Re: PR1.3: users, was it worth the wait?
 

Read carefully to what i wrote. I said iti s no Use for us. it is meant for Developers.

Re: PR1.3: users, was it worth the wait?
 

They need it for developing apps using Qt 4.7 and its great eye-candy features, and you need it to run those apps.
So it's a release for users, too, as its a requirement for running Qt 4.7 apps.

Re: PR1.3: users, was it worth the wait?
 

yes if you enjoy hundreds of people running and shouting at panic, jamming tmo with constant f5 after asking silly questions.

Re: PR1.3: users, was it worth the wait?
 

Actually, about two weeks ago (Oct 15, 2010)

Re: PR1.3: users, was it worth the wait?
 

What's an f5?

Re: PR1.3: users, was it worth the wait?
 

A Linux-based network traffic loadbalancer appliance.
But in this case, I think it's just the key for refreshing the browser. :)

Re: PR1.3: users, was it worth the wait?
 

I've observed three nice changes:
1 the yellow volume graphics (when turning sound up/down) does not seem to make the N900 stutter anymore
2 portrait to landscape (and reverse) seems much snappier
3 internet stations seems to work much better (less dropouts)

Re: PR1.3: users, was it worth the wait?
 

Nokia tore up their operating system plans last week, doing away with Symbian v4 and going to shorter release cycles.
One of the consequences is picking a single shared runtime across all their future smart phones. And that's QT4.7 (etc.), and honestly they'll stick with it for more than 6 months this time...

Re: PR1.3: users, was it worth the wait?
 

Let's hope so.

Re: PR1.3: users, was it worth the wait?
 

Hi all,

I have installed yet as need a PC, but can someone tell me if it fixed the OAuth issue with Twitter in contacts ?

Cheers

Colm

Re: PR1.3: users, was it worth the wait?
 

I backed up the phone with its inbuilt back-up programme.

Tried then OTA update to PR1.3, but it asked for PC Suite.

Set up PC Suite on the new laptop: it didn't obviously work.

Then connected to Ovi Suite with cable: it blocked me three times. Then it wanted to back up my 4.7K songs. I cancelled back-up and went for a basic Ovi Suite back-up.

PR1.3 update took about 10 minutes. The recovery from the Ovi Suite didn't work. It didn't find the phone and then just refused to go right.

I recovered the phone from the inbuilt programme. Then it downloaded missing 79 programmes for about two hours.

The whole operation took almost 3 hours. Hope it was worth it. I haven't obviously been able to see if everything works.

Re: PR1.3: users, was it worth the wait?
 

Have you tried @scene. IMHO it is better for Youtube videos.

Re: PR1.3: users, was it worth the wait?
 

Does this allow up to 9 home screens? If it doesn't then I will just ignore the update.

Re: PR1.3: users, was it worth the wait?
 

Yes, via Matan's modification.

Re: PR1.3: users, was it worth the wait?
 

i update to 1.3 and i loose my 9 desktops, im trying to get it again but no way to get it, somebody more have this problem?

if i know i lose my desktops i never update cuz i can not see nothing new whit the update, all working exactly same like before but whitout my desktops
anybody know how i can get it again? i try whit the aplication desktop+, that works perfect before and also to installing again matans hildom desktop and hildom home and nothing:(

Re: PR1.3: users, was it worth the wait?
 

I upgraded to this sw yesterday using PCSuite. I restored all my applications, contacts, messages, etc from the backup stored on the N900.
Since that time I am experiencing fishy operations of the message/call log. Somethimes the threads of Skype for different persons are mixed (at least, when I click to a thread, it opens another conversation, which I know doesn't belong to that person). Also sometimes I know, that I received an SMS, but when i go to the conversations, I can find nothing there or I can see something, but with no recipient's name or phone number.
And what is even worse: suddenly all my SMSs disappear. It happened with me twice today. i tried to delete the database file, I thought the structure might have been changed, but it did go better.

Does anyone else have the same experience or is something wrong for me only? One extra info: i am using the same Skype account from my PC also, so sometimes I reply from the PC, sometimes from N900. It had issues with PR1.2 also because of this, but far not this serious! My messages were there, simply it was diffucult to open it, if I replied last fro the PC to a thread.

Re: PR1.3: users, was it worth the wait?
 

I wasn't expecting flash ( can never tell with adobe involved ) but I am rather disappointed that this release didn't receive any HTML5 Audio/Video love.

As far as I can tell both the gecko based microb browser, and the Qt4.7 bundled Webkit engine are still lacking any HTML5 Audio/Video support.

Still an essential release, my understanding is that this release will provide binary compatibility for MeeGo Applications. So not even a recompile is necessary to run a MeeGo 1.1 arm app on a pr1.3 N900.

I'm pretty sure Qt apps originally developed for Symbian will still require a recompile however.

