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RobbieThe1st

2010-08-22 08:49

Re: [Announce] BackupMenu - Backup & restore OS images(+ other features)

Well, I'm not opposed; If someone who knows Multiboot code wants to try to figure it out, I'll do my best to help out.

I have a feeling though that, without changing Multiboot's code, there are two options:
1. run it via console mode or,
2. set up an item that loads the Maemo OS, but somehow launches BackupMenu in the boot process. (with boot options?)

mornage

2010-08-22 14:52

Re: [Announce] BackupMenu - Backup & restore OS images(+ other features)

Well the item file would need to be

ITEM_NAME="Maemo Backupmenu"
ITEM_KERNEL=2.6.28-omap1
ITEM_MODULE=ext3

That would boot maemo normally, Then maybe adding

ITEM_INITRC="path to backupmenu.item"

Might launch bootmenu for you. Although, I am thinking backupmenu.item might have to be renamed and possibly modified as ITEM_INITRC tells multiboot which init program to execute when switching over to root.

There is no way to tell the existing multiboot of boot options as such so that is the only way I can see at the moment.

I was going to install backupmenu and have a play around to see if I could work anything out but it depends on bootmenu which conflicts with multiboot.

Edit: Not sure how easy it is to change multiboot's code to make them work together or how busy he is, but JAY-C is the creator of multiboot so it might be worth contacting him to see if there is anything you can work out between you to get the two to intergrate?

Edit 2: Especially if backupmenu is just a shell script, as he may be able to add support for running a script prior to booting?

Rob1n

2010-08-23 08:07

Re: [Announce] BackupMenu - Backup & restore OS images(+ other features)

Quote:

Originally Posted by mornage (Post 795000)

Unfortunately using ITEM_INITRC doesn't seem to do anything. Even if it did, I doubt it would work. Both bootmenu and multiboot work by modifying the initrd used during boot, and unless the multiboot initrd contains all the same added programs as the bootmenu one, the backupmenu script will fail to find the necessary executables.

EDIT: In fact, the initrc would be called after switching from the initrd, so the contents of that wouldn't matter. You'd still need all the executables installed on the N900 though.

tan	2010-08-23 21:41

Re: [Announce] BackupMenu - Backup & restore OS images(+ other features)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dany-69 (Post 782335)

1) If you have any problem .. you have to flash with the fiasco image before (the originale one) and with your root after,

Before everything .. put your OPT image in MyDocs. Shut down the phone.

Press U while you connect the usb port (yes, in every type of flash, even the one of the root created by backupmenu, you HAVE TO activate the flash mode pressing U).
Then give the command :

flasher-3.5.exe -F nameofFIASCOimage.bin -f

At the end of the process ... give this other command:

flasher-3.5.exe -r nomeOFyourROOTimage -f

The first one erase everything... the second one put the old root image in the phone.

Than unplug the cable and make the first boot with the opened keyboard.
Backupmenu should run.. and from here you should select the option to restore ONLY OPT . :)

At the end of this everything should be all right :)

After selecting 'Restore OptFS' and 'eMMC/MyData'

'Select File: OptFS image' dialog somehow does not let me to select option 'a)'; which is my OptFS image.

There seems to be no way of choosing the OptFS.img neither from the SD or the eMMC.

Interesting part is: the OptFS restores fine if the backed up RootFS.img is not flashed first.

Is there a way of restoring the OptFS as well using the PC flasher?

Thanks in advance!

hawaii

2010-08-23 23:46

Re: [Announce] BackupMenu - Backup & restore OS images(+ other features)

No. You can not restore /opt/ using flasher.

tan	2010-08-24 05:59

Re: [Announce] BackupMenu - Backup & restore OS images(+ other features)

I also tried restoring the OptFS first using the BackupMenu and flashing the RootFS right after from PC flasher, in that case system stays on 5 loading lights for hours.

P.s. I'm using a U.S. keyboard layout with v0.32-1 of BackupMenu.

Is there a "safe restore" mode available, or would a manual restore from the 'command line' option would work?

tan	2010-08-24 08:27

Re: [Announce] BackupMenu - Backup & restore OS images(+ other features)

Also restoring RootFS via BackupMenu leads to an unbootable state. I'm wondering if this is normal. Maybe something is wrong with my RootFS.img (although the sumcheck was ok).

Dany-69

2010-08-24 13:47

Re: [Announce] BackupMenu - Backup & restore OS images(+ other features)

I've made a lot of experienxe about this .. it seems that it's impossible to restore OPT because something is corrupted in the file...

