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littlewolf 2010-01-21 13:12
Re: Nokia to offer free navigation??
 
Why the complaints about lack of support?

The older symbian phone users must have been *****ing last month..."Great - just bought my Nxx and now Nokia bring out N900 and Maemo...won't be seeing any updates for my phone now"
Then today - "Oh free Maps - maybe Nokia does love its old customers still..."

On the N900 front - we've had two firmware updates already this month. How can that be lack of support?

The N900 has been marketed primarily towards developers rather than normal consumers. I wouldn't expect all the same things as standard consumers would get. Although to be honest I'd be surprised if we don't see Maps on the N900 soon.

phortize 2010-01-21 13:12
Re: Ovi Maps goes free for premium content (no N900 *yet*)
 
but then who will buy sygic?

they said they were "workin together" in the past days, im afraid we were "sold" to sygic as part of the agreement.
two friends of mine are waiting for iphone 4 i was convincing them to buy the n900 instead. now i stopped. maybe i should start convincing them to buy my own n900...

littlewolf 2010-01-21 13:18
Re: Ovi Maps goes free for premium content (no N900 *yet*)
 
does the iphone have free Maps then?

volt 2010-01-21 13:24
Re: Ovi Maps goes free for premium content (no N900 *yet*)
 
Mmm. Yeah, I am not saying that the N900 sales are in the past nor the device, I am saying that the planning for the N900 sales and device was in the past.

Nokia did put in a plan and actual work to bring the Ovi Maps version we got to a new platform, the Maemo 5 platform. From whatever they started out with.

They would not have planned like that and put resources like that into the software package if they ment to replace it after 3 months.

Now they're pushing the Sygic nav package. They would not have done that if they had planned to replace the Ovi Maps package after 3 months.

Being surprised and enraged by the lack of a major Ovi Maps upgrade now is... Well...

Don't get me wrong. I think it's is completely legimate to be surprised and enraged about the quality of the Ovi Maps version they DID plan to give us. I just don't think you can expect them to pull a new version out of the Maemo sleeve just yet.

If Nokia wanted to give us Flash 10 but couldn't get it ready in time, they would tell us. And they did. It made people buy the device. If Nokia wanted to give us a free upgrade to better navigation software, they would have told us. It would have made people buy the device.

Now they have planned to give free navigation software to the next generation of Maemo devices. And they have already told us. It will make people buy the device.

johnel 2010-01-21 13:27
Re: Ovi Maps goes free for premium content (no N900 *yet*)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by chrisp7 (Post 486547)
Why are you implying that the N900 is the past, ite been out for a couple of months (in many cases, mainstream release ia few weeks ago!) - assuming the press releases are correct the next maemo device will be out in H2 - that could be up until December. The N900 being the flagship product/highend product will be a key part of the Nokia portfolio. Support of Maemo ovi maps navigation will benefit future sales - even as yet the N900 is in its infancy.
What I was trying to say (I should should have made it clearer) in the first sentence is that Nokia may be considering the N900 is in the past because the Nokia V.P. has said:

"N900 owners shouldn't hold their breath, though, as Nokia is focusing on bringing its free navigation service to the next generation of Maemo devices. That's not to say that the N900 won't get it eventually, only that it's not currently on the roadmap."

Before Nokia start talking about the next version of maemo they should be concentrating on the current version and supporting it. One obvious way is to release the free version of ovi maps on the n900.

If Nokida are "focusing" on the "next generation of maemo devices" then logically they are not focusing on the current version!

The opposite should have been said:
"Nokia are focusing on the current generation of maemo devices...
..eventually the next generation will get it and is on the roadmap"

This is what I meant by the n900 as the past and maemo 5 as legacy.

I personally do not believe that but Nokia seem to leaning this way.

vgasmo 2010-01-21 13:30
Re: Ovi Maps goes free for premium content (no N900 *yet*)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by johnel (Post 486586)
What I was trying to say (I should should have made it clearer) in the first sentence is that Nokia may be considering the N900 is in the past because the Nokia V.P. has said:

"N900 owners shouldn't hold their breath, though, as Nokia is focusing on bringing its free navigation service to the next generation of Maemo devices. That's not to say that the N900 won't get it eventually, only that it's not currently on the roadmap."
My thoughts exactly

volt 2010-01-21 13:33
Re: Ovi Maps goes free for premium content (no N900 *yet*)
 
Considering the number of devices that Nokia make, plans being made are always about the future. Whatever work they do for the current existing devices is support. Bugfixing, or bringing functionality that marketing already promised but they failed to deliver on time.

