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volt 2010-10-14 13:06

Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by longcat (Post 840836)
Hm, where did you get that arg?



i really don't know what's the big issue about expecting an update for f**king flash player ? i know there was a huge discussion about this all the way the talk.maemo.org but seriously ? AN UPDATE ? :D

can't believe

Well, since Nokia says "sure you can have an update, if Adobe provides it", and Adobe says "sure you can have an update, if Nokia provides it", the status of the update is as clear as a binary value. Will it come? No. Why not? Because Adobe wants money for it. That's how they make money.

Adobe has an partial or complete update available and are happy to sell it to Nokia. Nokia has already bought the previous version and that's what's on the spec sheets. They won't be buying another, they have no obligation to give you more than you originally paid for, and they may even hope that Adobe decides just to release what they've made anyway.

Either way, that's hardly firmware and would more than likely be announced as a separate upgrade instead of as a firmware fix.

volt 2010-10-14 13:11

Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by maxximuscool (Post 840840)
Yeah this is my web cam photo of i'm not convinced. As requested!

hahaha yay Did i just became an apple employee? wow scored! Just got a job without trying. Thanks Volt Jobs, say thanks to your brother Steve Jobs for me too okay. :p

That's not you. I Can Tell It's a Shop Because of Some of the Pixels. Also, he's from Barcelona and knows nothing.

I always suspected you were here under false pretences, now you've exposed yourself in truth by falsely identifying yourself as Manuel. I understand that you expected I must have had top level inside information from Steve Jobs to discover it, but it was just down to your questionable acting skills. So, proof positive. Which ttly confirms Hara's identity.

kevinp93 2010-10-14 13:12

Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NvyUs (Post 840882)
look at what arrived as i said that there was knock on door
http://i849.photobucket.com/albums/a...ent-ZV8EKV.jpg

Well.. I received my N8 yesterday afternoon (dark grey). I got really excited and literally locked my N900 away permanantely, until I heard that PR1.3 has officially been confirmed... :D

Either way, the N8 is not the same as the N900.. Something about the N900 still draws my attention over the N8.. It maybe the hardware-keyboard or the 'open-ness' of the OS...

:)

volt 2010-10-14 13:16

Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
I just think the N900 is better looking than the N8.

You know, like a natural, chubby but cute girl dressed in a nice black outfit, versus a fashion model, tall and weird looking and dressed in the weirdest dresses that money can buy.

So news about the N900 is clearly more wonderful than the N8 unboxing.

PipoXtreme 2010-10-14 13:39

Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
ou thats great... then I can save my money to buy a new phone... when the release come soon , the N900 will be the only nice dual boot system on this globe :):cool:

volt 2010-10-14 13:44

Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
Isn't the N900 already a nice dual boot system, if you install one of the bootloaders available?

AlMehdi 2010-10-14 14:16

Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
I hope they decide on Burg as a boot loader

ikirk 2010-10-14 14:21

Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
The Nokia Blog have received this statement from Nokia:

The Nokia N900 is used as development hardware for platform developers working with MeeGo on ARM hardware architecture. While the software from the MeeGo project runs on the Nokia N900 for development purposes, Nokia does not intend to provide a dual-boot OS option to consumers in upcoming N900 commercial software releases as we want to ensure that we provide the best possible experience designed for that device. The meego.com blog post was primarily targeted to the audience reading the blog: MeeGo developers.

Hmmmm... oh well... we'll just have to do it the difficult way then. ;)

joelsk 2010-10-14 14:21

Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
Finally...
some faith restored in Nokia..
didn't take much now did it?

volt 2010-10-14 14:28

Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
I would hope that Nokia is aware that the primary part of the audience of that blog is in fact N900 owners. I do fear they underestimate us.

joelsk 2010-10-14 14:30

Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ikirk (Post 840978)
The Nokia Blog have received this statement from Nokia:

The Nokia N900 is used as development hardware for platform developers working with MeeGo on ARM hardware architecture. While the software from the MeeGo project runs on the Nokia N900 for development purposes, Nokia does not intend to provide a dual-boot OS option to consumers in upcoming N900 commercial software releases as we want to ensure that we provide the best possible experience designed for that device. The meego.com blog post was primarily targeted to the audience reading the blog: MeeGo developers.

Hmmmm... oh well... we'll just have to do it the difficult way then. ;)

Buggered! Again!