Making a new backup i were able to restore even OPT...

Robbie for example the images that i gave you weren't good and this is why my tester wasn't able to restore them .. T_T
Making a new one i have solved.. but this is a big bug :(

RobbieThe1st

2010-08-24 21:32

Re: [Announce] BackupMenu - Backup & restore OS images(+ other features)

Quote:

Originally Posted by tan (Post 796317)

I assume you are using an older version of BackupMenu. Version .31, IIRC, has a glitch that wouldn't let you select anything in that menu. V.30 and V.32 didn't have it; the latest is fine.
If you have that problem, you are going to have to somehow get V.32 installed on your box.
You can try this:
1. flash to PR1.2
2. Boot up, install BackupMenu V.32.
3. Reboot into BackupMenu
4. Restore the OptFS.
5. Connect your USB cable, ready the Maemo flasher utility and reboot your N900
6. Flash PR1.2 again, then flash your RootFS image.

If everything went correctly, you should have a working system.

Quote:

Originally Posted by tan (Post 796527)

Check the first post in the topic. You are going to have to flash PR1.2, then your RootFS from flasher, then boot into BackupMenu and restore your OptFS.

Quote:

Originally Posted by tan (Post 796613)

Also restoring RootFS via BackupMenu leads to an unbootable state. I'm wondering if this is normal. Maybe something is wrong with my RootFS.img (although the sumcheck was ok).

This happens sometimes - You have to use Flasher to flash to PR1.2, then flash your RootFS for it to work.
I'm not sure why it does it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dany-69 (Post 796888)

So the problem was with a corrupted image? Ok, great. Let me know if you run into other corrupted images, or if it was a problem thats solved in the current version.

tan	2010-08-25 09:32

Re: [Announce] BackupMenu - Backup & restore OS images(+ other features)

Thank you RobbieThe1st,

Quote:

Originally Posted by RobbieThe1st (Post 797259)

You can try this:
1. flash to PR1.2
2. Boot up, install BackupMenu V.32.
3. Reboot into BackupMenu
4. Restore the OptFS.
5. Connect your USB cable, ready the Maemo flasher utility and reboot your N900
6. Flash PR1.2 again, then flash your RootFS image.

Following these steps I was able to restore both the OptFS and RootFS, although somehow system stays on the loading screen.

tan	2010-08-25 09:40

Re: [Announce] BackupMenu - Backup & restore OS images(+ other features)

As of step 6 maybe I should use,

flasher-3.5.exe -r nameOFyourROOTimage -f -R

instead of

flasher-3.5.exe -r nameOFyourROOTimage -f

sacal

2010-08-25 18:08

Re: [Announce] BackupMenu - Backup & restore OS images(+ other features)

Quote:

Originally Posted by RobbieThe1st (Post 794716)

Reading multiboot's code (v0.2.5) there are some options that could provide a way to execute BackupMenu.item script.

Code:

main()

{

        local sel i



        init_hw

        init_fs

        init_pm



        if [ -f ${BOOT_FAST} ]

        then

                FAST_BOOT=YES

                rm -f ${BOOT_FAST}

        fi

        

        if [ -f ${BOOT_ITEM} ]

        then

                load_config 99 ${BOOT_ITEM}

        fi



        if is_fast_boot || ! is_slide_open

        then

                boot_item 99

        fi



        init_screen

        init_backlight

        read_config

        

        while :

        do

                print_menu

                

                sel=$(wait_keypress)

        

                echo -e -n '\r'



                case $sel in



                        # Timeout

                        D)   sel=99 ;;



                        # Enter

                        28)  sel=99 ;;



                        # 0-9

                        16)  sel=1 ;;

                        17)  sel=2 ;;

                        18)  sel=3 ;;

                        19)  sel=4 ;;

                        20)  sel=5 ;;

                        21)  sel=6 ;;

                        22)  sel=7 ;;

                        23)  sel=8 ;;

                        24)  sel=9 ;;

                        25)  sel=0 ;;

                        

                        # S - shell

                        31)  boot_shell ;;



                        # Backscape - reboot

                        14)  safe_reboot ;;



                        # X - poweroff

                        45)  safe_poweroff ;;



                        # B - Fallback if everything else fails

                        48)  boot_script /sbin/preinit_real  ;;

                    

                        # D -  Debugging another script

                        32)  boot_script /sbin/multiboot_debug  ;;



                esac



                if [ -n "$(array NAME $sel)" ]

                then

                        wait_screen $sel

                        boot_item $sel

                fi

        done

}





main



# End

The " # S - shell 31) boot_shell ;; " option should open a shell but unfortunately in my system that just doesn't work. The screen goes black and powers off after some time.

