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ajamils 2010-01-05 13:52

Re: N900 Radio Transmitter: ways to amplify the radio signal
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by YoDude (Post 453358)
It works and it adds so much value to the N900. The FM transmitter will now act as most expect it to and not the way it was shipped. Cheers.

is there a "non geeky" way for newbies to achieve these results? For me N900 transmitter is completely useless because all I get is static :(

skzo 2010-01-05 14:16

Re: N900 Radio Transmitter: ways to amplify the radio signal
 
This is awesome guys ! i was looking for this. tks, will try it later today.

Other nice tweak would be getting the radio display to show the name of the song playing instead of "NOKIA".

mason 2010-01-05 14:19

Re: N900 Radio Transmitter: ways to amplify the radio signal
 
it would be nice if this could be added to the fmxwidget, so everytime you switch the fm transmitter on youll get the value set automaticaly ... let's see if i can get ahold of the guy who wrote it...

slcp 2010-01-05 14:23

Re: N900 Radio Transmitter: ways to amplify the radio signal
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bratag (Post 453146)
You didnt add the line to your suduoers file as shown in step II. You have to have that line otherwise you will get prompted

I have the same problem, xterm opening and requesting password, however I have edited sudoers according to your instructions. Cannot see where I have erred though I must have...any ideas? Some common sense mistake perhaps?

Bratag 2010-01-05 15:00

Re: N900 Radio Transmitter: ways to amplify the radio signal
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by slcp (Post 453966)
I have the same problem, xterm opening and requesting password, however I have edited sudoers according to your instructions. Cannot see where I have erred though I must have...any ideas? Some common sense mistake perhaps?

Make sure you do not have a blank line or trailing characters after the line. As stated in a few posts previous its best to use visudo to edit this file as it will highlight syntax errors etc.

slate8 2010-01-05 15:51

Re: N900 Radio Transmitter: ways to amplify the radio signal
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ajamils (Post 453939)
is there a "non geeky" way for newbies to achieve these results? For me N900 transmitter is completely useless because all I get is static :(

I'll second that - any way this could be made into an app or similar for those not so techie? :)

Bratag 2010-01-05 16:09

Re: N900 Radio Transmitter: ways to amplify the radio signal
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by slate8 (Post 454075)
I'll second that - any way this could be made into an app or similar for those not so techie? :)

I will see what I can do. No promises but I will try package it up

ajamils 2010-01-05 16:19

Re: N900 Radio Transmitter: ways to amplify the radio signal
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bratag (Post 454101)
I will see what I can do. No promises but I will try package it up

Thank you sir. This would be GREAT :).

YoDude 2010-01-05 20:45

Re: N900 Radio Transmitter: ways to amplify the radio signal
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bratag (Post 454101)
I will see what I can do. No promises but I will try package it up

I told ya... I can almost hear the songs the'll be singin' about you now. :)

qole 2010-01-05 22:28

Re: N900 Radio Transmitter: ways to amplify the radio signal
 
You better hurry up Bratag, if you want those songs to have your name in them... ;) :)

yorg 2010-01-06 00:58

Re: N900 Radio Transmitter: ways to amplify the radio signal
 
any luck with setting the frequency below 88000?

ViciousXUSMC 2010-01-06 07:52

Re: N900 Radio Transmitter: ways to amplify the radio signal
 
Whats the easiest way to apply that long command to echo power level 118 without committing it to memory and typing it out? I tried copy/paste from a note but that doesnt work.

For a temporary solution so I can try it in the car when I leave work I am just leaving the terminal open in the background after having typed it in there once so I can use the up arrow to recall it.

Any more permanent ways to use this command on command?

update: tried it out, not a big improvement for me in the car. Still fades out too easy, very sensitive to positon and even where I drive. Its a combination of weak reception from my car and crowded radio waves.

I did notice something today worth noting, the volume level on the player effects the transmission. Turning it up all the way made it more clear, while lowest volume you can not hear it.

Just a guess but its possible the reason different people are reporting a different transmission strength was due to nothing more than a different volume setting with 118 being the max.

I think the next thing to do is research a signal booster for the car rather than a way to make the N900 transmit better. Though if we find any effective way to make it boosted higher (or change the tuning to an area less crowded) without damaging the unit its a welcome mod.

YoDude 2010-01-06 20:51

Re: N900 Radio Transmitter: ways to amplify the radio signal
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qole (Post 454773)
You better hurry up Bratag, if you want those songs to have your name in them... ;) :)

What rhymes with qwerty? ;)

qole 2010-01-06 20:54

Re: N900 Radio Transmitter: ways to amplify the radio signal
 
Uploading a package now... be patient (half hour to show up)... I'll post when it's there and installable...

qole 2010-01-06 21:48

Re: N900 Radio Transmitter: ways to amplify the radio signal
 
Ok, I've uploaded fm-boost_0.1-2fremantle1 to the extras-devel repository. It really is just the script developed by Stephen Birch, go1dfish, jsharper, YoDude, DaveQB, and Bratag (with help from others :)), a sudoers.d entry, an icon and a menu entry.

