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I could not agree more! No matter what you put inside, style and usability is very important.

The "Mac-style" silver and black has completely different proportions of each colour. It is more silver with black accents and don't have that horrible silver surrounding the black that surrounds the screen. It is like having a Ferrari engine within an old school Skoda (what is wrong with a good old Skoda I hear you say...). It will break apart before we start to play with it.

That ridiculous keyboard with elevated hinge will be the first thing to go after a few flicks. I'm done with their design and engineering.

I am not easily put off by ugly things....(I have a mirror...) but this is beyond the pale.

Besides, even not being easily put off by different technologies, I prefer the ones that give more that a month's usage out of my money and my N900 has just done it for me. Not an every day swearing kind of person but I've been at the end of my wits and very p!!!ed off by battery issues, then kb issues, then non-responsiveness issues. It does not fill me with confidence in the Nokia brand, unless it is actually build by HTC on Nokia's behalf.

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Lets remember that Harmattan framework is now MeeGo touch framework . Just like Meego 1.0 is very much Moblin and got pretty much nothing to do with Maemo it's same story with phone side as Nokia have been working on it for long time. I mean harmattan was announced already in 2008.
Might sound weird but i'm all for it to be Harmattan. That i'm pretty sure it also is.

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http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_n9-3398.php


old link but seems they have updated the picture of the phone?

this makes me wonder maybe it symbian3 crap anyway.

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Yeah, I wish it would look more like that mock-up posted page ago. It looks cheap and "KIRF" like. Oh well, I thought that HTC's TP2 was ugly until I saw it, it wasn't really that ugly after all.

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it's GSMarena. nothing new from them.

Every source that i trust seem to be saying it's MeeGo/Harmattan and i have no reason to doubt that. Nokia is still releasing one MeeGo device this year no matter what like they have been saying 4-5 months already.

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I bet you're right. Its just that I expect I'll end up running Meego on my N900 at some point, so why would I want to branch off to a Harmattan device as an upgrade, when Meego is the future?

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i think the hinge has been field proven in the n97 and n97 mini as very good engineering...

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It would be nice if it were that way, but that is not how DRM works. It's not a "feature" that you can just ignore or use at your will. In most cases, DRM needs to "infect" the whole system and requires a closed platform. If the platform is open, one can snoop, circumvent or override the "protection", so in order for DRM to work, the control of the platform must be taken from the user.

I remember when Vista first came out and it would degrade DVD playback quality on early HDTVs and monitors, because they were "not trusted". That was an early warning of what DRM is poised to do for those that keep ignoring its pervasive nature.

"Trusted Platform" affects the open ecosystem because it takes control from the user. The manufacturer (or an assignee thereof) has ultimate control of your device and can prevent you from using it in ways they do not approve of. A corporation, not YOU, has control over what software can be made and installed on your device. Nuff said.

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agree.... am all for the hinge

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flipping, bouncing off walls, waiting for N900 to come back from repair so I can shelve it when this arrives...

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before i buy N9 i want to know if there will be a upgrade path to MeeGo 1.1 as its transitional OS and its successor will be out in 2 Months.
It's not that i require a OS upgrade to make me purchase the N9 its that i want Nokia to let us know where we stand from day 1 for once.

To Nokia Will there be official MeeGo 1.1 for N9 or will we have to rely on community builds?
simple question answered early will stop 1000 page threads of angry people.
I look forward to hearing the Answer at Nokia World or Hearing you dodge the question.

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Size 360 x 640 pixels

destroys this leak for me.

though i bet it WILL look nearly identical to the n8.

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The hinge is indeed the only brilliant thing in that POS known as N97. Been hoping that Nokia would re-use it in something worth buying.

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If I can't reflash-and-have-DRM - then the original software is NOT open source. You just can't change anything or even verify that it is
an open source.

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I'm not entirely sure if you're serious, but just in case:

http://www.nokiausa.com/find-product...kia-n8/gallery

Edit: typo

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I was actually wondering about the hinge in the N97, is it forced to tilt or can it lie flat if you want?

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... except when you slide the keyboard out and start typing. you can't see what's on the screen any more then. (at least that's how it is on the n97.)

