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benny1967 2010-02-28 11:27

Re: Angry Birds Levelpack back in OVI-Store (Edit: and now not, again...)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tuminoid (Post 549721)
The problem with distributing plain debs are obviously how difficult it is for end-user to install them.

Wrong. With the new firmware, debs show up with the debian-icon in the file manager. One single tap on the deb-file (as normal user, of course, not root) will open the application manager and install the file.

10x easier than it was with red pill mode. And they removed red pill mode because they said users shouldn't easily be able to install applications that aren't in a proper repository.

jcompagner 2010-02-28 12:01

Re: Angry Birds Levelpack back in OVI-Store (Edit: and now not, again...)
 
maybe i just think to easy but why not keep repo's keep everything, users can just apt get everything but then the software is just in shareware or demo mode? and only if you pay through ovi, ovi wil inject a serial number in the software based on imei?

the payed software just have to implement some interface so that ovi store knows what todo when its getting payed.

ofcourse this is crackable but what isnt in the end.?
for most normal users this will mean they cant just copy.

tuminoid 2010-02-28 12:10

Re: Angry Birds Levelpack back in OVI-Store (Edit: and now not, again...)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by benny1967 (Post 549743)
Wrong. With the new firmware, debs show up with the debian-icon in the file manager. One single tap on the deb-file (as normal user, of course, not root) will open the application manager and install the file.

10x easier than it was with red pill mode. And they removed red pill mode because they said users shouldn't easily be able to install applications that aren't in a proper repository.

Ah, I wasn't aware of this change and judging by the comments on this thread, many others don't either.

dragly 2010-02-28 12:17

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tuminoid: As Benny said, it is easy to install debs now - which is a good thing, although I completely agree with you. The best thing would be a personal repository with only the applications you have paid for available.

I believe most users would pay just for the convenience of not having to hassle with anything more advanced than the app manager, and to get on-the-fly updates of their apps. With stand-alone debs the latter is a huge issue in terms of security updates (although I don't believe that games like Angry Birds exposes the biggest security holes - except for the one where all the pigs hacked my phone after I finished level 16, but thats another story :D )

I hope they are working on a repository solution. That would be awesome!

ewan 2010-02-28 12:41

Re: Angry Birds Levelpack back in OVI-Store (Edit: and now not, again...)
 
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Originally Posted by MohammadAG (Post 549462)
I'm sure it was pulled down for other reasons, one being the fact that the deb can be uploaded by anyone and everyone on the internet can install it.

DRM doesn't work. DRM has never worked. DRM can never work. DRM will never work.

When did people start assuming that everything has to have DRM, and that having it helps at all? It's perfectly possible to sell software with no DRM and do well with it - you're still going to get copyright infringement, but, given the speed with which DRM always gets cracked, not necessarily any more than you would otherwise. Meanwhile you avoid pissing off a large chunk of your would-be customers with pointless arbitrary restrictions, and quite possibly selling more stuff in the first place.

On another note; has anyone tried installing a non-repository hosted .deb from OVI, backing up their device, reflashing it, and restoring? AIUI the backup system reinstalls apps by re-installing them from the repositiories - does something delivered this way survive the process?

tuminoid 2010-02-28 12:53

Re: Angry Birds Levelpack back in OVI-Store (Edit: and now not, again...)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ewan (Post 549803)
On another note; has anyone tried installing a non-repository hosted .deb from OVI, backing up their device, reflashing it, and restoring? AIUI the backup system reinstalls apps by re-installing them from the repositiories - does something delivered this way survive the process?

It survives as a deb package on your eMMC, you need to manually reinstall it again.

Arif 2010-02-28 19:08

Re: Angry Birds Levelpack back in OVI-Store (Edit: and now not, again...)
 
Well, it's already spread on wares sites...I guess Rovio won't be too happy about that :(

HtheB 2010-02-28 20:19

Re: Angry Birds Levelpack back in OVI-Store (Edit: and now not, again...)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Arif (Post 550120)
Well, it's already spread on wares sites...I guess Rovio won't be too happy about that :(

The Angry Birds for iPhone is out for ages... (warez)

So..... Why would they suddenly be "mad" at the N900 users?

There are still many people who will buy it. Including me.

