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benny1967 2010-05-06 11:28

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Originally Posted by rcarlos (Post 646201)
Surprisingly, I hear and read this only in this forum, where as in the real world nothing is mentioned ,and every launch is done with huge fanfare....... Pls refer the hong kong launch recently....the road show video and launch video are on You tube.

I just can tell you that although my country was among the first where the N900 was available at all, I have never seen one single ad in any mass media (tons of ads for the N97 or the "Comes With Music" phones) or in the streets or even in media for people who're more interested in gadgets of this kind. - The only ads were those on the Nokia site itself. Not even the one single carrier that offers the N900 on contract is doing any sort of marketing for it. You see it in the online shop only if you search for it. The only media presence it enjoyed was reviews.

Other models you see in prime time TV commercials. That's marketing.


I'm not aware of any "huge fanfare" in other places, either. The Hong Kong launch was one event in a hotel. - I don't know of anything else. Do they have advertising there?

bjknight 2010-05-06 11:34

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The only ads in the UK are in the windows of Carphone Warehouse and even those have mostly vanished now. It might as well have never existed.

rcarlos 2010-05-06 11:43

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Originally Posted by benny1967 (Post 646261)
I just can tell you that although my country was among the first where the N900 was available at all, I have never seen one single ad in any mass media (tons of ads for the N97 or the "Comes With Music" phones) or in the streets or even in media for people who're more interested in gadgets of this kind. - The only ads were those on the Nokia site itself. Not even the one single carrier that offers the N900 on contract is doing any sort of marketing for it. You see it in the online shop only if you search for it. The only media presence it enjoyed was reviews.

Other models you see in prime time TV commercials. That's marketing.


I'm not aware of any "huge fanfare" in other places, either. The Hong Kong launch was one event in a hotel. - I don't know of anything else. Do they have advertising there?

Actually have seen some of the TV/Film ads...don't recollect them but here is the one from youtube abt a roadshow in HK
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzMOkAocxUM

HugoSon 2010-05-06 12:27

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Originally Posted by benny1967 (Post 639871)
For the first time, the N900 is among the top 5 (most popular) Nokia camera phones on flickr.

...just 3 days later - down to 8 and - more important - the activity factor dropped from 5 down to 2.

slender 2010-05-06 12:35

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Originally Posted by qole (Post 644971)
Another interesting tidbit about Nokia's view of the N900:

Anurag Thakur, the Canadian technology marketing guy for Nokia, said the N900 is considered inside Nokia as a "developer phone" and it was never intended to go mass-market. :eek:

I wonder, Do they have any idea of what their marketing is doing for example in UK? Does Nokia have any idea what is actually happening inside them or around? What kind of management is that? Highly fragmented corporation with itīs every single arm doing what ever they want to do. Nice :)

HugoSon 2010-05-06 12:42

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Originally Posted by slender (Post 646327)
I wonder, Do they have any idea of what their marketing is doing for example in UK? Does Nokia have any idea what is actually happening inside them or around? What kind of management is that? Highly fragmented corporation with itīs every single arm doing what ever they want to do. Nice :)

...you are living in Finland - so you certainly know some Finns working at Nokia - talk with them and you are not wondering anymore. I'm about once a month in Finland and know some Finns working for Nokia - I'm just wondering that they are able to release something - seems to be totally (re-orga after re-orga, in transparent strategy changes, "hardcore developers" finding themselves suddenly in a web project trying to code JS, etc.) chaos.

digital909 2010-05-06 12:48

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In London there has been next to no marketing for this handset which is odd, you'll usually come across some kind of ambient advertising somewhere. At first, I thought this was cool, kind of anti-branding, going for that niche-cool type tag. I did think, though, that they would let people build the device up on the web a bit and then push it again. But nothing, zilch, zero. It just seems like very poor foresight from Nokia. Who the hell does their marketing for them and what exactly are they trying to do?

rcarlos 2010-05-06 12:53

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might be a strategy to get their act together with the updated software and then go in for the volumes

fhofer 2010-05-06 13:11

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Originally Posted by DaSilva (Post 646260)
The following link does not represent how often a device has been sold but you can compare how many internet sites write about something:
http://www.google.de/trends?q=nokia+...ate=all&sort=1
(here the comparison between Nokia N900 and N97).

Quite interesting - I was not aware of this google service. Surprisingly, the Czech Republic (that's where I am from) is #3 country on that list and Czech in #4 language. The strange part is that English is not even in top ten?? :eek:

benny1967 2010-05-06 14:49

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Originally Posted by HugoSon (Post 646311)
...just 3 days later - down to 8 and - more important - the activity factor dropped from 5 down to 2.

that's usual.... it's always been between 7 and 10, sometimes even outside the top ten, but slowly making its way up towards the top 5.

when i posted the screenshot it was the first time i'd seen it among the top five.

even at #10 it'd be pretty amazing for a phone that shouldn't be mass market in the first place. it's supposed to be at #50 or #100.

Crashdamage 2010-05-06 15:26

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Whatever the actual sales numbers are, they're clearly much better than Nokia projected. That despite, as I understand it, little promotion in Europe or Asia and none whatsoever in the US or the rest of North or South America.