People who use this hack need to test it now...

It is in the "System" category.

Standard warning: Beware the Extras-devel repository. Testers should enable the repository, install this package, and then disable the repository.

YoDude: Song to be to the tune of "God Save The King" :D ;)

qole 2010-01-06 22:06

Re: N900 Radio Transmitter: ways to amplify the radio signal
 
Bug in this version: the icon doesn't show (oops, left the .png extension on!)

Just a note: the new firmware looks like it may set the TX power to 118 by default, thus negating the need for this hack.

Bratag 2010-01-06 22:08

Re: N900 Radio Transmitter: ways to amplify the radio signal
 
Sorry folks - and thanks qole - Work has been crawling up my butt and hasnt given me a lot of packaging free time :)

YoDude 2010-01-06 22:16

Re: N900 Radio Transmitter: ways to amplify the radio signal
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qole (Post 456305)
Ok, I've uploaded fm-boost_0.1-2fremantle1 to the extras-devel repository. It really is just the script developed by Stephen Birch, go1dfish, jsharper, YoDude, DaveQB, and Bratag (with help from others :)), a sudoers.d entry, an icon and a menu entry.

People who use this hack need to test it now...

It is in the "System" category.

Standard warning: Beware the Extras-devel repository. Testers should enable the repository, install this package, and then disable the repository.

YoDude: Song to be to the tune of "God Save The King" :D ;)

Just a start..

"Hey qole, take a walk on the wild side.
...and the maemo boys sing,
Do ta do do, do, do, do ta do do do..."

:)

DaveQB 2010-01-06 22:25

Re: N900 Radio Transmitter: ways to amplify the radio signal
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qole (Post 456335)
Bug in this version: the icon doesn't show (oops, left the .png extension on!)

Just a note: the new firmware looks like it may set the TX power to 118 by default, thus negating the need for this hack.

Interesting. That would be good.

ajamils 2010-01-06 22:44

Re: N900 Radio Transmitter: ways to amplify the radio signal
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qole (Post 456335)
Bug in this version: the icon doesn't show (oops, left the .png extension on!)

Just a note: the new firmware looks like it may set the TX power to 118 by default, thus negating the need for this hack.

New firmware ????????? :confused: How do you know about it ?? Any other thing updates that you can share about the new firmware ?

Veix 2010-01-06 23:14

Re: N900 Radio Transmitter: ways to amplify the radio signal
 
Spill the beans.... how long we have to use the hack ? :wink:wink

YoDude 2010-01-06 23:19

Re: N900 Radio Transmitter: ways to amplify the radio signal
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ajamils (Post 456381)
New firmware ????????? :confused: How do you know about it ?? Any other thing updates that you can share about the new firmware ?

Selected beta testers are not at liberty to say... and if they were there would be another thread for it. :)

***

Back on topic... Since I was appointed the example boy, DO NOT FORGET TO DISABLE the "Extras-Developer" repository when you are through downloading.

With a new firmware update coming or even with the installation of everyday programs from the "safe" repos, it is very easy to mung it all up if it pulls un-tested versions of dependencies out of "Extras-Developer" because you forgot to disable it.

mason 2010-01-06 23:21

Re: N900 Radio Transmitter: ways to amplify the radio signal
 
thanks for the package, just tried it and works like a charm!

Matan 2010-01-06 23:40

Re: N900 Radio Transmitter: ways to amplify the radio signal
 
It is possible to find out when fmtx is activated by listening on the dbus. So it is easy to make this script run automatically whenever that happens.

qole 2010-01-07 00:00

Re: N900 Radio Transmitter: ways to amplify the radio signal
 
YoDude is just speeding away,
Thought he was Texrat for a day
Then I guess he came to see,
Lyrics weren't his specialty
-- he said:

Quote:

Originally Posted by YoDude (Post 456344)
"Hey qole, take a walk on the wild side.
...and the maemo boys sing,
Do ta do do, do, do, do ta do do do..."
:)


Matan 2010-01-07 00:25

Re: N900 Radio Transmitter: ways to amplify the radio signal
 
The best is to write a small daemon that listens to the d-bus. The problem is that the relevant events have array and list arguments, which dbus-scripts does not support.