Maemo can be said to be different in that respect. Because it's this much of an open platform, all the work they do for the M6 generation of devices may (or may not) be easily backported. If they want a blooming community around Maemo, they will be willing to put in some extra effort in backporting.

x61 2010-01-21 13:35
Re: Ovi Maps goes free for premium content (no N900 *yet*)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by vgasmo (Post 486592)
My thoughts exactly
So essentially, the N900 may never have voice guidance navigation. Sweet. Nokia did it again.

chrisp7 2010-01-21 13:35
Re: Ovi Maps goes free for premium content (no N900 *yet*)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by johnel (Post 486586)
What I was trying to say (I should should have made it clearer) in the first sentence is that Nokia may be considering the N900 is in the past because the Nokia V.P. has said:

"N900 owners shouldn't hold their breath, though, as Nokia is focusing on bringing its free navigation service to the next generation of Maemo devices. That's not to say that the N900 won't get it eventually, only that it's not currently on the roadmap."

Before Nokia start talking about the next version of maemo they should be concentrating on the current version and supporting it. One obvious way is to release the free version of ovi maps on the n900.

If Nokida are "focusing" on the "next generation of maemo devices" then logically they are not focusing on the current version!

The opposite should have been said:
"Nokia are focusing on the current generation of maemo devices...
..eventually the next generation will get it and is on the roadmap"

This is what I meant by the n900 as the past and maemo 5 as legacy.

I personally do not believe that but Nokia seem to leaning this way.
Sure I agree with that, I was mainly responding to your translation of Nokias thoughts in your last comment:

Quote:
Originally Posted by johnel (Post 486526)
"The n900 was successful but from Nokia's point-of-view no (sic) much money can be made from it once its been sold but they have to support it and this means allocating minimal numbers of developers to it. They would rather use these developers for the next product."
Once its been sold..

jorjino 2010-01-21 13:41
Re: Ovi Maps goes free for premium content (no N900 *yet*)
 
Guys, look what I found on Nokia`s discussion forum:

"Brilliant Announcement by Nokia well done.!
Well that depends what you mean by the "NEW" ovi maps.... The "free" stufff is the old Ovi maps. Navteq the actual map maker has a new collection of maps that will most likely be the "premium" map software.

http://corporate.navteq.com/webapps/...glishonly=true

So for Nokia the question is why just retire ovi maps 3 when it can give it away for free and make a huge impact.

NOW FOR ALL THE N900 MOANERS out there...have you looked at OVI Maps 1.0 after the '51' update? Have you plotted a route? We do it and goto "directions" what do you see...TURN by TURN Navigation.
OVI maps on N900 is 97% done, all that needs to happen is a speech synthesiser integrated that can read those directions. Trust me we will see ovi maps with functional turn by turn navigation on the N900 very soon. "

So, maybe someone has internal information.......
Or I am wrong..... :confused:

bonerp 2010-01-21 13:59
Re: Nokia to offer free navigation??
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by littlewolf (Post 486560)
Why the complaints about lack of support?

The older symbian phone users must have been *****ing last month..."Great - just bought my Nxx and now Nokia bring out N900 and Maemo...won't be seeing any updates for my phone now"
Then today - "Oh free Maps - maybe Nokia does love its old customers still..."

On the N900 front - we've had two firmware updates already this month. How can that be lack of support?

The N900 has been marketed primarily towards developers rather than normal consumers. I wouldn't expect all the same things as standard consumers would get. Although to be honest I'd be surprised if we don't see Maps on the N900 soon.
Agree mostly - my old N96 took months before it even started remotely working as promised! Nokia are moving in the right direction and after only a couple of months.

As for it being marketed towards developers, this is bollx.

However, for those of you that seem far too stressed about this, I suggest you visit Ebay later and sell yours.

This is a new phone, all these apps were not available on any other Nokia in such a short space in time or the godly iPhone. So chill and enjoy the N900 and learn more about it. These new apps will hopefully come along sooner or later. Previous Nokias still are having apps made now. I just hope the N900 continues to receive attention even when manhatton 6 comes out....

russo_br 2010-01-21 14:04
Re: Ovi Maps goes free for premium content (no N900 *yet*)
 
I saw the same post in Nokia Discussion Forum about Maps being 97% complete, and first agreed that probably the just adding the voice guiding would make Ovi Maps for Maemo at least a bit usable, and that doesn't seem to need heavy coding.

