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Basically MS got the SD consortium to pull a fast one on every non-Windows user, and now Linux is a second-rate OS in the world of mobile memory cards. |
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If N9 is still a cortext A8 and 512MB ram then I will pass :)
I'm not going to buy a device that soon will be outdated since A9 is ready to be in the production line already. So i'll wait.. May be Intel MeeGo instead of Nokia MeeNO.. |
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SDXC opted for Microsoft's proprietary ExFAT as default filesystem, so devices with which you can use a SDXC card have to support r/w support for ExFAT. Only then do they support the SDXC standard. Hence, if you just keep your card inside your 'N9' and its formatted say Ext3FS nothing is wrong. If you stick the card in your Linux laptop it will also work. But when you stick it in anything else (a digital camera, a Windows machine, a Mac machine) it won't work since these devices cannot read/write Ext3FS. Theres some hope here 'n there tho Quote:
Unfortunately a lousy solution since it all won't work by default which equals to the consumer won't eat our dogfood but will eat Microsoft's proprietary ExFAT crap. |
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i would be satisfied with N900*2..
And then the 32GB flash mem doesnt have to follow the *2 rule... ( i am fine with 32GB on board with a SDHC, SDXC would be nice but i guess that exFat problem will not help..) so, dual core, 512MB ram (i think that would work fine for me looking to my current ram usage, 256 is just to little) 512MB rootfs instead of that 256MB but 1.3 did fix most of the problems for me in this area, but the larger this area is the faster the phone because this is the fastest flash there is on the N900.. But dual core is for me a must, the N900 is sometimes just to slow because i do multiply things at the same time... Don't think i will buy the N9 if it is still a A8 on 1Ghz, that wont be much faster then my N900 on 900Mhz.... (or the ram must do a lot) |
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Nokia wouldn't use the same A8 on the N9... They must've learn how mad and disappointed we were back in the days with the N97, they should know we will be enraged if they repeat the same mistake... The N9 is MEANT to go with the A9... Listen Up Nokia!
And also, for the Rootfs storage, I know Nokia must've been very involved within the Brainstorming idea around it, they know we need way more than 256mb |
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Just wait for 4-5 years and your dream will come true.I can still remember my 486 processor....technology is advancing fast
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Most of stutter during multitasking is due to IO not CPU, so you definitely want more ram before dual core cpu for multitasking..
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Why is everybody ignoring my dream of releasing the Nokia Morph... :(
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But still for some reason, I tend to think the N9 won't see the day of light with the A9 inside... It is still too recent. For exemple:
OMAP4440 - 1+ GHz dual-core ARM Cortex-A9 MPCore + PowerVR SGX540 GPU + C64x+ DSP + ISP There is no public need for all that power just yet... "The board itself measures 4.0 x 4.5 inches and includes not only the dual-core OMAP4 chip but 1GB of RAM and a plethora of connectivity. There’s WiFi and Bluetooth, HDMI capable of 1080p HD video, DVI, 10/100 ethernet and USB 2.0 (two Host, one OTG); you also get an SD/MMC memory card slot, serial port and audio in/out, along with various other expansion connectors." I think the N9 would be nice enough AT LEAST with: OMAP3640 - 1 GHz ARM Cortex A8 + PowerVR SGX530 GPU + 430 MHz C64x+ DSP + ISP What do you guys think? |
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That doesn't imply anything for the N9, of course, but there may be some MeeGo devices at some point that ship with exFAT support enabled out of the box. |
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If Nokia releases N9 with A8 and one month later the A9, with better preformance and less power consuming, comes it will look bad. With that I did not say I'm not going to buy it if it comes with A8, it will take more then that to make me stay away from that piece of awesomeness. |
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Sigh. Is history always doomed to repeat itself, gentleman?
(See discussions -- even my own, back when I still had some optimism:) -- about the N900 CPU back when it was in the making). Somebody will ALWAYS release something better The DAY after the N900+1 comes. You can count on that. If it doesn't happen, humanity is doomed. |
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Just use FeedingIt rss feeder, let it sync all the feeds. And then start doing something else. It is just crunching the cpu. |
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a) FeedintIt is a heavy IO use app because its downloading to local storage. You have both Network and Disk IO. b) IO heavy in most cases = cpu heavy. |
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But dont get me wrong, im still hoping and wishing the N9 comes with the A9 |
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And by the way I understand all those waiting for the A9 wich will probebly be out at max 2month after the N9. It is still 150% faster then the A8 and 2x better then SGX530. That is not a small difference! With that performance I guess even the laggy maemo 5 will be lightning fast! But really, if the N9 does not have A9 who would really go to android to get it? After having a N900 for 6 months I will never buy an android phone :) |
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If N9 doesn't get Dual Core Arm and more than than 512MB, more flash than 512MB then I will not get the N9.
End of story. Game Over. If Nokia wants to make a mark in the modern smartphone computing market then Nokia has to take a dive. Apple did that with their 3GS back in 2007. The hardware was the main factor to attract geeks like us and people who would want to do things faster than waiting 10seconds for a task to load. |
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So you want a bad OS instead of a almost top notch cpu? I do not really get your thinking here...
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I missed this:
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On the other hand, an A9 backing Windows Phone 7 (or iOS) would be the biggest waste of silicon I could think of, since the OS deliberately limits what you can do with it. |
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many of us would hope the sd card, be it hc or xc, would be mostly useful only as a permanent local storage rather than for swapping in and out for transferring data. (I thought that's why they invented wifi/bluetooth/usb ports :D) This is only reasonable, of course, if the USB functionality exists for external storage requirements. (which n900 lacks) The inability to (casually) use it in a m$ environment I regard as a highly desirable security feature - No one could simply pop the sd card out and read it in their wincrap device. I would probably (as suggested here) format ext3 and only ever plan on popping it into my other linux machines on the rare occasion of firing up a new test-boot system or cleanup... |
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The WA value is "Cpu is idle because it's waiting on IO to deliver data or code to execute". So it should be treated as idle for this purpose. Of course, if one process is executing something small at 100%, you wont notice the WA value going up. In that case, something like top running over ssh with 1s refresh to your pc's display and checking that display for processes with "D" in their status column finds all the processes stuck waiting on IO.. |
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Nokia to launch Meego in 2011
http://news.ciol.com/News/News/News-...2011/142242/0/ |
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^ just wait for http://conference2010.meego.com/ no blog speculation based on intels information. nokia hasnt said anything about meego ... all they talk about is sym3
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Elop announced that Nokia's first Meego device won't be til 2011.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/21/s...-a-2011-event/ It's spun other ways on other different sites. |
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