Stskeeps 2010-10-14 14:38

Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ikirk (Post 840978)
Hmmmm... oh well... we'll just have to do it the difficult way then. ;)

My goal is to make it simple:

* Flash a bootloader to kernel area.
* Write a MeeGo image to microsd.
* If microsd is inserted at boot, MeeGo starts
* If not, Maemo starts.

.. is that easy enough?

Mandibela 2010-10-14 14:42

Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by maxximuscool (Post 840787)
The most saddest news is ISO and camera function will not be fixed and nothing will be added to it as well. Which mean no extra function to the camera app and No FIXED to the bunged camera app.

https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?...84#add_comment

Well, we'll see. I'm just saying that because I hope this will be sorted out.

They might not update the internal bugtracker until a release is ready, or they might have altered the builtin app so much, that it's not relevant anymore, or whatever. We'll see it when the update gets here.

ikirk 2010-10-14 14:57

Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stskeeps (Post 840995)
My goal is to make it simple:

* Flash a bootloader to kernel area.
* Write a MeeGo image to microsd.
* If microsd is inserted at boot, MeeGo starts
* If not, Maemo starts.

.. is that easy enough?

Sure is. I meant difficult in the sense we will not have any help/support from Nokia, which would have been nice.

cfh11 2010-10-14 14:59

Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ikirk (Post 841007)
Sure is. I meant difficult in the sense we will not have any help/support from Nokia, which would have been nice.

But seriously, when have you ever contacted Nokia for a software questions instead of just coming here?

Remember, real men flash their device at least once a week :p

John McClane 2010-10-14 15:01

Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 185 (74 members and 111 guests)

111 Guests. . Come in its Free, fun, and most of the time we are helped. :p
Myself experience.;)

arora.rohan 2010-10-14 15:02

Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
The only thing about Meego from Sd card..is the speed issue.. maybe class 8 sd cards..would help or something.. :/

louispires 2010-10-14 15:08

Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
looks like some of them followed your advice John:
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 201 (87 members and 114 guests)

gerbick 2010-10-14 15:08

Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
Wait... I hate to ask - I've scanned this entire thread which has grown from the first few pages to 14 by now... but has something been officially stated - other than the fact that Nokia won't be adding dual-boot for consumers - that I've somehow missed?

Feel free to slam me with some links and knowledge.

jsa 2010-10-14 15:09

Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by volt (Post 840985)
I would hope that Nokia is aware that the primary part of the audience of that blog is in fact N900 owners. I do fear they underestimate us.

Frankly, I think it's the opposite, they overestimate us. Every time there's a N900/handset related blog post in meego.com TMO turns into a big lump of misunderstanding.. to the point that they/others usually have to come here to explain what they mean.

arcticrobot 2010-10-14 15:12

Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
For guys who suggest merging this post and PR 1.3 speculations post:
you have absolutely every right to request so, but this post is not about PR 1.3 It's about our N900 not being dead and about some promising future for this unique device.
If I understand correctly, Stskeeps is one of the developers and I would like to thank him, his teammates and involved community members for doing this job for the rest of us.

adhrie 2010-10-14 15:13

Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
@arora.rohan
kingston already released a 16 GB micro SDHC class 10
http://www.kingston.com/press/2010/flash/02b.asp

that might be fast enough...

crown77 2010-10-14 15:14

Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
Wake me up when 1.3 has arrived ..

tomislav 2010-10-14 15:30

Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
WHAT OTHER NEW STAFF WE will get with 1.3 except dual boot

gabby131 2010-10-14 15:42

Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tomislav (Post 841033)
WHAT OTHER NEW STAFF WE will get with 1.3 except dual boot

hmmm....good question......maybe Chuck Norris mode on all apps.....

ossipena 2010-10-14 15:43

Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by longcat (Post 840806)
lol :) bending the truth a bit ?

nope. maps, flash etc isn't coming at least from nokia via PR. prove me wrong if you can. (and keep in mind that someone allegedly from nokia has said those aren't coming so you would have to find better proof pro them)

shockgiga 2010-10-14 15:54

Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
how soon is soon though? i just can't wait to stuff my n900 with it!

*Sonic* 2010-10-14 15:55

Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ossipena (Post 841051)
nope. maps, flash etc isn't coming at least from nokia via PR. prove me wrong if you can. (and keep in mind that someone allegedly from nokia has said those aren't coming so you would have to find better proof pro them)

I wouldnt have thought any of those would come with a PR release

To me PR releases are to address bugs in the form of fixes / patches etc, maybe upgrade the kernel for future proofing and again bugfixes and maybe just maybe add *some* new features

I would be happy with more portrait support (selectable) for some of the apps and tagging of items in app manager (I know there is faster app manager which I now use) and a few other bits n bobs

videohese 2010-10-14 16:36

Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by arcticrobot (Post 841018)
Stskeeps is one

i must second that post ;)

bobaseth 2010-10-14 16:48

Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by crown77 (Post 841021)
Wake me up when 1.3 has arrived ..


