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rickysio

2010-05-02 14:33

Re: What works better in the PR1.2

Quote:

Originally Posted by Enyibinakata (Post 638439)

So PR 1.2 update does improve the device significantly ? If so then I have a feeling that those who dumped n900 recently will have much to regret.

Depends on how you view it. Some people just don't like how Maemo works. I did have one 'wow that's not my cup of tea' comment from a friend after seeing me invoke xterminal.

The Quote Train

2010-05-02 14:38

Re: What works better in the PR1.2

can someone check the web version of gmail.

in previous firmware it would be choppy, wouldn't always open emails when you repeatedly hit the email topic with the stylus, the interface for writing would laaag etc

Crashdamage

2010-05-02 14:38

Re: What works better in the PR1.2

Quote:

Originally Posted by AtteK0 (Post 638427)

That is what happens when you do not quote the whole post.

I quoted your entire post #91 in my reply #104.

Quote:

I said this update we all got may be an old one.

Not in post #91. You said, in it's entirety:
"The update PR1.2 has been ready for months. It has not been released because we have to wait for something for us to be even a little excited with our half-dead OSs. After this, there probably won´t be any updates for the N900 Maemo 5 ever again. Meego and Symbian^3 and all the coders are probably sucked to those projects..."
None of which you have shown to be true.

Quote:

...why are you so cranky :D

Really tired of FUD.

Quote:

The update has been ready for release for weeks.

Again, a source?

oxford

2010-05-02 14:41

Re: What works better in the PR1.2

The email client (Modest) no longer hides the folders and messages while it picks up new messages (which meant that if you were on a slow connection it looked like you had lost all your messages).

However, it still does not upload sent messages to IMAP server, and it still searches all folders for updates instead of letting you specify folders to search, so every update for me takes almost a minute... pretty pathetic really for an internet device.

rickysio

2010-05-02 14:42

Re: What works better in the PR1.2

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Quote Train (Post 638453)

Full GMail or html only GMail?

petr295

2010-05-02 14:49

Re: What works better in the PR1.2

And what about HD resolution in recording:-)?

AtteK0

2010-05-02 14:50

Re: What works better in the PR1.2

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crashdamage (Post 638456)

I quoted your entire post #91 in my reply #104.

Not in post #91. You said, in it's entirety:
"The update PR1.2 has been ready for months. It has not been released because we have to wait for something for us to be even a little excited with our half-dead OSs. After this, there probably won´t be any updates for the N900 Maemo 5 ever again. Meego and Symbian^3 and all the coders are probably sucked to those projects..."
None of which you have shown to be true.

Really tired of FUD.

Again, a source?

Again, I figured out people would not take me seriously. My comments were meant to start up conversation, not make people angry. I am sorry if I lack sources.

The facts are these: PR1.2 SDK has existed since March and has had no serious bugs. So what for haven´t we had it on our devices really makes you think if Nokia releases everything the instant something is ready for release.

The tactical side is this: Maemo 5 is dying. The successor Meego was released. They are making quick progress with it (remember Day One?) which means something sucks the resources from Maemo. That is all.

It is good that you responded, I did not say clearly enough that my comments were mainly speculation.

AtteK0

2010-05-02 14:57

Re: What works better in the PR1.2

To another subject, moving large files from the internal memory to the mircoSD is less vulnerable to crashes and freezing than it used to be.

rickysio

2010-05-02 14:57

Re: What works better in the PR1.2

Quote:

Originally Posted by petr295 (Post 638476)

And what about HD resolution in recording:-)?

Unlikely - Nokia won't want to steal the N8's thunder.

The Quote Train

2010-05-02 14:59

Re: What works better in the PR1.2

Quote:

Originally Posted by rickysio (Post 638464)

Full GMail or html only GMail?

hmmm...the default one that loads when you got to www.gmail.com

I'm guessing full?

joal888

2010-05-02 15:02

Re: What works better in the PR1.2

apt-get install --reinstall mp-fremantle-003-pr doesnt work anymore after overclocking.. anyone have answers to this?

rickysio

2010-05-02 15:03

Re: What works better in the PR1.2

Quote:

Originally Posted by joal888 (Post 638514)

apt-get install --reinstall mp-fremantle-003-pr doesnt work anymore after overclocking.. anyone have answers to this?

Very likely that you will have to change 003 to something else, because it is not PR 1.1.1 anymore?

viraptor

2010-05-02 15:05

Re: What works better in the PR1.2

Location is just great now! It's more accurate and locks in 2-3 secs. And ovi maps are a bit more smooth this time.

rickysio

2010-05-02 15:09

Re: What works better in the PR1.2

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Quote Train (Post 638508)

hmmm...the default one that loads when you got to www.gmail.com

I'm guessing full?

Quite smooth - however when I click on a mail it takes roughly ~1 seconds to load. Don't be impatient like me and start going crazy with tapping - the thing gave me 5 new windows in revenge.