But then I wondered, and all the other features they are just announcing for free in Ovi Maps 3.0 like traffic information, guides and so on?? First I tough Ovi Maps for Maemo would catch up with Ovi Maps 3.0 for S60 in order to unify the product versions, with just minor adjustments for each platform. But if Nokia plans to keep the Maemo version as a separate product I am sure we won't have all the features from Symbian before the next Maemo device.

msa 2010-01-21 14:20
Re: Ovi Maps goes free for premium content (no N900 *yet*)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by volt (Post 486511)
I don't know, are you an early adopter? Early adopters are always screwed.
in fact i am.
i just wanted to be treated like a valuable human... :D

phortize 2010-01-21 14:25
Re: Ovi Maps goes free for premium content (no N900 *yet*)
 
there's plenty of n97 unsold out there.

legohan 2010-01-21 14:32
Re: Ovi Maps goes free for premium content (no N900 *yet*)
 
I really believe that the new Ovi Maps will also come to the N900. They have been doing a lot of improvement to their S60 platform and this will be a good way for them to improve their sales. Let not also forget that the N900 is one of the last devices Nokia has release so it'll take a while for them to make this application portable from an S60 environment to a Maemo environment. Let be patient.

malabarbob 2010-01-21 14:37
Re: Ovi Maps goes free for premium content (no N900 *yet*)
 
So wouldn't it make sense that the very same phone they are pushing [N900] on the same page as the Ovi store and the Maps advertisement be able to use both those features fully:rolleyes:

Wes79 2010-01-21 14:38
Re: Ovi Maps goes free for premium content (no N900 *yet*)
 
i may have this wrong and probably have, but on the nokia site about ovi maps free nav, although the n900 isnt there, there is another link to select other compatible devices and the n900 is there. if you select that then it says the latest version is already installed on our masterpieces. not at home at the mo so cant check fully but anyone else noticed this?

jorjino 2010-01-21 14:41
Re: Ovi Maps goes free for premium content (no N900 *yet*)
 
Wes79,

I suppose that it means in Nokia Ovi site there is no new update of Maps for N900.

rockdhero 2010-01-21 14:45
Re: Ovi Maps goes free for premium content (no N900 *yet*)
 
20days old n900 Owner, like most things sip/gtalk calling / Video play back (supporting most of codecs).

happy with using n900 but little bit disapointed by reading nokia announcemnet. Expecting n900 on the top of supported list.

Will wait for it.

franchg 2010-01-21 14:51
Re: Nokia to offer free navigation??
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by johnel (Post 486435)
"We have a great product - N900 we have a large user base here in Europe and a teeny-weeny user base in the USA. Where shall we launch first? It's a no brainer - let's launch in the USA!"
This is just not true. The N900 was launched first in Italy and Germany. http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/28/n...-to-pre-order/

Quote:
Originally Posted by johnel (Post 486435)
"There are bugs in the N900's firmware. Let's prematurely release new firmware and create new ones"
It's called software development. You sould be glad that they are adressing the bugs so quickly.

Quote:
Originally Posted by johnel (Post 486435)
"Maemo 5 is complete but still needs some work. F*** it! Let's create a new version and ignore the current version it's a few months old - that's ancient"
Maemo 5 is not complete. A platform that just added phone capabilities and has still no support to USSD operator codes (https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5357) is anything but complete. Turn by turn navigation is the least problem. Yet it is a beautiful experience, but the road to feature completess will be reached only with maemo 6.
And from maemo 6 on the platform will receive the same support as symbian.

Quote:
Originally Posted by johnel (Post 486435)
"Let's announce free ovi maps update to 10 phones, ignore the n97 flagship phone and don't worry we'll release a free version for maemo - except it will be the new version we have not finished yet"
They clearly stated that N97 ovi maps is coming very soon.


Quote:
Originally Posted by johnel (Post 486435)
"The n900 sold really well! How can we improve sales? We could release the free ovi maps for it too what a great selling point! Why spend £500 on a gps sat nav system when you can buy an n900 phone and functioning computer instead? - Nah! F*** it we'll release for the next non-existent maemo & phone version instead!"
The best selling worldwide smartphone of 2009 was the nokia 5800 followed by the n97. The N900 has sold way less.

bunanson 2010-01-21 14:55
Re: Nokia to offer free navigation??
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by franchg (Post 486728)
...The best selling worldwide smartphone of 2009 was the nokia 5800 followed by the n97. The N900 has sold way less.
Up till 11/2009, sale figure of smartphone here, http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/news/...figures_no.php, and here, http://images.google.com/images?hl=e...BQ&safe=active

bun

johnel 2010-01-21 14:55
Re: Ovi Maps goes free for premium content (no N900 *yet*)
 
I've just seen this:http://europe.nokia.com/support/prod...d#/nokia-n900/

If you look at bottom of page you see this: "*For your Nokia N900 use Mass storage mode."