The " # D - Debugging another script 32) boot_script /sbin/multiboot_debug ;; " seams like some testing script for debug proposes but i couldn't find any sbin/multiboot_debug in my system.
So perhaps it could be changed to:

Code:

# D -  Debugging another script

32)  boot_script /sbin/BackupMenu.item  ;;

Now it would only be necessary to move BackupMenu.item script to /sbin.

I haven't tested it yet as i am on holidays and away from my pc to reflash if anything goes wrong.

If there is anyone brave enough to do it them please report back.

Rob1n

2010-08-25 20:07

Re: [Announce] BackupMenu - Backup & restore OS images(+ other features)

Quote:

Originally Posted by sacal (Post 798145)

Now it would only be necessary to move BackupMenu.item script to /sbin.

Remember that all this is happening in the initrd, not in the normal N900 filesystem. You'll also need to make sure all the programs used by the BackupMenu script are also available in the initrd.

sacal

2010-08-26 01:01

Re: [Announce] BackupMenu - Backup & restore OS images(+ other features)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob1n (Post 798281)

Remember that all this is happening in the initrd, not in the normal N900 filesystem. You'll also need to make sure all the programs used by the BackupMenu script are also available in the initrd.

Rob1n

Thanks for your reply.

I really don't know what programs are used by BackupMenu. However, as I read the in the 1st post that:

Quote:

Originally Posted by RobbieThe1st (Post 754837)

Multiboot:
As I have been asked about 4 times in this thread, when I already posted the answer on the second page...
Will Multiboot work with my script?
I just took a look at it - it probably -won't-, at least not by copying it into /etc/multiboot.d/.
You can -probably- get it to work the same by:
1. at the boot prompt, press C for console.
2. type "/path/to/BackupMenu.item"
If that doesn't work, make sure its marked as executable by running:
"chmod +x /path/to/BackupMenu.item"

.

i thought that BackupMenu.item could run from the console option of multiboot. :o

Unfortunately, in my system, the C option of multiboot (0.2.5) doesn't work and i can't test it.

RobbieThe1st

2010-08-26 06:23

Re: [Announce] BackupMenu - Backup & restore OS images(+ other features)

Programs used by BackupMenu:
/usr/bin/text2screen
expr
cat
/usr/sbin/evkey
modprobe
ifconfig
dd
cksum
echo
insmod
/lib/modules/current/phonet.ko
/lib/modules/current/g_nokia.ko
mount
mkdir
/sbin/udevd
/sbin/udevadm
hwclock
awk
getty
umount
fsck
sleep
chmod
/usr/sbin/sshd (for SSH server - optional)
date
find
sync
reboot
poweroff

Thats the full list of programs called. I have a feeling that 90% of them are part of the BusyBox executable; copying that and a bunch of symlinks will take care of those.
Anything that has a full path in my app has it here; everything else shouldn't matter so long as it is in the $PATH.

Edit:
Tan, you are correct in your last post. You need to flash your rootFS image -as- a rootFS image, not a fiasco image.

Marlon

2010-08-26 14:17

Re: [Announce] BackupMenu - Backup & restore OS images(+ other features)

FYI this worked great for me on 0.32 when I needed to get it back up and running

Glad I read through the 14 pages first instead of just asking :o)

Thanks

Quote:

Originally Posted by RobbieThe1st (Post 797259)

Dany-69

2010-08-27 06:57

Re: [Announce] BackupMenu - Backup & restore OS images(+ other features)

Robbie :D

Here my image :)

http://www.maemomeego.net/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=929

Do you think that sharing it here on maemo.org in a new 3d could be a good thing ?

RobbieThe1st

2010-08-28 04:21

Re: [Announce] BackupMenu - Backup & restore OS images(+ other features)

Go ahead and post it; it can't hurt. I'd also like to see other people trying it and see if these images can be transfered between N900 most of the time or if they can't.

debernardis

2010-08-28 04:34

Re: [Announce] BackupMenu - Backup & restore OS images(+ other features)

Robbie, do you have any new hints at the reason why restoring the rootfs from the device itself never works for some of us?

Dany-69

2010-08-28 07:20

Re: [Announce] BackupMenu - Backup & restore OS images(+ other features)

Quote:

Originally Posted by RobbieThe1st (Post 800548)

Go ahead and post it; it can't hurt. I'd also like to see other people trying it and see if these images can be transfered between N900 most of the time or if they can't.