Text entry is instantaneous now, though.

johnny_knoe

2010-05-02 15:11

Re: What works better in the PR1.2

Is there anything special to do to enable skype video calling? I started a skype voice call but got no video button on my screen like an those screenshots already posted.

Thanks!

oxford

2010-05-02 15:13

Re: What works better in the PR1.2

Another (small but useful) positive improvement is when you "long press" (in lack of a better word) on a link in a web page for the menu to pop up. It would often not work the first time you tried, or sometimes it would not register on the link (this was always the case with news.bbc.co.uk/low ). The result was that if you selected "Open in new window" it would not open link but just re-open the page itself. Now it works all the time even on BBC site, much easier to open links in new windows.

AtteK0

2010-05-02 15:14

Re: What works better in the PR1.2

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnny_knoe (Post 638548)

Is there anything special to do to enable skype video calling? I started a skype voice call but got no video button on my screen like an those screenshots already posted.

Thanks!

I got the video-call menu after one video-call was made. I press the skype-contact and find three choises instead of the previous two.

I called from my computer to the N900 as a video call which gave it some sort of "kick" to start working...

rickysio

2010-05-02 15:14

Re: What works better in the PR1.2

Hmm, I'm not sure - I don't use Skype too often, and have now forgotten my password, and can't be arsed to register again.

Look around for a start video button, though.

joal888

2010-05-02 15:16

Re: What works better in the PR1.2

Quote:

Originally Posted by rickysio (Post 638519)

Very likely that you will have to change 003 to something else, because it is not PR 1.1.1 anymore?

tried 001, 002, 003, generic.. is there more you suppose?

rolan900d

2010-05-02 15:17

Re: What works better in the PR1.2

Quote:

Originally Posted by D-Iivil (Post 638311)

Does your screen calibration crash after first press of the sircle? Mine does.

No issues over here!

x61	2010-05-02 15:18

Re: What works better in the PR1.2

It would be great to have some screenshots of some of the new features/changes deamed interesting with PR1.2

rickysio

2010-05-02 15:18

Re: What works better in the PR1.2

Overclocking kernels will screw your screen calibration.

rickysio

2010-05-02 15:18

Re: What works better in the PR1.2

Quote:

Originally Posted by joal888 (Post 638567)

tried 001, 002, 003, generic.. is there more you suppose?

004? Maybe it'd only work when Nokia releases PR 1.2? :confused:

Crashdamage

2010-05-02 15:19

Re: What works better in the PR1.2

Quote:

Originally Posted by AtteK0 (Post 638481)

The facts are these: PR1.2 SDK has existed since March and has had no serious bugs. So what for haven´t we had it on our devices really makes you think if Nokia releases everything the instant something is ready for release.

Quote:

The tactical side is this: Maemo 5 is dying. The successor Meego was released.

All OSs are dying even before they're released. You think Apple doesn't already have the replacement for the iPhone 4G OS in the works? Only a development version of MeeeGo has been released. It's released because unlike Windows or OS-X or even Android, MeeGo is a true open-source project so early development work is out there for all to see instead of behind guarded doors.

Quote:

They are making quick progress with it (remember Day One?) which means something sucks the resources from Maemo. That is all.

Somewhat, no doubt. But Nokia and Intel have stated - and given their size it's reasonable to believe them - that they have sufficient resources to work on more than one project at a time. I've seen no reason yet to doubt Nokia's stated commitment to N900 owners that the N900/Maemo will not be soon forgotten. Nokia has stated several times that full support for Maemo 5 will continue for a quite a while, exactly how long is unknown. But it's only reasonable that at some point support will end.

Quote:

It is good that you responded, I did not say clearly enough that my comments were mainly speculation.

Understood, and no offense was intended. But everyone posting here - or really anywhere on the 'net - should be careful what they say. Your 'speculation' was stated as if facts, and people believe what they see.

I suppose I'm kinda making an example outta you here - but hey, I guess it's just your lucky day...

God's Toy

2010-05-02 15:21

Re: What works better in the PR1.2

Quote:

Originally Posted by rickysio (Post 638410)

FM radio still works for both. Youtube... Let me try.

.

Thanks for the reply!

Remember the error we had when you powered the Device, the output power of the transmitter would go to hell? Has that been fixed?

rickysio

2010-05-02 15:34

Re: What works better in the PR1.2

Quote:

Originally Posted by God's Toy (Post 638584)

Thanks for the reply!

Remember the error we had when you powered the Device, the output power of the transmitter would go to hell? Has that been fixed?

Don't really know the error - I rarely use my FM transmitter.

Amusing to note that Maemo 5 under uninstall section specifically lists "Portrait Browsing, Internet video calling, e-mail widget, email and calender improvements, virtual keyboard renewal, and Application Menu UI update.

God's Toy

2010-05-02 15:36

Re: What works better in the PR1.2

Quote:

Originally Posted by rickysio (Post 638595)

Don't really know the error - I rarely use my FM transmitter.