I'm desperate to try it but I am at work!

If someone can confirm this works I would be eternally grateful!

If this enables the free version then Nokia management are stupidier than I thought!

fjonga 2010-01-21 14:59
Re: Ovi Maps goes free for premium content (no N900 *yet*)
 
Again the Interwebs are full of mixed information; Endgadget says it's not on the roadmap and I've found at least 2 papers, 1 saying it's coming, 1 saying it's an open question (marketing) but under development already (developer comment). Who knows.

I didn't get N900 for its navigation features. That job is reserved for my Navigon device.

... But I must say, the ability to use the maps without datalink is stellar! I was so frustrated so many times with my iPhone and google maps due to the need of stable datalink. Though as I understand, this feature has been in the Ovi maps from the start.

volt 2010-01-21 15:06
Re: Ovi Maps goes free for premium content (no N900 *yet*)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by johnel (Post 486735)

If you look at bottom of page you see this: "*For your Nokia N900 use Mass storage mode."

I'm desperate to try it but I am at work!

If someone can confirm this works I would be eternally grateful!

If this enables the free version then Nokia management are stupidier than I thought!
Same page says "You're good to go - Your mobile has Nokia Maps preinstalled." So, what do you expect from this page?

I am trying it out anyway. The download installed Nokia "PC Connectivity Solution" and then Nokia Map Loader.

Starting the Map Loader according to instructions, gave the current message: "You have connected at least one phone in mass storage mode. Reconnect your phone and select PC Suite mode."

Doesn't match the instructions.

ddalex 2010-01-21 15:08
Re: Ovi Maps goes free for premium content (no N900 *yet*)
 
5800 owner here; I just updated the firmware to get the new Maps 3.0 application w/ free goodies. let me say i'm at least very disappointed.

- After update, you have to agree that the phone will automatically and without warning send updates to Nokia. There is no other way to go through the screen, not any "Decline" button. Your usage of the device means that you agree to the terms; if you don't, throw away the device.
I wonder who was the genius that thought about this, I wonder if this forceful pushing of new terms is legal (I own the device, they want to make me belive I'm just "licensing" the device from them ?)

- The phone automatically sends SMSes to "My Nokia" to automatically subscribe you to the service. No way to stop them, it doesn't request any permission; the messages are sent prior to acceptance of terms, just after boot.

- Phone regularely crashes now in the Maps application. There is no "Free" option, when the Maps app manage to no crash you're bombarded with the prompt to buy the premium navigation content.

I didn't check any other app yet, but you can bet I'm not gonna buy Nokia again; all these seems like desperate moves from a desperate company.

I don't want my phone to spy on me, I don't want it to make automatic calls to its manufacturer, I don't need free navigation with all these hurdles when cheap programs for other problems solve this problem without all these headaches !

Motorola, Google, even the Jesus phone seem now better option !

johnel 2010-01-21 15:10
Re: Ovi Maps goes free for premium content (no N900 *yet*)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by volt (Post 486747)
Same page says "You're good to go - Your mobile has Nokia Maps preinstalled." So, what do you expect from this page?
Does it just update existing maps and/or does it include the now free "premium" content?

volt 2010-01-21 15:16
Re: Ovi Maps goes free for premium content (no N900 *yet*)
 
"I don't want my phone to spy on me" ... .... "Google" ... ... ...

volt 2010-01-21 15:18
Re: Ovi Maps goes free for premium content (no N900 *yet*)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by johnel (Post 486756)
Does it just update existing maps and/or does it include the now free "premium" content?
Actually I haven't got it working quite yet.
The installation process said Nokia PC Suite was required, then it installed that previously mentioned thing. Trying to install PC Suite manually to see if that makes anything any different.