Ok i'll open a 3d here :)

Robbie there is a small problem here... there is a bit of italian .. but the error in writen in english :)

http://www.maemomeego.net/viewtopic....ngle_Post_View

What could be?
Post number 42

RobbieThe1st

2010-08-28 07:52

Re: [Announce] BackupMenu - Backup & restore OS images(+ other features)

Quote:

Originally Posted by debernardis (Post 800555)

Robbie, do you have any new hints at the reason why restoring the rootfs from the device itself never works for some of us?

I think it has something to do with bad blocks in the flash, but I really don't know.
Also, its not just "some". If the current image is too different from the one needing to be flashed, it won't work. Why? I don't know. Perhaps some files aren't getting copied correctly, or some portion of the disk image.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dany-69 (Post 800606)

It's just giving an error saying "no error". I don't have a clue what that could mean - Perhaps it worked right?

Dany-69

2010-08-28 12:47

Re: [Announce] BackupMenu - Backup & restore OS images(+ other features)

No it doesn't work ... only nokia bootscreen :(

EDIT: Another one with thew same error .. .:(

"sto facendo la procedura. E' normale che al lancio della stringa:
flasher-3.5.exe -r Fastmantle_v1-rootfs.img -f
alla fine esce scritto:
finishing flashing... sending request 0x52 failed: no error
?????????????????????????????"

The process of flash arrives to the end ... but this line appear ... :confused:

Erazor

2010-08-28 13:48

Re: [Announce] BackupMenu - Backup & restore OS images(+ other features)

@ RobbieThe1st

is this a bug that the keyboard wont turn the backlight on?
in the night its very hard to see the keys ^^
it would be nice when its starts working :)

and now
THX for the app :)
nice work

rolan900d

2010-08-28 14:57

Re: [Announce] BackupMenu - Backup & restore OS images(+ other features)

Hi Robbie,

it works great on my end...
Great work and appreciated here in the Netherlands...
2 questions left:

can we expect a GUI 4 this?
Does this backup all (like apps and other stuff like contacts and calendar)?

Regards

lma	2010-08-28 15:36

Re: [Announce] BackupMenu - Backup & restore OS images(+ other features)

Quote:

Originally Posted by RobbieThe1st (Post 784918)

3. As Dana was talking about, I thought for most of this topic that the Kernel was installed in the RootFS. Now, I'm not so sure, because when you flash PR1.2, then your RootFS image, you are back to the default kernel. This is because either A, the kernel is stored somewhere else, or B, the boot link to the kernel is stored elsewhere(whatever tells it which kernel to use). If you know which it is, let me know.

The kernel is stored in a separate mtd partition (not on the rootfs!) so you'll need to back it up or restore it separately. I forget the exact partition number, and IIRC the layout is different from the N8x0s but /proc/mtd should tell you.

Dany-69

2010-08-28 16:28

Re: [Announce] BackupMenu - Backup & restore OS images(+ other features)

Quote:

Originally Posted by rolan900d (Post 800782)

I think it's a bit hard to have a better guy ... this is only a script that is loaded in the ram at the startup ... to do what you say we should install even some other files on an external support, just like a sd card, like being an operting system...
And yes, this backups EVERYTHING you can think :)

tan	2010-08-29 10:14

Re: [Announce] BackupMenu - Backup & restore OS images(+ other features)

After restoring RootFS checksums seem not to match. Would you have any tips for that RobbieThe1st?

Dany-69

2010-08-29 13:49

Re: [Announce] BackupMenu - Backup & restore OS images(+ other features)

Robbie .. since yesterday I'm trying to fix that stupid error.
1) Tried with a mst MD5 checksums ... My tester hasn't a corrupted file.
2) Check the hardware revision. We have the same : 2101
3) I told the testers try to flash with the root image extracted from a fiascoimage.
That flash went fine.

So to two testers everything all right... and two with that error. ... and I do not understand why ..

badabing

2010-08-29 23:35

Re: [Announce] BackupMenu - Backup & restore OS images(+ other features)

Yeah finally a complete backup app. Too bad bootmenu n900 isnt compatible with nitdroid. But not for long i think :)

Viqsi

2010-08-30 02:03

Re: [Announce] BackupMenu - Backup & restore OS images(+ other features)

Quote:

Originally Posted by RobbieThe1st (Post 779968)

...I'm gonna try to figure out a different way of backing up and restoring that is more tollerant of bad blocks.