Apparently so strong the N900 has kinda changed their strategy. Maemo/MeeGo is no longer a little-known side project for a small group of linux fans within Nokia and Intel. No longer Step 4 of 5 of a series of niche devices.

The N900 apparently convinced both Nokia and Intel there's a real market for MeeGo and to throw some serious resources into it as their future OS for pocket computing. If N900 sales numbers and most feedback were anything less than very good we never would've heard a thing about MeeGo. MeeGo is partly a result of the N900's success.

As far as actual numbers I'd wager the N900 has sold at least as well, worldwide, as the Nexus One. That's amazing!

fgs 2010-05-18 10:44

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Some data from the online high score table of my 100 Boxes game. This will not help guess the absolute numbers, but maybe the distribution by country.

In 5 months, 16,897 game scores have been submitted from 7,305 unique IP addresses from 135 countries. These are the top countries:

United Kingdom 19,1%
Finland 11,2%
United States 8,9%
Germany 6,7%
Netherlands 4,8%
Russian Federation 4,1%
Italy 3,9%
France 3,3%
Sweden 2,4%
China 2,3%
India 1,7%
Norway 1,5%
Saudi Arabia 1,5%
Spain 1,4%
Other 27,3%

Topsku 2010-05-27 18:13

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This might be helpful...or not
http://www.gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=1372013

benny1967 2010-05-28 11:03

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Nokia seems to have corrected Gartner's numbers about "100000 N900s sold in 5 months". Engadget says they have received an update that it was 100000 in the first 5 weeks... So one thing we know for sure: Nokia sold more than 100000 N900s :D

sjgadsby 2010-05-28 13:41

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The thread "n900: what about the sales in the world?" with five posts has been merged into this thread.

Patroclo 2010-05-28 23:59

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I think it's true that Nokia did not sell too many n900's (just a quick question to english people: is it correct to write "n900's" or "n900s" to make the plural?).
Many people I know they even don't know what n900 is. They had never seen it before. In the region where I live (Italy) I could never see the n900 in hypermarkets or superstores (where the majority of people by phones). All the other phones (Nokia and others) are there, except the n900. The n900 is existing just in the Nokia shops.

gerbick 2010-05-29 00:05

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Originally Posted by benny1967 (Post 685296)
Nokia seems to have corrected Gartner's numbers about "100000 N900s sold in 5 months". Engadget says they have received an update that it was 100000 in the first 5 weeks... So one thing we know for sure: Nokia sold more than 100000 N900s :D

Nokia's correction is still ambiguous. I would love to know accurate numbers.

YoDude 2010-05-29 00:12

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Originally Posted by benny1967 (Post 685296)
Nokia seems to have corrected Gartner's numbers about "100000 N900s sold in 5 months". Engadget says they have received an update that it was 100000 in the first 5 weeks... So one thing we know for sure: Nokia sold more than 100000 N900s :D

Any linkage?

Edit: NM, I found it >> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&r...=&oq=&gs_rfai=

YoDude 2010-05-29 00:37

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Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 687071)
Nokia's correction is still ambiguous. I would love to know accurate numbers.

True, they both could be right... after five weeks sales could of gone in the dumper and no one has bought one since. :D

Whatever it is, it's pro'ly less than a million because that number is sort of a milestone and we would have heard about it. Pride driven internal leaks and whatnot.

Crashdamage brings up a valid point about interest. If the numbers were disappointing we may have seen MeeGo corporate involvement by Intel or even Nokia slow or at least see indications that bets were being hedged. I am not aware of any of that happening.

But I really like fgs's picture of the pie regarding distribution by country. Particularly in countries where service providers have a lot of control over sales because of service contracts.

RWFarley 2010-05-29 00:46

Re: Indications on how well the N900 is selling
 
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Originally Posted by Patroclo (Post 687063)
I think it's true that Nokia did not sell too many n900's (just a quick question to english people: is it correct to write "n900's" or "n900s" to make the plural?).
Many people I know they even don't know what n900 is. They had never seen it before. In the region where I live (Italy) I could never see the n900 in hypermarkets or superstores (where the majority of people by phones). All the other phones (Nokia and others) are there, except the n900. The n900 is existing just in the Nokia shops.

Many N900s (plural) have been sold. The N900's (possessive) power is what attcted me to the platform.

48GX 2012-02-02 18:07

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so?

are there any indications or numbers about n900 sales?

teamer 2012-02-02 18:12

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well ... having like million visitor to this site a day says alot !

Estel 2012-02-02 18:44

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In my country, price of second-hand N900's in ideal condition have changed from 150-200$ to 250-300$ in few months. This trend is even bigger, when You consider, than USD become ~10% *stronger* compared to my national currency (so, the trend should be opposite - less dollars needed to compensate for same value in local currency).

I'm pretty sure, that it's caused by Nokian's politics on trashing devices with broken USB port and replacing it with sh|tty things like E7,N8 or N9, + the fact that there is still no real competitive device on market.

/Estel


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