Nah, I can't get this program talking to the phone. The instructions on the download page mismatches the instructions from the program, mass storage mode vs pc suite mode.

fred123 2010-01-21 15:20
Re: Ovi Maps goes free for premium content (no N900 *yet*)
 
There is an update to a blog entry
http://www.symbian-guru.com/welcome/...e-devices.html

quoting an email from nokia

Quote:
UPDATE: As of last night when I composed this post, I had email confirmation from Nokia that the N97 would *not* be covered initially, but ‘more devices will be added to the list soon’. Apparently, there’s a (somewhat) valid reason the N97 is not covered (that I was not given when I asked specifically about the device), ‘In particular, the Nokia N97 isn’t supported because the Maps 3.3 installer needs (in the order of) 20MB free disk space on C: and this would present problems for many users – a workaround is apparently coming in a week or so, possibly in the form of building Maps 3.3 into the firmware itself, eliminating the need for a separate download
.

so there will be other devices added to the list, hopefully n900 will follow.

smarsh 2010-01-21 15:23
Re: Nokia to offer free navigation??
 
Worth merging this with the other related thread...?

AFAICT, I have turn by turn directions in Ovi Maps 1.0 for Maemo (which as has already been pointed out elsewhere is not related in number to Ovi Maps 3.0 for Symbian or whatever it is). Just tried it and it works for an upcoming trip from Ottawa to Orlando. And that's a long way...

I have Map loader, version 1.4.2 of multimedia transfer and it's working. And if I ask Maps 1.0 on my N900 to plan a route on my downloaded maps it does. Offline. I can live without some idiotic mumblings form the device telling me when to turn, I've managed fine with my N810 and the rather mewling flite speech stuff for years. ANd the functionality on the N900 is far beyond the N810s for navigation (which I used Maemo Mapper on).

Actually, deliriously happy with the navigation capabilities of my device. Free maps, free app, who gives a monkey's if it doesn't speak to me... I don't...

S

jcompagner 2010-01-21 15:25
Re: Nokia to offer free navigation??
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by bonerp (Post 486351)
Seriously can Nokia give me the same superb functionality as my TomTom HD Live?? NO!

Phone navs are ok to get about especially when abroad but if you want something decent, you won't find it on a phone!

My TomTom has rerouting automatically, traffic updates and so much more. But that still cost me £250 and it can't do anything else than tell me where to go (like the wife lol).

ovi maps 3.0 on symbian can do all of that.

cBeam 2010-01-21 15:31
Re: Ovi Maps goes free for premium content (no N900 *yet*)
 
I would calm down a little. It will take a few days to sort everything out.

Here is how I see it:
- I bought an expensive device with the Nokia logo on it
- It was clear to me that the device is in its early stages and will have rough edges
- I expect Nokia to support the device to bring it in line with other high end Nokia devices
- Therfore I expect that they will deliver OVI maps with similar functionality as available on other high end Nokia devices.
- I am okay that it will take a little time given the relatively new OS.

I also expect clarifying statements by Nokia regarding this issue within a few days.

So I have expectations and will wait and see if Nokia is able and willing to fulfill them.

If they do not, then I have to reconsider my stands towards Nokia. But I really expect that they will come up with a good solution, as I believe that customers like me (and most others on this board) who bought an N900 are important for their future sales.

dmcconachie 2010-01-21 15:33
Re: Ovi Maps goes free for premium content (no N900 *yet*)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by cBeam (Post 486800)
I would calm down a little. It will take a few days to sort everything out.

Here is how I see it:
- I bought an expensive device with the Nokia logo on it
- It was clear to me that the device is in its early stages and will have rough edges
- I expect Nokia to support the device to bring it in line with other high end Nokia devices
- Therfore I expect that they will deliver OVI maps with similar functionality as available on other high end Nokia devices.
- I am okay that it will take a little time given the relatively new OS.

I also expect clarifying statements by Nokia regarding this issue within a few days.

So I have expectations and will wait and see if Nokia is able and willing to fulfill them.

If they do not, then I have to reconsider my stands towards Nokia. But I really expect that they will come up with a good solution, as I believe that customers like me (and most others on this board) who bought an N900 are important for their future sales.
Nail on the head! Good post!

johnel 2010-01-21 15:42
Re: Ovi Maps goes free for premium content (no N900 *yet*)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by cBeam (Post 486800)
I would calm down a little. It will take a few days to sort everything out.

Here is how I see it:
- I bought an expensive device with the Nokia logo on it
- It was clear to me that the device is in its early stages and will have rough edges
- I expect Nokia to support the device to bring it in line with other high end Nokia devices
- Therfore I expect that they will deliver OVI maps with similar functionality as available on other high end Nokia devices.
- I am okay that it will take a little time given the relatively new OS.

I also expect clarifying statements by Nokia regarding this issue within a few days.

