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Dave999 2010-03-08 16:19

Re: what happening with the pr 1.2 update
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sjgadsby (Post 560114)
Nokia aren't in the habit of publicly announcing the release dates of firmware updates in advance, and I haven't seen where they broke form this time. Do you have a link to a firmware release date announcement by Nokia for PR1.2?

If they haven't announced a release date, how can we know whether or not there has been a delay?

.

nokia is always delayed.

like most software projects/releases

noobmonkey 2010-03-08 16:19

Re: what happening with the pr 1.2 update
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ronaldo (Post 560126)
didnt some one from nokia say in nokia forums (or tech support, i cant recall) that UK didnt get the v3 update because it was coming merged with pr 1.2 end of feb/march :confused:

Ahhh the first part.... came from a nokia forum person, but not an official statement.... read into that as you wish

Quote:

that UK didnt get the v3 update because it was coming merged with pr 1.2
The second part, was bob hope at his tricks again and came tricking out.... Allthough yes lots of rumours, and some sensible have been saying April/March.... (Notice april first)....
Still a rumour :D
Quote:

end of feb/march

Ronaldo 2010-03-08 16:20

Re: what happening with the pr 1.2 update
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sjgadsby (Post 560130)
I don't recall seeing such an announcement, but I may have missed it. That's why I asked for a link. Do you have one?

no i didnt save the link but it was posted in the pr 1.1 thread i think, don't quote me

daemonfin 2010-03-08 16:21

Re: what happening with the pr 1.2 update
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ronaldo (Post 560092)
Hey guys just wondering whats happening with the pr 1.2 update if any one knows or i missed the info some where?

i was hoping it would be in the 1st week of march but seems like there is gonna be delays.

Do you guys think its going to be delayed more due to n900 including more things in the update because of the whole meego 1 on n900?

2 things i could do with, turn by turn maps (fingers crossed supports potrait mode) and bug fixes :rolleyes:

like many others i check for updates everyday....sad i know :P

Nokia N900 was designed with focus on use as mobile computer with the telephony as a feature. Hence, the wide support of landscape orientation. Based on consumer feedback, we are adding portrait support in the browser of the Nokia N900, but only our MeeGo 1 software (formerly known as Maemo 6) will have full support of portrait and landscape orientations of all applications.

source:http://mobiletablets.blogspot.com/20...ith-peter.html

Ronaldo 2010-03-08 16:24

Re: what happening with the pr 1.2 update
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by daemonfin (Post 560137)
Nokia N900 was designed with focus on use as mobile computer with the telephony as a feature. Hence, the wide support of landscape orientation. Based on consumer feedback, we are adding portrait support in the browser of the Nokia N900, but only our MeeGo 1 software (formerly known as Maemo 6) will have full support of portrait and landscape orientations of all applications.

source:http://mobiletablets.blogspot.com/20...ith-peter.html

yeh i know this but i personally not bothered about other apps supporting portrait mode. for me it makes sense to have "maps" in portrait mode as almost every car holder sits phone in portrait plus holding phone in landscape while walking with maps would be bit lame...

roger_27 2010-03-08 16:25

Re: what happening with the pr 1.2 update
 
someone looked at the version of the last update and when it was released, and saw the version of the next update and based on its name determined it meant march 22nd.

I have no clue if its right or not, but his logic made sense. so I would wait till march 22nd.

x61 2010-03-08 16:36

Re: what happening with the pr 1.2 update
 
Personally, I have given up on Nokia. I have learned a great lesson with this N900. Don't get me wrong, the phone is good but all I can say is I have given up and all I have now is HOPE.

noobmonkey 2010-03-08 16:41

Re: what happening with the pr 1.2 update
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by x61 (Post 560162)
Personally, I have given up on Nokia. I have learned a great lesson with this N900. Don't get me wrong, the phone is good but all I can say is I have given up and all I have now is HOPE.

bob hope is everywhere i say!!!!

raverpol 2010-03-08 16:46

Re: what happening with the pr 1.2 update
 
OMG don't u have anything better to do than waiting for new firmware?? hehe You can be sure that if it is ready u will see it in your status bar :) If u can't wait just write your own update hehe :)