Re: PR1.3: users, was it worth the wait?
 

I'll try this here:

I have tried to install the OTA update, but it will just download the 44.9 mb worth of data and just sit there on the progress bar. It dosnt tell me to use the PC Suite or USB or anything. Any ideas?

Thanks

Re: PR1.3: users, was it worth the wait?
 

I'm a bit disappointed, frankly. They fixed 100 bugs, true, but of those only 3 or 4 actually manifested on my device, and of those some were already patched by others, like the new pulseaudio package.

True, they fixed that annoying phone glitch with the buttons running all over on ring and with the sum of all issues it feels snappier, but then again it already felt snappier when I increased computing power by 50% via overclocking.

It's good that they delivered and to my understanding the new Qt and stuff really will boost the device's ability to get new apps. It would be great news if it weren't for the fact that -devel seems to have fewer and fewer additions.

So yes, thanks, Nokia, and if the Qt thing pans out it'll be worth the wait. If development continues to slow down then it wasn't worth it. Frankly, I'd rather have the buttons freak out again if they'd fix the alarm sound shortage or something useful. If you don't know what I'm talking about, then my N900 randomly decides to only ring (speakers) for about 5 seconds on an alarm. UI still is lit and all, but no sound. Sometimes 5 seconds is too little to wake me up.

@wakkamis: It does that. Mine spent maybe 10 minutes at 0%. Let it be. It takes a while.

Re: PR1.3: users, was it worth the wait?
 

Who doesn't? It's rather hilarious IMO...

Re: PR1.3: users, was it worth the wait?
 

I'm having some problems going to PR1.3 ...

"To update your device to this version of the operating system you must use Nokia PC Suite on your PC. Connect the device to your PC via a USB cable and launch the application."

The problem is, as near as my research shows, Nokia PC Suite doesn't run on my PC, which happens to be a Mac. How can I get this going? Please advise, thank you!

Re: PR1.3: users, was it worth the wait?
 

You probably need to uninstall some apps before you can upgrade OTA... GLTron is one which I remember causes issues, but a quick scan through the fora will no doubt highlight other candidates.

Re: PR1.3: users, was it worth the wait?
 

kindly on the details tab if you have some app thats conflicting with the update, uninstall it from AppMan then proceed with the update

this happened to me also yesterday
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Re: PR1.3: users, was it worth the wait?
 

Definitely worth it.

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This update shows a good improvement in how updates should work. I happened to be connected to WiFi, got a single 84 MB update, then the phone did its thing.
After two reboots everything was in place, save the kernel-power package.

The phone seems much more responsive and the under-the-hood changes are just terrific.

It's good to see that the device has real support from Nokia !

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Re: PR1.3: users, was it worth the wait?
 

Thank you so much for the information. I'll do this tonight when I'm back safely near my own wi-fi, not the work stuff. Great information, I appreciate it!

Re: PR1.3: users, was it worth the wait?
 

Was it worth it, I can't really comment yet as I've just done it OTA. What I can say, and I am VERY surprised, given that it was totally painless for me. I was expecting total mayhem so had the USB cable at hand, ready to reflash. So if there is any improvement (I honestly had no problems anyway), given that it was so easy, then yes.

Downloaded, installed and rebooted without a sinlge hiccup:confused: Apt-get the power kernel, and everything is as it should be, my custom start up scripts are running, overclocked at 1.1Ghz, Temp displayed on desktop, all apps still there etc..

BTW, I really like the OVI message feature, nice UI and very useful.

Re: PR1.3: users, was it worth the wait?
 

I think it was worth it, better than nothing I suppose.
I updated via re-flashing as I had a billion apps installed and wanted to start again. Did not flash the eMMC though.

No issue at all with the re-flash to PR1.3.
It kept all contacts, SMS, calendar and data. Apps that I really used I had to re-install as expected.

Noticeable changes:
* Much smoother and more responsive desktop swiping, transitions and kinetic scrolling.
* Emails load faster.
* Web sites load faster.
* Battery life does seem better, maybe 10% extra time.

Hopefully extra features will be added in later updates since QT4.7 support should allow apps built for Symbian to be more easily ported over to Maemo. If my understanding of this is correct ??

* Voice dialing would be a nice add, definitely useful when driving.

Re: PR1.3: users, was it worth the wait?
 

It seems the built in Media Player still hasn't been optimized for AVI (xvid) videos in the PR1.3 update.
A 40 min AVI at 624x352 resolution with data rate 1200kpbs drops frames every 10 to 15 secs or so.
Still watchable but you can tell its not smoothly playing back.

The same AVI plays perfectly smoothly with KMPlayer (mplayer selected).

Re: PR1.3: users, was it worth the wait?
 

i think we're starting to see the effects of having new people at top mgmt. plans are changing.