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6sicSIX 2010-06-30 22:22

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A-ha! Good. I read somewhere that it would use it's own kernel so it would be impossible, was hoping that wasn't the case as I don't want to disturb maemo..

jaysire 2010-06-30 22:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ...boy (Post 736012)
hat is bettet in Meego

Hat is bettet indeed. Couldn't have said it better myself.

chase15 2010-06-30 22:35

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It looks nice.. if someone successfully flashed it on n900, please make a video of it.. thanks....

maxximuscool 2010-06-30 22:38

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http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/meego-codedrop.php

meego-handset-armv7l-n900-nokia-closed-1.0.80.8.20100630.ks

maxximuscool 2010-06-30 22:41

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These device looks great! For MeeGo. 2Mp front camera F-T-W?

http://www.aavamobile.com/specs.php

Optln 2010-06-30 22:44

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I installed Fedora, just to build a MeeGo image. Anyone is successful booting from N900 yet?

Edit: It seems kickstart file is broken(or something like that) and we have to wait tomorrow.

kojacker 2010-06-30 22:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysire (Post 736268)
Hat is bettet indeed. Couldn't have said it better myself.

lol I just spat out a piece of my Subway sandwich laughing after reading that! :D:o

maxximuscool 2010-06-30 22:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by fahadj2003 (Post 736142)
a) whats ks?
b) it gave me a list of options including ks and meego-codedrop-arm-n900-closed-201003311635.ubiimg
flashed meego-codedrop-arm-n900-closed-201003311635.ubiimg and it turns out to be a 178mb xterminal :|
whatever happened to dos?
it fits in a floppy disk :|

** edit
by it, i meant the download page

KS = Kick Start!

zaoltryence 2010-07-01 02:41

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hope it'll look like this or even better http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EW5wp...ayer_embedded#!

Lullen 2010-07-01 03:04

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@ everyone complaining about copycats: Meego is a big copy of everything, windows, mac, linux etc etc(terminal, icons, mouse pointer etc etc)! Things becomes better because people copy others and make it a LOT better!

If you want to say anything against this, look at the wheel!

mtrower2 2010-07-01 03:20

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I just posted this in another thread, but here it is for everyone to lazy to go find it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtQsOb6mO0A

fatalsaint 2010-07-01 03:57

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How To for your N900. (Ubuntu, and somewhat Fedora.. refers to wiki :p)

http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?p=4812

maemosboy 2010-07-01 04:10

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Would someone share ready image so we no need to everyone build it?

fatalsaint 2010-07-01 04:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by maemosboy (Post 736580)
Would someone share ready image so we no need to everyone build it?

Considering the built image contains proprietary nokia binaries.





No.

lucas777 2010-07-01 04:36

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Does anyone know already if flash 10.1 will come to meego? i search but could not find anything helpful

ZShakespeare 2010-07-01 05:53

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Flash 10 should be available for MeeGo at some point at or before the first stable release.

maemosboy 2010-07-01 07:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by fatalsaint (Post 736584)
Considering the built image contains proprietary nokia binaries.





No.


??????????:confused::confused:

jsa 2010-07-01 08:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ZShakespeare (Post 736625)
Flash 10 should be available for MeeGo at some point at or before the first stable release.

Hold on there.. may I ask where you got that? This kind of contradicts with the 100 % open source goal. I wouldn't bet on it. AFAIU it's up to the device manufacturers to add Flash support for their products.

ossipena 2010-07-01 10:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by maemosboy (Post 736689)
??????????:confused::confused:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proprietary_software

Quote:

...further distribution...

Rauha 2010-07-01 11:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by maxximuscool (Post 736293)
These device looks great! For MeeGo. 2Mp front camera F-T-W?

http://www.aavamobile.com/specs.php

Aava doesn't make products for consumers. They make prototypes and reference platforms for ODM/OEMs and sofware developers.

Sad really, cause Aava Virta would be the most beautiful gadget name ever.

depu 2010-07-01 12:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jsa (Post 736756)
Hold on there.. may I ask where you got that? This kind of contradicts with the 100 % open source goal. I wouldn't bet on it. AFAIU it's up to the device manufacturers to add Flash support for their products.

Its mentioned in the Adobe Flash Press release.

And Meego doesnt have a 100% opensource goal for all apps running on it. Only the core of Meego is to be opensource and that too might depend on the manufacturer to do.
Meego only provides a base OS for others to build on.

Parody 2010-07-01 12:54

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I know it's pre-alpha, but here are some things that bothered me right off the bat:
http://i50.tinypic.com/19nhhu.png

1: the menu button looks as if none of the maemo 5 minimalism carried over (which is odd, because judging from some other icons it appears that it has)

2: I'm not liking the card system of switching apps, the thumbnails from Maemo 5 worked just fine, although I've heard that will also be an option which doesn't make it so bad. I guess it's nice to have different options.

3: So much redundant space! I wish the text was closer to the icons and that they were 4x4 (or maybe even 4x5), also I really dislike the iPhone styled scrolling, it just makes very little sense.

4: Personally, I liked slide-to-unlock more but anyways, the position of the icon looks a bit uncomfortable although I've seen that it will be on the bottom as well. Other than personal preference, I think this is actually ok.

Anyways, it's pre-alpha so most of this will be improved, so while I know I'm basically complaining about how the unfinished product is unfinished, I wanted to say something anyway. If I take the unfinished state of this into consideration, then it's pretty obvious that MeeGo will actually end up looking totally rad.