Dave999 2010-03-08 16:49

Re: what happening with the pr 1.2 update
 
no. updates from nokia is all i live for ;)

jcm6084 2010-03-08 16:57

Re: what happening with the pr 1.2 update
 
Damn it all I want in the update is portrait texting and IM'ing!
That's all I want Nokia!
Pweeeeasee :)

mr_ian84 2010-03-08 17:29

Re: what happening with the pr 1.2 update
 
correct me if i'm wrong but isn't portrait mode supported by pressing ctrl - shift - o in the microb browser and then closing the keyboard?

jackie_jagger 2010-03-08 17:33

Re: what happening with the pr 1.2 update
 
Portrait mode is available in few apps but its not across the OS/UI !! It will NOT come to Maemo 5 although full OS Portrait mode will be supported in MeeGo !!

jcm6084 2010-03-08 17:50

Re: what happening with the pr 1.2 update
 
How much knowledge do you think is required to put meego on the N900? Cause I have limited know how of computers and linux is alien to me :P

ossipena 2010-03-08 18:09

Re: what happening with the pr 1.2 update
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jcm6084 (Post 560254)
How much knowledge do you think is required to put meego on the N900? Cause I have limited know how of computers and linux is alien to me :P

time will tell.

but for example installation of mer isn't so hard.

russo_br 2010-03-08 18:09

Re: what happening with the pr 1.2 update
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ronaldo (Post 560144)
yeh i know this but i personally not bothered about other apps supporting portrait mode. for me it makes sense to have "maps" in portrait mode as almost every car holder sits phone in portrait plus holding phone in landscape while walking with maps would be bit lame...

I think for Ovi Maps it would be simpler to implement portrait mode, since it uses Web Runtime and microb, which already has experimental portrait mode. I don't know the technical details, it is just a guess based on what I read around the web.

russo_br 2010-03-08 18:30

Re: what happening with the pr 1.2 update
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by x61 (Post 560162)
Personally, I have given up on Nokia. I have learned a great lesson with this N900. Don't get me wrong, the phone is good but all I can say is I have given up and all I have now is HOPE.

Nokia is teaching early adopters, anxious by definition, to be more patient and faithful... Some N900 owners didn't make it and sold their devices, while others are hoping things will come.

Reminds me of that Kevin Costner movie "Field of Dreams"... he listened "if you build it they will come..." or something like that. Just in our case is "if you buy it they will come..." :D

russo_br 2010-03-08 18:41

Re: what happening with the pr 1.2 update
 
Moderators/Admins, there is already a thread about PR1.2 speculation, I suggest to merge this one.

sjgadsby 2010-03-08 19:21

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
The thread "what happening with the pr 1.2 update" with thirty-three posts has been merged into this thread.

sajman 2010-03-08 19:37

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
whats it with every1 banging on about portrait mode. i dont even use it when im calling someone. keybpard usually hangs out still. id never use any app be it game, music player or web browser in portrait. i think its a waste of this lovely landscape setup!!!

efekt 2010-03-08 19:40

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
LOL the tags for this thread are hilarious! :)

w107kam 2010-03-08 20:05

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
I wish I could play my movies using the media player

cduv 2010-03-08 20:20

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
I don't know if someone has posted this info, but I found an interesting comment in Virtual Reality blog about Tinymail 1.0 release. In the last paragraph http://blogs.igalia.com/svillar/2010...-1-0-released/:

Quote:

For those of you having a Nokia N900 this release contains more or less the same code shipped within your device (remember that Modest, the email program, is tinymail powered). For all people that followed the progresses in tinymail I blogged about recently (here, here or here) you will have to wait for v1.2 release. I promise you won’t have to wait that much…
If he does this comment means that he knows whenwill be released and also that is near the release date.... What do you think?

