled down slightly, the ui will be really cluttered with them so big.
incidentally, install "variations on rockdodger" from one of hte maemo repositories

it is written in SDL and uses accelerometer to have a controlled spaceship and lots of rocks around
ie a similar style of game engine to what we are proposing

worth a look

ciroip 2009-12-17 14:03

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lcuk (Post 431859)
how do they look scaled down slightly, the ui will be really cluttered with them so big.

I was thinking the same, the wolf is a vectorium lupus so is used to be streched, + the entire thing reminded me a bit of the Dino Dini 'Kick Off': an alternative to scale down the sprites could be to make the field bigger (something like 2x2 screens?) ; that would need real men developers to manage the panning and a 'radar map' but would look better on screenshots ( ;) ). An alternativa approac could be to zoom in and out but that is a completely new world of complications. Let me finish my coffee and Ill move on a computer for the svg wolf

hopbeat 2009-12-17 14:10

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Great graphics!
I think that for the engine I will go with electric charges, so the sheep will be attracted and scared by various 'charges' and will move according to the sum of the vectors. This way they will be moving towards the point of local highest potential.
Having that, it should be simple to incorporate all the proposed solutions, i.e. accelerometers, touch control, running dog control, different species etc.

Comments about this, before I get to work? :)

lcuk 2009-12-17 14:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ciroip (Post 431893)
I was thinking the same, the wolf is a vectorium lupus so is used to be streched, + the entire thing reminded me a bit of the Dino Dini 'Kick Off': an alternative to scale down the sprites could be to make the field bigger (something like 2x2 screens?) ; that would need real men developers to manage the panning and a 'radar map' but would look better on screenshots ( ;) ). An alternativa approac could be to zoom in and out but that is a completely new world of complications. Let me finish my coffee and Ill move on a computer for the svg wolf

hmmm how about head to head on 2 n900s o_O
thats for another thread tho ;)

panning and zooming is easy, however liqbase doesnt support polyfil routines yet, someone would have to write them, or use bitmap scaling as an alternative

Fargus 2009-12-17 14:26

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Originally Posted by RevdKathy (Post 427434)
Lasers would scare the sheep. Tasers, otoh... are used for cattle occasionally. And herding elephants.

Too much 'encouragement' and the sheep fall over for a 'snooze' until the shocks wear off?

Fargus 2009-12-17 14:28

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Is it just me or is this discussion starting to sound like the inside of a Jeff Minter realilty? All we need now are Llamas or some Camels and the picture would be complete!

ciroip 2009-12-17 14:28

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Originally Posted by lcuk (Post 431900)
panning and zooming is easy, however liqbase doesnt support polyfil routines yet, someone would have to write them, or use bitmap scaling as an alternative

I vote for bitmap scaling
AFB was right: garage is down... Any other acceptable fileserver/service alternative that will not hurt the community sensitivity?
Meanwhile I attached the svg here.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Fargus (Post 431918)
Is it just me or is this discussion starting to sound like the inside of a Jeff Minter realilty? All we need now are Llamas or some Camels and the picture would be complete!

still not psychedelic enough...

Fargus 2009-12-17 14:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lcuk (Post 431900)
hmmm how about head to head on 2 n900s o_O
thats for another thread tho ;)

panning and zooming is easy, however liqbase doesnt support polyfil routines yet, someone would have to write them, or use bitmap scaling as an alternative

Just a thought, what about parallex scrolling? The desktop supports it so I am sure that will be part of the hardware acceleration instruction set. You could combine the multi-screen and radar elements with a defender style wrap-around for play area.

For 'mechandising' how about a theme? :) Change the haptic feedback to a smapled 'baaa'?

(Time for the medication again I think!)

andrewfblack 2009-12-17 14:54

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I think we just need to give garage a few days to get upgraded. For not just share stuff here.

andyfrommk 2009-12-17 19:41

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Here is my attempt in Blender3D, the sheep is very basic and it looks more like a duck
http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/4613/herder.jpg

RevdKathy 2009-12-17 19:50

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Lovely pens, though!