I really like this game! :)

oh btw, Arif.. aren't you the one that promotes warez?..
:D
http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23mae...02-27T00:45:13

Seawolf 2010-02-28 20:35

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But isn't the angry birds iphone app much more popular than the n900 one?

it is going to be be hard to even find the level pack for n900 on warez sites because probably no one will bother uploading it. :)

Arif 2010-02-28 22:27

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Originally Posted by HtheB (Post 550212)
The Angry Birds for iPhone is out for ages... (warez)

So..... Why would they suddenly be "mad" at the N900 users?

There are still many people who will buy it. Including me.

I really like this game! :)

oh btw, Arif.. aren't you the one that promotes warez?..
:D
http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23mae...02-27T00:45:13

Haha, yeah that's me. :p

But no I don't promote warez :) And especially not something cheap as this :p

Psymastr 2010-03-01 05:21

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what kind of sucks though is that I really want to buy this level pack and cant. i wish I could just donate the money to rovio and they send me the deb or whatever... :(

nath 2010-03-01 07:27

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Really... first everyone complains about DRM and now that we get a mobile store not using DRM, everybody complains about that as well.
Since when has a copy protection scheme done anything else than alienating the paying customers?

That said, the payment in the ovi store needs to be sorted out fast.

sygys 2010-03-01 07:33

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great!! .... but where is the pay by phone bill option??? not everyone has a freaking credit card you know! Maybe the americans do! they pay everthing with plastic! but here in holland its good old cash!

roney711 2010-03-01 07:33

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almost done with level pack 1.. when second pack is coming ?

ossipena 2010-03-01 07:44

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Originally Posted by wmarone (Post 548496)
Did you try to buy your N900 through the Nokia store and subsequently have issues with your card(s) being denied?

yes, exactly.

e: I have to take my words back: at least the payment worked :D

varaus = reservation

varattu = reserved

Seawolf 2010-03-01 18:48

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All those discussions about DRM and piracy and bla bla, and there are still no pirated copies of the level pack on the internet :)

Hossie 2010-03-02 11:27

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I just checked my credit card online and I have the correct value of 2,99€ on my bill.

YoDude 2010-03-02 12:37

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Originally Posted by sygys (Post 550684)
great!! .... but here in holland its good old cash!

Or Tulips. :p

Flandry 2010-03-02 15:31

Re: Angry Birds Levelpack back in OVI-Store (Edit: and now not, again...)
 
(A) This has gone really off-topic
(B) Also is now infringing on the Rule

Discussion of the definition of "piracy" and such moved to this thread:

Please take further discussion of the topic there.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sygys (Post 550684)
great!! .... but where is the pay by phone bill option??? not everyone has a freaking credit card you know! Maybe the americans do! they pay everthing with plastic! but here in holland its good old cash!

Or cell phones, apparently... :rolleyes: That's...enlightened. :D

MonkeyCowboy 2010-03-02 21:48

Re: Angry Birds Levelpack back in OVI-Store (Edit: and now not, again...)
 
There are some wallpapers now available in the ovi store that you can purchase... why not the level pack?

Modell900 2010-03-03 21:43

Re: Angry Birds Levelpack back in OVI-Store (Edit: and now not, again...)
 
I got the pack just in time before they pulled it off again...

But had some weird things going on after it was installed.

Some pretty weird lag on different levels making it almost unplayable so my guess is a memory leak or something like that, donīt have a log to confirm it though.
Also the game crashed on me more then one time after the pack were installed.

Also check this screenshot, I cleared the whole game and after the latest crash the game in some strange way "reset" itself resulting in locked levels even though I cleared them already...

http://media.share.ovi.com/m1/s/1815...86601277c6.jpg

So maybe the levelpack wasnīt as optimized as they thought and therefore withdrew it?

Well, lets just hope it will be back and they give us the extra worlds other phones got as well.

Miika 2010-03-04 08:26

Re: Angry Birds Levelpack back in OVI-Store (Edit: and now not, again...)
 
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Originally Posted by Modell900 (Post 554715)
But had some weird things going on after it was installed.

Have you been playing custom levels before or after buying the level pack? That would explain the game flow getting broken.

The level pack shouldn't be able to create any lag or any other regression to the quality of game play because it's just a bunch of levels. It doesn't change the actual game at all.