Viipottaja 2010-03-08 20:25

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
"that much" is quite subjective.. plus out of his control; so could be anything from a day to 3 months at least.. :) still, yeah, I hope it really is not that much (for me that's 2-3 weeks max.. lol)!

mobiledivide 2010-03-08 20:27

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
Nokians and some other higher ups already are running 1.2 so it is definitely in code freeze and probably in final testing before release. Barring showstopping bugs it will probably be released within the next few weeks. I am not expecting huge changes, my only wishes are for better power optimization and better implementation of portrait browser (which I find I use more than I expected to). Oh and Flash 10.1 wouldn't be a terrible addition either :p

Quote:

Originally Posted by cduv (Post 560411)
I don't know if someone has posted this info, but I found an interesting comment in Virtual Reality blog about Tinymail 1.0 release. In the last paragraph http://blogs.igalia.com/svillar/2010...-1-0-released/:



If he does this comment means that he knows whenwill be released and also that is near the release date.... What do you think?


casper27 2010-03-08 20:29

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
As per my previous post in one of the other speculation threads.

Quote Andre Klapper
"This has been fixed in package
hildon-desktop 1:2.2.132-1+0m5
which is part of the internal build version
10.2010.07-3
(Note: 2009/2010 is the year, and the number after is the week.)"

We have got a week 2 release (3.2010.2-8) in week 7 on Feb 16th. So following that timescale a week 7 release (10.2010.07-3) will be in week 12. Which is week commencing Mar 22nd..

Viipottaja 2010-03-08 20:35

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mobiledivide (Post 560422)
Nokians and some other higher ups already are running 1.2

Oh cool! Do you know this from personal contact or have they commented to that effect e.g. on this forum?

Anyway, can't wait, hope there are a lot of small tweaks - I too am not expecting or needing massive changes! :)

TigerTael 2010-03-08 20:37

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
Getting my N900 tomorrow or the next day, really want turn by turn navigation, haha!

I wonder which side of the great divide I'll be on.

jackie_jagger 2010-03-08 20:39

Re: what happening with the pr 1.2 update
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 560253)
Yes, but it's not saying in what version...could be in version 9...

This and this and this will be supported in meego. We want specifics. :D:o:):mad::confused::(:p;):rolleyes::cool::eek:.

No peter said Maemo 6/MeeGO will support potrait mode and also they are more interested in integrating Ovi services in MeeGo rather than maemo 5 !!
sad I know ...but its a fact!

Viipottaja 2010-03-08 20:47

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
Don't worry, Nokia or the community will make Meego run on N900 too! :) [My guess]

squirreluk 2010-03-08 21:00

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
sorry which version you waiting for, im on 3.2010.2.8 got this phone as a replacement three weeks ago.

russo_br 2010-03-08 21:10

Re: what happening with the pr 1.2 update
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jackie_jagger (Post 560443)
No peter said Maemo 6/MeeGO will support potrait mode and also they are more interested in integrating Ovi services in MeeGo rather than maemo 5 !!
sad I know ...but its a fact!

Nokia customer service and related FAQs stated that N900 will have Ovi Maps turn-by-turn navigation and also that Ovi Suite and Services were being discussed with the Maemo team to implement support for N900. I also asked about Ovi Maps on Ovi official blog and a Nokia employee confirmed that they are working on it, here is the link:

http://blog.ovi.com/2010/03/02/new-p...bile/#comments

I was pessimistic and worried about N900 future, even being accused of spreading FUD. Now I chilled out a bit and I am hoping that Nokia keeps its word. @qgil already mentioned a lot of times that there will be more information about N900 future plans when both PR1.2 and Harmattan Alpha SDK are released (and both probably by the end of this month), so let's wait for it....

Maybe the focus on Meego for Ovi Services, Ovi Maps and other enhancements means that Nokia intend to support Meego on N900 but won't tell owners right now due to business strategy, technical difficulties or whatever other reasons, we will have to wait... Just keep one thing in mind, Nokia isn't a novice company who has no experience on the mobile market, and Meego will run in competitor hardware as well, so I am SURE that Nokia management is aware they will loose loyal customers if they just let N900 on their own, and most of them are early adopters and thus have influence on average users opinion.

russo_br 2010-03-08 21:29

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mobiledivide (Post 560422)
Nokians and some other higher ups already are running 1.2 so it is definitely in code freeze and probably in final testing before release. Barring showstopping bugs it will probably be released within the next few weeks. I am not expecting huge changes, my only wishes are for better power optimization and better implementation of portrait browser (which I find I use more than I expected to). Oh and Flash 10.1 wouldn't be a terrible addition either :p

@mobiledivide,

Can you please share how do you know the PR1.2 is already being tested by nokians and the community? I suspect this may be right due to the expected launch by the end of March, but so for I didn't hear anything about code freezing for PR1.2.