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Yuck. I don't like it. I hate "chiclet" style keyboards. Don't like silver finish either.

Looks cheap to me. Like the Nokia Booklet.

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forced tilt... it is awesome. for sure Nokia spent MUCH more time on that hinge than the software.

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"forced" to tilt - as all n9 protos leaked so far.

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.... plus all the other model numbers! i wonder what's going on. i'd have expected the n9 to be the only harmattan device we'll see, with later models running 'real' meego. and i certainly thought the rx-71 was a model planned in 2009 but abandoned eventually. surprising to see the name in this context now.

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Tilt is great. Touch pro2 has variable slide but it gets quite wonky with use.

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the angle of tilt does not look as steep as whats on N97.

@texrat if you don't like silver you can go for one of the other colours or wait for N9-01 which is certain to follow quickly

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...n8 has other colors; so will n9.

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It's indeed a bit hard to believe that the RX-71 would still be alive.
Could be that they just got all the protos and real devices running Maemo 5 or harmattan listed there.

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update for engadget, it is running meego:

Update 2: A closer look at the display reveals that this is running something that bears a heavy resemblance to the MeeGo screens we've seen so far -- and if you run the product code through Google, you see some Maemo 6-related bug tracking results, which of course has since become MeeGo. Good stuff, eh? Thanks, Sockatume!

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This is the back cover of a black version right?

http://i36.tinypic.com/34ybc4y.jpg

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Wasn't RX-71 only a joke in the kernel changesets? If it exists in some form or another, it might be (hardware/driver)-wise very similar to our N900/RX-51.

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I think they have only one. Silver front and black backcover.

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on the back cover picture its got the Proto number and Hardware Id number and also IMEI.
i'm sure someone will do some tracking find out who had that device last lol

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I am sure they will give him a bonus too! The leak has permeated both the major and minor news feeds and seems to be looked upon favorably!

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I just tweeted that this leak was a very good thing for Nokia. It shows enough that they're moving forward, it doesn't tip their whole hand yet - read: MeeGo wasn't shown off at too early a stage.

I'm not a fan of the form, but I know good hype when I see it.

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Btw the N9 will be using totally new battery from Nokia that's 3,8 volts rather than the 3,7V seen on every other phone.

Can that give hint about the CPU or maybe increase the battery life? Or it doesn't mean anything? :)

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This may give a rough idea of the sliding lock mechanism and its relation in size to other devices as I believe the dimensions will be similar:

http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/01/n...one-4-and-evo/

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In my opinion such a huge Spacebar is wasted space. In my opinion a Spacebar as big as a single button is enought. Perhaps they could have a single Button Spacebar for the skandinavian and most european keyboard layouts to get 2 additional buttons.

Having 4 seperated coursor keys are more important than a 3 buttons long space bar. :)

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I think it will still charge to 4.2volts when full or maximum of 4.25v. So the rating wont make much difference. Seriously this phone looks very good and more importantly it looks very solid! 4" screen also sounds excellent. Its going to be a tough decision wether I want to change my N900 to N9 when its released.

I wonder how much we can OC this thing as it has aluminum frame?

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Seems to me they have (partially) fixed the weak USB port.

If you look at this picture and that one, it seems they are using through-hole instead of surface-mount. Now we have to see how it fare in real life.

Where are the stereo speakers ?

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people are saying if you zoom on the back cover pictures and sharpen picture it reads 12mpx

the top picture in this link looks like a 12 without zooming by just clicking on it, if someone could try zoom and sharpen and let us know would be cool

http://tieba.baidu.com/f?kz=855903283

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The 6 pads below the usb connector.

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I want a system where I can use any app I buy but modify my device to suit my liking. I don't want a situation where I have to choose between using my DRMed apps or modifying a system component.

So basically it depends on how invasive the DRM is. Sadly most companies choose the overload on DRM in a futile attempt to try to block any an all piracy (and then the DRM gets circumvented and the legitimate users get shafted as a result while the pirates can do whatever they want..IE they are the winners in the entire situation).

If it's an invasive DRM system, I'll be rooting for the pirates. Because that'll be the only way for me to modify the system to my liking and still use the (once) DRMed apps.

Thank You. That's exactly my concern.