Thanks anyway :)

kingzeus

2010-05-02 15:55

Re: What works better in the PR1.2

How do we use the pen in text message or do i have to switch to chinese language?

AtteK0

2010-05-02 15:56

Re: What works better in the PR1.2

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crashdamage (Post 638575)

An SDK is not the same as an OS ready for release. And I'm certain Nokia would like to please everyone by pushing PR1.2 out as soon as possible. They're under tremendous pressure right now to do so. I'm also certain they're very aware of the possible horrible consequences of pushing out PR1.2 before it's ready. IOW, better safe than sorry.

All OSs are dying even before they're released. You think Apple doesn't already have the replacement for the iPhone 4G OS in the works? Only a development version of MeeeGo has been released. It's released because unlike Windows or OS-X or even Android, MeeGo is a true open-source project so early development work is out there for all to see instead of behind guarded doors.

Somewhat, no doubt. But Nokia and Intel have stated - and given their size it's reasonable to believe them - that they have sufficient resources to work on more than one project at a time. I've seen no reason yet to doubt Nokia's stated commitment to N900 owners that the N900/Maemo will not be soon forgotten. Nokia has stated several times that full support for Maemo 5 will continue for a quite a while, exactly how long is unknown. But it's only reasonable that at some point support will end.

Understood, and no offense was intended. But everyone posting here - or really anywhere on the 'net - should be careful what they say. Your 'speculation' was stated as if facts, and people believe what they see.

I suppose I'm kinda making an example outta you here - but hey, I guess it's just your lucky day...

In the end all is about the money, you cannot deny that. Actively developing several different systems is defifnitely not cheap, which will allways result in extermination of the old ones. I am glad I aroused some conversation around here.

Besides, where are your links to the sources? SOURCES? :D

AtteK0

2010-05-02 15:58

Re: What works better in the PR1.2

The FM-transmitter still loses power when charged :(

God's Toy

2010-05-02 16:00

Re: What works better in the PR1.2

Quote:

Originally Posted by AtteK0 (Post 638626)

The FM-transmitter still loses power when charged :(

Dammit! Oh well maybe next update...

Thanks for trying!

tissot

2010-05-02 16:01

Re: What works better in the PR1.2

Quote:

Originally Posted by rickysio (Post 638502)

Unlikely - Nokia won't want to steal the N8's thunder.

I can tell you right away that N900 will have bigger and very different market.

slender

2010-05-02 16:05

Re: What works better in the PR1.2

Quote:

Originally Posted by tissot (Post 638633)

I can tell you right away that N900 will have bigger and very different market.

I really really doubt that. N900 is for niche market but this rather cheap n8 will probably sell in huge numbers. It doesn't even have to be better than its rivals because of supply chain, but that´s completely another story and thing that almost all blog writers from north America do not realize. Different yes but bigger...no :|

Laughingstok

2010-05-02 16:07

Re: What works better in the PR1.2

How's the laundry app working?

I'm very curious about this.

SAABoy

2010-05-02 16:10

Re: What works better in the PR1.2

is this a test run reaction to a firmware update? ... because I dont have a flashing yellow box in my status bar...

Laughingstok

2010-05-02 16:12

Re: What works better in the PR1.2

Quote:

Originally Posted by SAABoy (Post 638643)

is this a test run reaction to a firmware update? ... because I dont have a flashing yellow box in my status bar...

It's a leak that is causing a lot of people problems. If there was ever a true "HERE BE DRAGONS!" warning for anything Maemo related, this is the one. Don't get it unless you want to take major risks.

The laundry app is broken from what I've seen. Not one person has had their laundry done for them yet by the N900. So in my opinion, it's not worth freaking out about it.

wmarone

2010-05-02 16:12

Re: What works better in the PR1.2

Quote:

Originally Posted by SAABoy (Post 638643)

is this a test run reaction to a firmware update? ... because I dont have a flashing yellow box in my status bar...

Thank you for joining us this morning. What you see before you is a feeding frenzy surrounding a leaked RC of PR1.2.

Spotfist

2010-05-02 16:12

Re: What works better in the PR1.2

two different reports in youtube, one saying it plays smooth as, the other saying it's slow...

is it just the same as before?

tirtawn

2010-05-02 16:16

Re: What works better in the PR1.2

Anybody try the SIP call? How is it now? is the choppy voice and disconnected problem has been resolved?

ArchiMark

2010-05-02 16:20

Re: What works better in the PR1.2

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysire (Post 638366)

[Snip....]

Maybe this will give someone an impulse to start another forum about the N900, where these matters *can* be discussed. This would certainly be a good opportunity to get a lot of posts in a short time. People are always discouraged by forums where there are only 17 posts in one area and 19 in the other...

Ummm, FYI, there is one....

Check out N900 Forums.....

http://nokia-n900.com/forum/index.php

:D

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