Presuming that this is still an issue... have you taken a look at ddrescue?
http://www.gnu.org/software/ddrescue/ddrescue.html

I use it to clone hard drives as part of my backup strategy for my laptop. It's wonderfully effective. I've no idea if anyone's even thought about compiling it for Maemo, let alone done so (I wouldn't be able to - I take one look at the Scratchbox installation docs and go into twitching fits), but it ought to help.

RobbieThe1st

2010-08-30 02:37

Re: [Announce] BackupMenu - Backup & restore OS images(+ other features)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Erazor (Post 800743)

I never programmed any way to turn it on.
I suppose I could; I just need to find the /dev/ file that turns it on.

Quote:

Originally Posted by rolan900d (Post 800782)

Well, it -is- a GUI, to some extent.
If you mean an application that runs inside Maemo... thats not possible

If you back up both the RootFS and the OptFS, everything should be backed up

Quote:

Originally Posted by lma (Post 800805)

Ah, perfect! Thanks.

Quote:

Originally Posted by tan (Post 801307)

After restoring RootFS checksums seem not to match. Would you have any tips for that RobbieThe1st?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dany-69 (Post 801436)

I assume this is due to bad blocks in the OneNAND flash module. I can't do anything about this with the current setup.
I have an idea for a different way of doing this, but I'd need to have some testers who are willing to have to wipe their N900s.

Dany-69

2010-08-30 05:13

Re: [Announce] BackupMenu - Backup & restore OS images(+ other features)

Robbie i'm here for evething that doesn't destroy definitively my phone and that is reversible with a flash :)

But why these bad sectors create problems only on some N900 and not on every N900? T_T

By the way .. if you need .. PM me .

optimaxxx

2010-08-31 12:11

Re: [Announce] BackupMenu - Backup & restore OS images(+ other features)

sorry if this was covered earlier, but it's pretty urgent, my phone is in a reboot loop, with backupmenu.

i hold down lock button, but it justr eboots into the same freaking menu!!

Rob1n

2010-08-31 15:30

Re: [Announce] BackupMenu - Backup & restore OS images(+ other features)

Quote:

Originally Posted by optimaxxx (Post 803136)

sorry if this was covered earlier, but it's pretty urgent, my phone is in a reboot loop, with backupmenu.

i hold down lock button, but it justr eboots into the same freaking menu!!

Shut the keyboard?

Marlon

2010-08-31 18:20

Re: [Announce] BackupMenu - Backup & restore OS images(+ other features)

Quote:

Originally Posted by optimaxxx (Post 803136)

sorry if this was covered earlier, but it's pretty urgent, my phone is in a reboot loop, with backupmenu.

i hold down lock button, but it justr eboots into the same freaking menu!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob1n (Post 803279)

Shut the keyboard?

Maybe mean but I did laugh when I read this.

Erazor

2010-09-02 19:25

Re: [Announce] BackupMenu - Backup & restore OS images(+ other features)

Quote:

Originally Posted by RobbieThe1st (Post 801890)

I never programmed any way to turn it on.
I suppose I could; I just need to find the /dev/ file that turns it on.

that would be nice when you cane make this :)

perhaps anyone in the forum know the link.

MohammadAG

2010-09-02 21:24

Re: [Announce] BackupMenu - Backup & restore OS images(+ other features)

Load leds_lp5523.ko

Code:

for x in 1 2 3 4 5 6; do echo 255 > /sys/class/leds/lp5523\:kb$x/brightness; done

Erazor

2010-09-03 09:35

Re: [Announce] BackupMenu - Backup & restore OS images(+ other features)

Quote:

Originally Posted by MohammadAG (Post 805679)

Load leds_lp5523.ko

Code:

for x in 1 2 3 4 5 6; do echo 255 > /sys/class/leds/lp5523\:kb$x/brightness; done

thx a lot ;)

RobbieThe1st

2010-09-04 09:21

Re: [Announce] BackupMenu - Backup & restore OS images(+ other features)

Yea, I'm gonna have to try that, MohammadAG. Thanks.

shadowz1337

2010-09-06 02:35

Re: [Announce] BackupMenu - Backup & restore OS images(+ other features)

how do i type symbols such as

Quote:

?? The output key does not correspond to what i type on the keyboard, but everything else works.

Also, how do i use the maemo flasher?? We need to press and hold the "U" key and then connect the USB, but having the keyboard open will simply launch the backup menu instead, what do i do??

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