RevdKathy 2009-12-19 16:44

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Any news on whether our sheep are coming homeward one by one... anyone heard any sheep bells across the lonely air yet?

(Damn, these Christma carols are infecting me!)

lcuk 2009-12-24 13:54

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christmas bump!
i've got a sheep on here, i couldnt make anything rotate as required (i still cant do everything i need) but rotation helps.

theres a sheep on this video which explains things quite well
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Z51-vCa0_Q

RevdKathy 2009-12-24 20:17

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Baa... I feel seasick! Baaa... stop turning my world around! Baaa!

It's great. Your sheep is almost as good as mine, though. :p

Thanks Lcuk.

Fargus 2009-12-25 08:10

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Not quite the game you were after but it did seem vaguely relevant and highlights this worthy cause once more: Shhep Dash...

RevdKathy 2009-12-25 14:47

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Originally Posted by Fargus (Post 441193)
Not quite the game you were after but it did seem vaguely relevant and highlights this worthy cause once more: Shhep Dash...

Oh yes, I have wasted many hours which I shall never see again playing that one, too.

Haus3r 2009-12-29 17:16

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This is shaping up to be an interesting One - keep it up!

RevdKathy 2009-12-29 20:38

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We may have gone quiet, but I believe we are stiil gestating lambs in a few corners. This project is not yet ready for the mint sauce. ;)

RevdKathy 2010-01-01 09:14

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I was playing a Wallace and Gromit board game last night with my family... those were seriously cute sheep. I kept thinking of you lot.

How are we coming along?

zehjotkah 2010-01-01 09:26

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watching lcuk's video i'm hoping even more, that QT get replaced by liqbase in maemo6... ;)

hopbeat 2010-01-06 21:22

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Anyone (@andrewfblack ?) could do some multiframe (4-5) sheep and maybe dog? Some generic head/tail movements.

Also, could someone artistic give me a tip how to make those sheep (seen from above) look like running instead of sliding (as they do right now)? Should they movement be jerky, should they rock side to side or anything else?

Thanks!

andrewfblack 2010-01-07 01:13

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when I get to work tomorrow I'll work on some head moving up/down and side to side, and tail shakes. Dog/Wolf shape was kicking my butt but a few links back in a wolf with movement. Maybe that person could do the sheepdog as well. I think rocking would be best better then jerky.

RevdKathy 2010-01-07 08:06

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Would it help if I posted a top-down photo of my dog, if I could get him to co-operate?

(He probably won't - the moment you pay him attention he sits for food!)

lcuk 2010-01-07 09:32

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haha yes Kathy :D

andrewfblack 2010-01-07 13:00

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Originally Posted by RevdKathy (Post 456877)
Would it help if I posted a top-down photo of my dog, if I could get him to co-operate?

(He probably won't - the moment you pay him attention he sits for food!)

It took me 20 minutes to get a half way top down of my dog. I'll give it another try if no one steps on to try it.

RevdKathy 2010-01-07 17:05

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I tried with Murph. He kept sitting and hoping to get fed treats. I'll try sneaking up on him when he's standing by a food bowl or something!

hopbeat 2010-01-08 21:00

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Thanks for all the efforts with dogs, I know it can be hard :)

Could someone maybe make a juicy grass icon, seen from above? Something similar to this, rather (but from above). Preferably round, radius of about 40 pixels.

Thank you!

RevdKathy 2010-01-08 21:01

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Grass seen from above - maybe clover leaf?

smegheadz 2010-01-08 21:02

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how bout a top down pic of my fluffy hamster :P hybrid sheep game lol

hopbeat 2010-01-08 22:24

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@smegheadz, we shall be happy to accept everything that is even remotely possible to herd :)

smegheadz 2010-01-08 22:39

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i could take a pic of him on a white sheet to make it easier to cut him out.
could also take a few pics of his cage(without the bars) so you have a hamster enviourment idea. herd him into his wheel or little house haha.

jkq 2010-01-09 00:34

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Originally Posted by hopbeat (Post 460190)
@smegheadz, we shall be happy to accept everything that is even remotely possible to herd :)

We should use some of RevdKathy's bears. :D

-jkq


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