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It's really remarkable how much Arnim has given to us lately, besides all the awesome work on DOSBox.

New Port: Warzone 2100

New Port: Jagged Alliance 2 Engine

New Game: OpenTyrian 2D space shoot-emup!

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The first two are not by me. I just got the priveledge of announcing/hosting them. And sorry for the rant... ignore.

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Thank The Maker... Welcome back.

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Here's a fairly typical oprofile run for recent dosbox
running wing commander, vga, cycles 1600, frameskip 5 sound is somewhat sputtery. The breakdown was pretty surprising to me - due to high frameskip and dirty buffer technology vga and screen blits accounts for only a few percent of the cpu use.
What does it all mean? Well it does give us an indication of why sound blaster emulation requires reducing CPU cycles so much.

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Hi ArnimS,

Thank you first for the great job, I really enjoy Dosbox but still have the same issue that the mouse cursor doesn't follow the stylus. I searched in this thread but couldn't get an answer. Could you please let me know it will be fixed or there exists some solution already? Thank you. It's quite annoying because one of my favorite DOS games is heavily relied on Mouse.

-Yichun.

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Greetings again ArnimS.

Hey, I sort of felt that your recent mental snap had something to do with a post I made earlier on in this thread.

I know that you just said for your comment to be ignored, but for some reason, I feel like that's not enough to resolve what you said.

Your suggestions on how to correct the mapper.txt function, I already tried them all even before your reply. I'm not one to immediately run to this site and complain about something going wrong. I first try to work the problem before posting here.

With that being said... Yeah, there is some weird, little bug in your build, I just can't seem to place it.

I've got a ton of possibilities on what might be the cause of this, but my best guess is that it has something to do with the fullscreen option in Dosbox. Honestly though, I could care less about that.

Your comments using the F bombs and on eating rice.... well, first off, I've never heard that expression before. To me, it seemed like it was either an Eitheopean slur or an Asian racial disparagement.

I'm not judging you on what you said, only because I couldn't understand it.

If this had nothing to do with what I posted earlier, I will give you my fullest apologies for this current post.

However, If it was something that I did in fact say, well, next time, at least give me the chance to apologize first. :)

I still think of you as a good person and a nice friend that helps me whenever I ask a stupid question, so no hard feelings, okay?

I hope things are going well for you.

Cheers buddy. :)

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hello hello... HOW do i install this beautiful program onto my beautiful new N800 tablet? I've downloaded almost every file on the source site by you arnimS.. I've also scanned through every single page on this thread.. So anyone have nice straight through directinos I and others can use , what to download, what to install and how, to get dosbox working the best it can so far on the N800? Any help. MUCH.. appreciated.

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Ok, today I made a new version that should be a simple one-click install.

1. Go to http://pupnik.de/dosbox.html in your tablet browser,
2. click on the OS2008 .deb

No messing with config files, necessary. It should work regardless of whether you are on N800 or N810, OS2007 or 2008. If you have a problem, post it here.

This version fixes the N810 keyboard problem with the missing number (fn key). Also adds some minor optimizations.

I've been able to get mouse working accurately in two mouse games so far. DOSBox can auto-calibrate mouse to screen dimensions. To do this drag stylus slowly across the fullscreen game window, left to right and top to bottom; you may need to do this more than once. If you find that mouse is traveling only in upper-left hand corner, then you'll need to edit dosbox.conf to scale the mouse motion. For example Betrayal At Krondor needs sensitivity=200, but then the mouse positioning is ~perfect~!

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Oh wow, thanks! :cool: I'm off to try this new version out right away!

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Arnim, i can report that this new version doesn't take game as an argument and doesn't automount its directory. :(

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I just tried the new dosbox build with my dos game, the mouse can only follow stylus on X-axis, after changed to "sensitivity=200", it can follow on Y-axis, the resolution of my game is 640x480. Is there any option like y-sensitivity?

Thanks,
-Yichun.

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Thanks for the feedback!

Fixed. dosbox now takes arguments again.
Fixed. DOSBox now detects and automounts any directories named 'DOS' or 'dos' on your mmc1 and mmc2 starting at drive D: drives A, B and C are free to specify.

(edit) Poll: What do you want most for next release?

1. Dosbox Frontend with game profiles
2. Right mouse button support
3. Tasklist integration and minimize support
4. Integration of Xkbd into package (good/bad idea?)

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I looked at source code (mouse.cpp). From the comments I see that several games have mouse problems (related to DOSBox, not necessarily tablet related). Does the game run ok on PC dosbox? What is the game name? Perhaps the forums have an answer:
http://vogons.zetafleet.com/viewforu...a7adad4097a270

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Okay, so I finally upgraded to 2008 OS. Can I get a witness? :D

Well, you know me, I've got 18 heptendecillioin issues already. :o

What do I use for the virtual keyboard now? Xkbd from your site isn't installing.

The dependencies:
http://repository.maemo.org/pool/mae..._6.5.4_all.deb
and
http://repository.maemo.org/pool/mae....2-3_armel.deb
are also saying that they're incompatible. Nuts....