Yeah...,wake me up as well when 1.3 is officially confrimed to arrived!

Grok 2010-10-14 16:52

Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
I feel like i'm in a middle school's girls washroom......:eek:

Listening to the gossip and banter.:rolleyes:

Patroclo 2010-10-14 16:58

Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
I am reading that the dual boott is coming but not for the consumers. What does it mean exactly? That I am not allowed to install Meego on N900?
Some people is allowed and some is not?

shockgiga 2010-10-14 17:00

Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
it might mean that there's an upgrade only option for non-developers.

but then, how are the installations going to be controlled anyway?

elie-7 2010-10-14 17:13

Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
best news i had since i broke up with my girl friend, don't get me wrong i like having more than one OS ;) .
ok ok ok, pr1.3 is coming people, a changelog would be great now, i hope they put some of the software tweaks the awesome people here worked hard for, matan's and mAG's modified hildon desktop and home, maybe some cool fast transitions like the black plastic ones, more than 4 homescreens, the swappolube changes,.... really the guys here did one hell of a job and we shouldn.t just forget it .
now back to the point, well.... i have to say thank you nokia, i was defently going for another than nokia phone for my next phone, no i'm not gonna leave nokia for good, well i guess we didn't understand what nokia ment with 'we won't be supporting the n900 with meego' , they ment we will guive meego, and we will pay a meego team to port it on your n900, just make sure we aren't responsible for anything that might happens, well i'm very fine with that (i already overclocked, tweaked every file and..... ). pr1.3 is what i love to have, i know that the n900 felt like having a fresh ui after pr1.2, so some bug fixes, a new ovi store, (maybe ovi maps, no flash, we will get it in meego or froyo !), maybe a better video capture, some things that can make the n900 even faster , if thats possible .
people get ready to be spoiled with **** loads of awesome official apps, get ready to taste the mobile future (meego), we can proudly say that we have the best phone in the world, all the android ishits and.... can look up to us, as always.....!
just one advice to nokia, make sure you have some phones in stock, because people wants to taste meego, or if you got a full portrait mode...

erki232 2010-10-14 17:14

Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
Flash 10.1 might buy from ovi store. This might only way to get flash for N900.

N900 is developer hardware. Best joke.:D

wmarone 2010-10-14 17:18

Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Patroclo (Post 841096)
I am reading that the dual boott is coming but not for the consumers. What does it mean exactly? That I am not allowed to install Meego on N900?
Some people is allowed and some is not?

It means that it will be available but the average person will not want to use it, as MeeGo is not ready for primetime yet. You will, however, be able to set yourself up to boot MeeGo very easily should you want to.

Spr33 2010-10-14 17:23

Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
When they say not for consumers they mean the n900 won't be sold with meego for consumers...

elie-7 2010-10-14 17:26

Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by erki232 (Post 841112)
Flash 10.1 might buy from ovi store. This might only way to get flash for N900.

N900 is developer hardware. Best joke.:D

i actually posted that back at nokia discussions, and PMing with a moderator, he said that he forwarded it to the right departement and this might happen. i don't mind paying 5 $ for flash 10.1

jsa 2010-10-14 17:27

Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
Anyone can "dual boot"(boot without any effect to the already installed Maemo 5) MeeGo right now on your N900 if you want, but it isn't in a condition where end users would expect their OS to be.. hence "for developers".

To dual boot MeeGo now, you have to connect the phone to a computer with a USB cable and temporarily load the kernel when you want to boot MeeGo. "Easily dual boot" will remove the need for this.

Some people might've had the idea that when your PR1.3 OTA update is installed, you're greeted with a fancy menu asking which OS to boot. No, MeeGo isn't included in PR1.3. Anyone(developer or not) can get an image and kernel from meego.com and try it, but it's not something the PR1.3 update does for you. It doesn't happen automatically, or with just a couple of clicks as "consumers" might expect.

Dave999 2010-10-14 17:29

Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by erki232 (Post 841112)
Flash 10.1 might buy from ovi store. This might only way to get flash for N900.

N900 is developer hardware. Best joke.:D

where is the joke?


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