Could you send me on email the files so I could see why this happens:
/var/opt/rovio/angrybirds/highscores.lua
/var/opt/rovio/angrybirds/settings.lua

kill_bill 2010-03-04 08:33

Re: Angry Birds Levelpack back in OVI-Store (Edit: and now not, again...)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Seawolf (Post 551405)
All those discussions about DRM and piracy and bla bla, and there are still no pirated copies of the level pack on the internet :)

Sorry to say you're wrong! :rolleyes:

Modell900 2010-03-04 08:56

Re: Angry Birds Levelpack back in OVI-Store (Edit: and now not, again...)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Miika (Post 555134)
Have you been playing custom levels before or after buying the level pack? That would explain the game flow getting broken.

The level pack shouldn't be able to create any lag or any other regression to the quality of game play because it's just a bunch of levels. It doesn't change the actual game at all.

Could you send me on email the files so I could see why this happens:
/var/opt/rovio/angrybirds/highscores.lua
/var/opt/rovio/angrybirds/settings.lua

Nope, no custom levels and no extras-dev stuff, just the original install and the level pack.
I will try get the time to dig out the lua files, kind of busy at work ;)

mve 2010-03-04 09:00

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I did see also some lag on some random levels. I would guess that it was a swap issue or some widget did it's update procedure same time I was playing the game. There was no high processor usage when I went to desktop to check cpu applet and when I come back to game everything was fine again. I didn't do any further checks as I managed to get *** on all levels.

Modell900 2010-03-04 09:06

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Quote:

I didn't do any further checks as I managed to get *** on all levels.
Screens or it never happened ;D

mve 2010-03-04 09:35

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Originally Posted by Modell900 (Post 555168)
Screens or it never happened ;D

Of course my friend :D

cashclientel 2010-03-04 09:41

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Originally Posted by Modell900 (Post 555168)
Screens or it never happened ;D

Just wanted to big myself up.

Modell900 2010-03-04 09:42

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Awesome! Damn I got to work on my scores...

Where is that damn assistant to take away some workload?

ossipena 2010-03-16 08:32

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I have still reservations in my credit card. Contacted twice to nokia and now contacted to my credit card company.

I will be preferring paypal in the future and probably will skip angry birds level packs because of this as a collateral... ...unless level packs can be bought outside ovi store...

muto 2010-03-16 08:47

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I will check if i still have these reservations.

cashclientel 2010-03-16 09:20

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where's the rest of the levels for angry birds? there's over 100 on the iphone version!

is it possible to transfer over the .lua level files?

Martyman 2010-03-17 08:55

Re: Angry Birds Levelpack back in OVI-Store (Edit: and now not, again...)
 
Yes! Finally got 3 stars on all levels across the base and extra levels!

Some of them were quite a challenge.

Tiptronic 2010-03-17 15:04

Re: Angry Birds Levelpack back in OVI-Store (Edit: and now not, again...)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by muto (Post 568844)
I will check if i still have these reservations.

how do you reserve it?

sanki 2010-03-22 15:42

Re: Angry Birds Levelpack back in OVI-Store (Edit: and now not, again...)
 
If Sygic managed to sell its Maps app, how can Rovio not find a way of properly selling the Angry Birds levelpacks? What's the difference?

NvyUs 2010-03-22 15:48

Re: Angry Birds Levelpack back in OVI-Store (Edit: and now not, again...)
 
last night i re-flashed my device and i forgot that i cant re-get the level pack add-on from ovi store so now i'm without something i purchased b/c Nokia and b/c of nokia i was overcharged for it to begin with lol

bockersjv 2010-03-22 15:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by NvyUs (Post 577309)
last night i re-flashed my device and i forgot that i cant re-get the level pack add-on from ovi store so now i'm without something i purchased b/c Nokia and b/c of nokia i was overcharged for it to begin with lol


I am in a similar position. Had my phone replaced due to usb socket issue and now I have lost my level packs :( Will email Rovio to see what they suggest. Lost hoops too :(

Matthaus 2010-03-22 15:53

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I gave up waiting for this and its silly high price so i got it on my work iphone for Ģ0.59

Daywalker 2010-03-25 14:26

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Moderator: Will hopefully read the rule before his one week ban is over.

wildt 2010-04-07 18:15

Re: Angry Birds Levelpack back in OVI-Store (Edit: and now not, again...)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bockersjv (Post 577317)
I am in a similar position. Had my phone replaced due to usb socket issue and now I have lost my level packs :( Will email Rovio to see what they suggest. Lost hoops too :(

I'm in the very same situation - how did Rovio respond to your mail?


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