Your cycles up and down buttons work terrific now, but how can I edit them to make smaller increments/decrements? I was thinking of something as little as a 2% change each time. Your Dosbox download didn't come with the mapper.txt file this time, so I'm not too sure where to look for it or how to edit it once it's found.

Can I still overwrite your dosbox.conf using this command?
cp /media/mmc2/dosbox.conf /home/user/.dosboxrc
You pulled the sample dosbox.conf file off your site so this has me a little confused on what to do especially since your saying something now about "/usr/bin/dosbox".

Well, hope to hear back from you sometime within the near, immediate future. This still is my favorite thing to waste time on. :)

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I managed to install Dosbox and Xkbd from Armin's site last night. Xkbd required a few attempts but I still managed to get it installed solely with the application manager (I'm still on the noobish side and haven't tried doing anything with xterm yet).

For xkbd install using the application manager, you have to be in red pill mode to install the two dependencies required for xkbd. It wouldn't let me it install it the first time, since I was missing "libxau0". I had to add the maemo Bora repository (which also required several attempts, but magically worked after a few tries) to get the missing item. After that, xkbd installed without incident.

Anyway, DosBox is working well for me. Thank you Arnim for packaging this in a way that's easy for a novice to work with.

Incidentally, is there a way to input function keys using xkbd?

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Ah, I totally forgot about red pill mode.

Thanks dude!

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Oh hey! I just had a great idea!

For those of us that don't know how to go through folders and edit junk using Xterm and linux commands, what do you think about putting the Dosbox.conf and mapper.txt file in the "Documents" folder?

That way, one could easily edit those two files using the "Notes" program on the Nokia.

Yeah? :)

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I use the excellent GUI file manager called emelFM2 to move and edit files anywhere on my N800. (Usually for editing the configuration files for DOSBox and BasiliskII.) Just play around with emelFM2 for awhile to learn how to use it. It's easier then typing a lot.

https://garage.maemo.org/projects/emelfm2/

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That idea of a Dosbox frontend with game profiles is a great idea. The other piece of that frontend that would be extremely helpful would be having the integration of Xkbd that has various keyboard layouts to choose from (default, flat bottom, left side, right side, one that has function keys, custom, etc.). Being able to choose one that has function keys would be great since I'm always pulling up Xvkbd which does have these, but it is very cumbersome switching back and forth. It would also be nice to have a version of Xkbd that fully works.....I have to set Caps-lock key on most of the time for it to work. And if that doesn't work while playing a game, the use of Xvkbd in most cases does seem to work.

So to sum up....my vote is for a Dosbox frontend that has both game profiles and an integrated Xkbd that works well and has different keyboard layout options. Not much to hope for, huh? ;)

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I vote for xkbd integration as a MANDATORY feature. But you need to fix the problems with xkbd (unshifted text being processed as "ENTERS"). Also some function key support would be nice.

I also would like some type of processor control:

1. When the program no longer has focus, let the application "sleep" so that you don't peg the CPU.

2. Introduce a menu option for variable sleep cycles as the CPU seems pegged due to the polled I/O function (looking for keystrokes). The program I want to run are not games, so they don't have a lot of graphical interaction (they are in text mode), and they were plenty fast enough on a 8 MHz 80x86 PC. I'd rather go for battery life than display update.

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"Tasklist integration and minimize support", definitely! It's too easy to lose DOSBox currently. "Right mouse button support" would also be nice, someday.

Don't need Xkbd, N810 keyboard will do just fine...

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Hate to bring this up for the millionth time. Xkbd, how to use it with dosbox, I finally got it working on my own, installing all sorts of files from arnimS site. (I have '08 on N800) So i can start it up from Xterm typing xkbd and it will stay on as long as xterm is up, but when i go to run dosbox its all messed up, as in no letters type letters, just ! ! or something.. it's not how it should be, and I don't know what else to do now.

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xkbd used to work for me. Now even after a fresh OS2008 reflash it types "/" instead of letters unless I put on capslock.

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Try turning the Caps-lock key on and it should work. Play with the shift key too for small letters. It's one of those quirky things that's not fixed yet for OS2008.

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Hey thanks for the quick replies Pushwall and OSEmuTech! I rebooted it and it instantly works perfect, and in full screen for dosbox too, which I'm happy about. Now I'm going to figure out this mounting stuff. Thanks guys.

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Errgh. put all yer gamezz into a subdirectoriess (folders y'all) called DOS (or 'dos') on one o' yer SD card. arrr.

Let me know what you want and i'll try to budget a night for another release. Don't ask me to make it faster though. I spent like 4 days getting this extra 5-8%.

Btw Tak's fceu NES emulator goes into pause mode when the screen blanks. That's way cool. Gonna make dosbox do that too.