ABerri 2010-03-08 21:32

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
I just hope the Baseband issue is fixed because I keep getting that "No Sim" icon randomly and it can get quite frustrating. I flashed repeadeatly using NSU and it doesn't change a thing.

I couldn't flash using Maemo Flasher cos I have Windows Vista 64-Bit and even if I select at startup to "Disable driver signature enforcement" it still doesn't work.

All I get is "No Suitable USB Device found...waiting" and you should wait about 3 minutes or so but I've waited more than 20 mins and nothing happens. Oh well...I guess I will try to flash the Global Firmware on a Windows XP computer since that's the Firmware I'm trying to get and with NSU, you can't choose what firmware you want so it's annoying.

russo_br 2010-03-08 21:38

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by casper27 (Post 560428)
As per my previous post in one of the other speculation threads.

Quote Andre Klapper
"This has been fixed in package
hildon-desktop 1:2.2.132-1+0m5
which is part of the internal build version
10.2010.07-3
(Note: 2009/2010 is the year, and the number after is the week.)"

We have got a week 2 release (3.2010.2-8) in week 7 on Feb 16th. So following that timescale a week 7 release (10.2010.07-3) will be in week 12. Which is week commencing Mar 22nd..

I searched bugzilla but not in details. Do you know if there is any mention to an internal build for week 08 or later? Can we know in advance what is the build version that was defined for any firmware update like PR1.2? I guess just through inside information or waiting for the release, isn't it?

shanrizvi 2010-03-08 22:49

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
So basically, nobody has a clue! :P A month earlier, everyone seemed to be quite positive that PR 1.2 would arrive around the end of February.

noobmonkey 2010-03-08 23:34

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shanrizvi (Post 560567)
So basically, nobody has a clue! :P A month earlier, everyone seemed to be quite positive that PR 1.2 would arrive around the end of February.

not really, you just chose to believe those posts........

Nokia do not give release dates....

People like rumours....
A rumour spreads that it may be April/March ... (Notice april first)...
Next post then says early march..... the next says end feb/early march.... and then someone started giving dates.... - pretty impressive after noting the first point... Nokia dont give dates...

Casper is the closest with a guess, they try to put dates in the packs... but they can be different to the actual dates, and they can be target dates.....

What we do know is... there are lots of bugs in bugzilla being fixed :) - so a fix should come out sooner or later :D

maxximuscool 2010-03-08 23:54

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by noobmonkey (Post 560607)
not really, you just chose to believe those posts........

Nokia do not give release dates....

People like rumours....
A rumour spreads that it may be April/March ... (Notice april first)...
Next post then says early march..... the next says end feb/early march.... and then someone started giving dates.... - pretty impressive after noting the first point... Nokia dont give dates...

Casper is the closest with a guess, they try to put dates in the packs... but they can be different to the actual dates, and they can be target dates.....

What we do know is... there are lots of bugs in bugzilla being fixed :) - so a fix should come out sooner or later :D

I know the exact year of this update release!!

Warning spoiler:
The official Nokia plans to release this PR1.2 sometimes this year the earliest or the latest will be next year.

So we all got this year to look out for it :D I know I am correct on the ETA of this update. Source? Me!! lol

russo_br 2010-03-09 02:45

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by maxximuscool (Post 560623)
I know the exact year of this update release!!

Warning spoiler:
The official Nokia plans to release this PR1.2 sometimes this year the earliest or the latest will be next year.

So we all got this year to look out for it :D I know I am correct on the ETA of this update. Source? Me!! lol

It will be released on the next Xmas distributed through Santa Claus own SW repository, but only for those who behave well during this year and never posted any comment about Nokia delays.... :cool:

mobiledivide 2010-03-09 03:09

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by russo_br (Post 560500)
@mobiledivide,

Can you please share how do you know the PR1.2 is already being tested by nokians and the community? I suspect this may be right due to the expected launch by the end of March, but so for I didn't hear anything about code freezing for PR1.2.

@Russo_br sorry for not having specifics, I just remember the comment from the irc or maybe on the forums somewhere...no links unfortunately. The update will come one day and hopefully more later :)


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