The second best, but much easier, is depend on the package dbus-scripts, and include in your package a file /et/dbus-scripts.d/fmtx including a line:

/usr/bin/fmtx-power * * com.nokia.policy info connected 1

This way the script /usr/bin/fmtx-power will be called whenever fmtx is enabled. The main problem I have is that this event looks generic, and not fmtx specific, though I did not see it generate by anything else. I suggest that the script should first check that the power_level is non-zero, before writing 118.

vietn900 2010-01-07 07:02

Re: N900 Radio Transmitter: ways to amplify the radio signal
 
sorry if its repost but just incase ...

here's the FM transmitter hack :

pt 1 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mztH87af4SI

pt 2 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmCmZ5kYSaU

Better range and also RDS profile through radio says "NOKIA" instead of station freq :)

YoDude 2010-01-08 02:55

Re: N900 Radio Transmitter: ways to amplify the radio signal
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qole (Post 456517)
YoDude is just speeding away,
Thought he was Texrat for a day
Then I guess he came to see,
Lyrics weren't his specialty
-- he said:

I see how he is Bratag, he couldn't even wait for me to finish the song either. :rolleyes:
:D


Quote:

/ C - Dm7 - / / C D / F D / 1st / /

YoDude was just driving away
Thought he'd transmit some FM that day
He put his phone here
He put his phone there
Figured talk.maemo.org was the place where
He'd say:
Hey qole, take a walk on the wild side
Yo qole, boost my signal on the wild side.

... and the newbies go
Doo, doo doo, doo doo, doo doo doo...

(F) / C - Dm7 - / :
Apologies to Mr. Rabinowitz for mangling his lyrics and kudos to Herbie Flowers on fretless bass for that mesmerizing compound interval that somehow makes the rhythm of both sets of lyrics work...

F2thaK 2010-01-08 07:43

Re: N900 Radio Transmitter: ways to amplify the radio signal
 
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there is now an app that runs the hack script when u run it...

tested today with my N900 and g/friends ford fiesta with FM RDS notify which shows device name and music tags on cars cd player screen!! works perfect :D

checkout my setup.. wont use it often, but it looks the goods and now it works!

salah99 2010-01-09 01:57

Re: N900 Radio Transmitter: ways to amplify the radio signal
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by yorg (Post 454939)
any luck with setting the frequency below 88000?

Same question.

Flandry 2010-01-09 03:04

Re: N900 Radio Transmitter: ways to amplify the radio signal
 
It's illegal in countries that adopted FCC regulations. I don't know how many that is, but enough that Nokia isn't changing it (as was stated in the bug tracker closing remark).

YoDude 2010-01-09 03:28

Re: N900 Radio Transmitter: ways to amplify the radio signal
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Flandry (Post 460564)
It's illegal in countries that adopted FCC regulations. I don't know how many that is, but enough that Nokia isn't changing it (as was stated in the bug tracker closing remark).

What, frequency or power level?

Do you have a link to the bug?

***

BTW, the next best feature of an FM transmitter app would be 5 frequency pre-sets so that once vacant channels are found, they can be saved.and named for the locations they're best used.

>> http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/vacant

Flandry 2010-01-09 03:29

Re: N900 Radio Transmitter: ways to amplify the radio signal
 
It was discussed a few pages back; search the thread.

Here: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...fcc#post448917

yorg 2010-01-09 03:36

Re: N900 Radio Transmitter: ways to amplify the radio signal
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Flandry (Post 460564)
It's illegal in countries that adopted FCC regulations. I don't know how many that is, but enough that Nokia isn't changing it (as was stated in the bug tracker closing remark).

it is not exactly like that but close

anyway it is not illegal where i am and at a specific output level so i was wondering whether it is possible to change it

i guess not :(

Flandry 2010-01-09 03:51

Re: N900 Radio Transmitter: ways to amplify the radio signal
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by yorg (Post 460609)
it is not exactly like that but close

Oh? How is it not illegal? I was skeptical at first but the material i read seemed fairly clear on it.

tangs 2010-01-09 11:24

Re: N900 Radio Transmitter: ways to amplify the radio signal
 
I just downloaded it.
When i click on the icon, it seems to open a Xterminal, that is closing very fast (less than one second) and that's all.
Is it working now ? is it a bug ?

BTW, thanx a lot to work on it, I don't have a good reception in my car and I really hope that it will help :)

mason 2010-01-09 11:29

Re: N900 Radio Transmitter: ways to amplify the radio signal
 
normal behaviour since some shell script is running to set the value... just execute it and check for yourself via xterm

Quote:

cat /sys/class/i2c-adapter/i2c-2/2-0063/power_level
and you sould see the 118

tangs 2010-01-09 11:34

Re: N900 Radio Transmitter: ways to amplify the radio signal
 
so it should work ? , very simple :)
Is it permanent ?

mason 2010-01-09 11:38

Re: N900 Radio Transmitter: ways to amplify the radio signal
 
no it's not, you have to press it everytime you change the state from off to on, but i guess the community will come up with another solution soon :)

tangs 2010-01-09 11:41

Re: N900 Radio Transmitter: ways to amplify the radio signal
 
thanks for your fast replies mason !


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