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Hey Arnim thanks for the latest version. The automounting script is pretty cool. And with your latest optimizations, I was playing Apogee's Secret Agent game and is was like I had an old PC in my hands with all the cool PC game sounds it was making....wow that brought back the memories. It's amazing how fun the early Apogee scrollers are and how well they run in Dosbox. Anyway, thanks again! :cool:

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Could you make it faster arnim?? Just kidding, I wish I could help ya with it. Can't just cant. I just enjoy your work. That's the best i can do. Thanks man!!

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I mentioned this before, be will say it again in case it got overlooked.

The only big thing I'm hoping for, which shouldn't be too difficult, is to shovel the Dosbox.conf and mapper.txt file in the "Documents" default folder so it's easier for newbies to edit them using the "Notes" utility program on the Nokia.

I wouldn't mind seeing Xkbd work better on the OS 2008 upgrade, but that probably has more to do with the creator cme (I don't think he's been around for awhile now) would wrote Xkbd than anything else, so I'm really not expecting too much on that.

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Er, Notes saves to HTML . . . and breaking UNIX conventions to make things "easier" for newbies is stupid.

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2 words. User friendly.

Come on now :)

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You're not seriously saying that, are you? User friendly is putting together a nice GUI to control the settings. User friendly is not breaking UNIX and platform conventions. Breaking UNIX conventions only manages to make things harder for people who actually have some kind of a clue what they're doing, while simultaneously preventing newbies from learning how things work with every other piece of software.

I say again: bad, stupid idea.

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If users can figure out how to both install dosbox and use applications inside, they sure as hell will be able to figure out or even know how to find and edit a configuration file. There is no amount of "user friendliness" that can accommodate stupidity, end of story.

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I suppose we can go with that old saying:

You can fix ignorance, but you can't cure stupid.

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IMO the only way I think to make Dosbox somewhat user friendly for newbies is to have a frontend that runs in OS2008 like one of these:
http://www.dosbox.com/wiki/DOSBoxFrontends
And Arnim already mentioned that as a possibility for the future which is cool.

I was testing Dosbox tonight and it is running much better with the latest release. I was testing out old Apogee games, and all these run fairly well: Paganitzu, Secret Agent, Crystal Caves, Duke Nukem 1 & 2 (scroller not 3D), BioMenace, Paganitzu, and Cosmo's Cosmic Adventure. BioMenace ran extremely slow previously as well as Cosmo. Cosmo is now just a tad slow but it is very playable and fun. And of course all the Keen games run well now too, Keen 1-3, 3.5, 4-5. Great job on the fine-tuning Arnim! :)

The only thing with playing these games on my N800 is the controls, since the tablet is not set up for gaming in mind. Man I wish the controls were laid out like my Tapwave Zodiac2,....it would make it a much better playing experience. But to be able to have my N800 play these old favorites is pretty awesome indeed.

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Just a friendly, non harmful, comment to sherifnix's post...

What makes you think a stupid person will always stay that way? This sounds rather bleak to be honest here. I've heard this expression before, and to me, I find that saying itself to be ignorant.

Okay, so I associate Linux with a great Counterstrike server, and that's about it in a nutshell. Anything beyond that knowledge I'll probably never understand.

Sure there's stupidity on how I view Linux or whatever it is that drives my Nokia, but you're missing the main point here. Even stupid people can follow simple directions, probably even more so since they can't think independently for themselves and challenge whatever it is that you're saying.

Good documentation followed with screenshots and crayon drawings is something I could probably walk my way through if correctly explained in this way. :)

Unfortunately you just can't find this type of simple comfort here on these forums, or at least, I don't know what keywords I need to use to search for it.

Well, I was using "Notes" to edit the mapper.txt and Dosbox.conf settings, not realizing the integrity of these files were being compromised until now. I think that's why I broke it earlier in a post I made a few pages back and couldn't understand what happened.

As of right now, I don't even know how to edit these two files anymore since I'm not seeing what commands are needed to view and change them with this latest build for Dosbox.

I'm a nice person, but seriously, all of you smart people are driving me crazy! :)

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Go forth and education yourself!

Nothing comes for free. :)

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Addison, with the latest Dosbox update the dosbox.conf and mapper.txt files are located in '/usr/share/dosbox/'. I edit these via command-line using the vi editor, or much easier....just by running emelFM2 and using its built-in text editor. Another easy way to edit is on your PC by accessing the files with WinSCP (lots of threads about this).

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Stoopid is gennitick.

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Ah thanks for mentioning that.

That's the reason for removing references to the config files and setting up dosbox to be as optimal as possible 'out-of-the-box'.
Casual users don't want to have to muck about with that stuff.

Releasing something that requires people without much linux experience to deal with this sort of thing is what's 'stupid'. I think it's inaccurate to call someone stupid if they don't happen to share one's own skillset. Do economists or biologists take this attitude? No...

I hope to have a frontend working sometime this weekend. Oh and suspend-to-disk would be fantastic too, so we can close it and resume a game later. But I don't know if that's really doable. I don't know how long anything is going to take. I'm working on squishing bugs elsewhere at the moment.