Sorry for the TL;DR rant :P

Optln 2010-07-01 13:03

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@Parody

Phones that will use MeeGo will be mostly capacitive screens. Most of features you don't like are related to this. Maemo was an internet tablet OS, optimized for stylus. But looks like MeeGo is optimized for fingers.

jsa 2010-07-01 13:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by depu (Post 737004)
Its mentioned in the Adobe Flash Press release.

And Meego doesnt have a 100% opensource goal for all apps running on it. Only the core of Meego is to be opensource and that too might depend on the manufacturer to do.
Meego only provides a base OS for others to build on.

Okay, I may have been a bit hasty. Now that I look at the post I replied to, he said "for", not "in".

But MeeGo the project does have a 100 % open goal, which means that the whole deliverable from the project including core OS and reference UX will be open source. Flash would be in the "others to build on it" category. That's why I said in my post that it's up to the manufacturer to add support. Obviously Flash has to support MeeGo, like said in the Adobe press release if someone is going to preinstall it on a device running the OS.

Parody 2010-07-01 13:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Optln (Post 737049)
@Parody

Phones that will use MeeGo will be mostly capacitive screens. Most of features you don't like are related to this. Maemo was an internet tablet OS, optimized for stylus. But looks like MeeGo is optimized for fingers.

Hopefully the N900 community made version will be more optimized for its resistive display :)

The menu launcher still looks like a damned traffic sign though :(

NvyUs 2010-07-01 13:13

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its just a bloody icon what will probably look different when different vendors ship there own default themes or users make themes,
more important vendors will most probably build there own customised UI on top so in places it will look nothing like the reference UI release so stop judging too early

ivnvir 2010-07-01 13:23

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the problem of unlocking from top of the phone is that you can't unlock with just one hand, at least most of the time...

Odd_gunnic 2010-07-01 13:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Parody (Post 737036)
I know it's pre-alpha, but here are some things that bothered me right off the bat:
http://i50.tinypic.com/19nhhu.png

1: the menu button looks as if none of the maemo 5 minimalism carried over (which is odd, because judging from some other icons it appears that it has)

2: I'm not liking the card system of switching apps, the thumbnails from Maemo 5 worked just fine, although I've heard that will also be an option which doesn't make it so bad. I guess it's nice to have different options.

3: So much redundant space! I wish the text was closer to the icons and that they were 4x4 (or maybe even 4x5), also I really dislike the iPhone styled scrolling, it just makes very little sense.

4: Personally, I liked slide-to-unlock more but anyways, the position of the icon looks a bit uncomfortable although I've seen that it will be on the bottom as well. Other than personal preference, I think this is actually ok.

Anyways, it's pre-alpha so most of this will be improved, so while I know I'm basically complaining about how the unfinished product is unfinished, I wanted to say something anyway. If I take the unfinished state of this into consideration, then it's pretty obvious that MeeGo will actually end up looking totally rad.

Sorry for the TL;DR rant :P

If you look at the developer guidelines the images show a 4x4 grid...
dont stress over that

eMiL 2010-07-01 13:35

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I think they should have released this pre-alpha with LESS graphics and detail. Now it almost look like a end-user UI (UX) wich it is not, not by a long shot!

And since it's linux based the customisation possibilities are endless.

Think about how much the Maemo themes differ from each other! I like what I'm seeing and the fact is: It's only going to get better! :)

pelago 2010-07-01 13:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Odd_gunnic (Post 736091)
Oh and by the way are there any screenshots of the email application?

The MeeGo project hasn't released its email app yet, or media player or calendar, but those are supposed to be moving to the open within the next few weeks.

Regarding unlocking, according to http://meego.com/developers/ui-desig...t/meego-basics unlocking will be via a slide action.

Viipottaja 2010-07-01 15:06

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I hope there will be a proper homescreen(s) a la Maemo5 - from the "Meego Basics" website its not evident... but I am sure Nokia will include it, would be too strange not to I'd think.

radiowc 2010-07-01 15:12

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Man! cant wait to get this Handset. Yes !

NvyUs 2010-07-01 15:12

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the vibe i'm getting is the homescreen might be left to each vendor to do there own, i have seen a brief mention of a homescreen but it seems to just be blank screen with dock in reference UI, we will need to wait longer to be sure

sevla 2010-07-01 15:39

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I kind of like the blank hoemscreen look..

Was never really a fan of widgets..

ZShakespeare 2010-07-01 16:45

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I've always been torn. The desktop should be useful and useable, but on the other hand I always like the clean look of an empty desktop.

Parody 2010-07-01 16:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sevla (Post 737275)
I kind of like the blank hoemscreen look..

Was never really a fan of widgets..

Personally I think they should add widgets, because if someone doesn't like them they can simply not put them on the homescreen.

fnordianslip 2010-07-01 17:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Lullen (Post 736549)
If you want to say anything against this, look at the wheel!

Some comedian (I forget who) pointed out that the invention of the 2nd wheel was far more important than the first.

crsnwby 2010-07-01 17:01

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What extra does this do to Maemo 5????

Apart from look crappier?

Viipottaja 2010-07-01 17:05

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Well it has multi-touch.. ;)

ZShakespeare 2010-07-01 17:13

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The N900 doesn't have multi-touch though.


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