So I have expectations and will wait and see if Nokia is able and willing to fulfill them.

If they do not, then I have to reconsider my stands towards Nokia. But I really expect that they will come up with a good solution, as I believe that customers like me (and most others on this board) who bought an N900 are important for their future sales.

That's fair enough.
Symbian is the main os supported by Nokia and on many of it's mobile phones. It is a larger installed user base.

However, this quote from the V.P. of Nokia caused alarm for a few people:
"In a call with Michael Halbherr, Nokia's VP of Social Location, we were told that the new Ovi Maps would arrive on the flagship N97 very shortly. It's currently a "software logistics issue" related to the maturity of the N97 device. N900 owners shouldn't hold their breath, though, as Nokia is focusing on bringing its free navigation service to the next generation of Maemo devices. That's not to say that the N900 won't get it eventually, only that it's not currently on the roadmap."

johnel 2010-01-21 15:51
Re: Ovi Maps goes free for premium content (no N900 *yet*)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by volt (Post 486769)
Actually I haven't got it working quite yet.
The installation process said Nokia PC Suite was required, then it installed that previously mentioned thing. Trying to install PC Suite manually to see if that makes anything any different.

Nah, I can't get this program talking to the phone. The instructions on the download page mismatches the instructions from the program, mass storage mode vs pc suite mode.
Oh great! Thanks Nokia you've just proven you do not know "arse from elbow".

Thanks for trying volt.

If the web page suggested to enter "mass storage" mode then it must be a simple file copy of the map data?

kevloral 2010-01-21 15:56
Re: Ovi Maps goes free for premium content (no N900 *yet*)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by johnel (Post 486735)
I've just seen this:http://europe.nokia.com/support/prod...d#/nokia-n900/

If you look at bottom of page you see this: "*For your Nokia N900 use Mass storage mode."

If someone can confirm this works I would be eternally grateful!
Yes, it works. I am downloading right now the maps of all of Europe and Peru, as well as Spanish Female (Spain) voice. That makes 2.3GB of data.

The N900 is connected in mass storage mode and I have Ovi Suite installed (not PC Suite) in my WinXP 32bits SP3:

http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/7335/downloading.png


Greetings.

reviver 2010-01-21 15:56
Re: Ovi Maps goes free for premium content (no N900 *yet*)
 
People really should calm down. I have seen no indication that Nokia has abandoned N900 yet. It simply wasn't on the list like million other Nokia phones and engadget is hardly "reliable source".

How much work do you think has gone to the Symbian version by now? Building a navigation software doesn't happen in a week. And no, you can't just compile Symbian software for Maemo. Nokia is certainly building Maemo based OVI maps that will be as good or better than Symbian ver 3, but give them some time.

N900 is going to be the only Maemo platform for nearly a year. For all those thinking Nokia is only after money, do you think it wouldn't make business sense the test the full OVI maps on N900 before launching the "Maemo for everybody"?

volt 2010-01-21 15:59
Re: Ovi Maps goes free for premium content (no N900 *yet*)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by kevloral (Post 486837)
Yes, it works. I am downloading right now the maps of all of Europe and Peru, as well as Spanish Female (Spain) voice. That makes 2.3GB of data.

The N900 is connected in mass storage mode and I have Ovi Suite installed (not PC Suite) in my WinXP SP3 32bits.
Let me try that instead.

This may take several minutes.
Please wait.

pinsh 2010-01-21 16:01
Re: Ovi Maps goes free for premium content (no N900 *yet*)
 
Free premium maps content on high end phones, smart move Nokia! I predicted this will happen sooner or later when Google announced free voice navigation for Android (in the end Nokia has better navigation data available through NavTeq than Google ATM).

I think the main reason that no newer version of Ovi Maps is available for the N900 is that they are re-writing it using Qt, so they can use the same code for Symbian and Maemo in the future. They probably started writing Ovi Maps for Maemo 5 a while ago (~1 year or so) using GTK and then realized that they will be switching to Qt for Maemo 6, so they didn't put much effort in it and realized some kind of preliminary version when the N900 came out.

Given that Qt 4.6 already runs on Maemo 5 I would be very surprised if they didn't release "Ovi Maps Qt" for Maemo 5 when it is ready.

All this is pure speculation, but it does make a lot of sense in my opinion.

johnel 2010-01-21 16:03
Re: Ovi Maps goes free for premium content (no N900 *yet*)
 
Here is a link to a thread to update ovi maps manually.
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=38872

It does involve copying over existing files so be very, very careful.
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