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casketizer 2011-02-01 04:29

Re: Fennec 4 beta 3
 
Youtube Enabler DOES NOT SUPPORT fennec/firefox 4.x, only 1.x

I wrote a guide how to get flash working:
http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=933094&postcount=1

WhiteWolf 2011-02-01 21:07

Re: Fennec 4 beta 3
 
Thank you very much. Now if that works.

automagic68 2011-02-02 05:17

Re: Fennec 4 beta 3
 
is there gonna be Fennec for MeeGo 1.2?

dsawhney 2011-02-02 05:22

Re: Fennec 4 beta 3
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by automagic68 (Post 933874)
is there gonna be Fennec for MeeGo 1.2?

Fennec is the default browser for Meego

gruik 2011-02-02 10:21

Re: Fennec 4 beta 3
 
the new FF beta 4 is stil slow, buggy. It's unbelievable that team can't do a clean job.

yukop4 2011-02-02 10:27

Re: Fennec 4 beta 3
 
fennec
no relation of fennel
is in the words of that great sage
obe kanobi

a total waste of time
so why bother

legoman666 2011-02-02 22:23

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Oh god that new FF4 beta is next to useless.

bobaseth 2011-02-03 01:01

Re: Fennec 4 beta 3
 
Hey every one? I tried to download the Firefox 4 Beta 4 released today and when I try to install it, it installs Firefox 1.1? Any help? Thanks!

JayBEE 2011-02-03 02:38

Re: Fennec 4 beta 3
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dsawhney (Post 933879)
Fennec is the default browser for Meego

The last time I checked, a couple of months ago, the Qt version of fennec is the default browser for MeeGo. Not the GTK version most of us use in Maemo.

dsawhney 2011-02-03 02:54

Re: Fennec 4 beta 3
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JayBEE (Post 934676)
The last time I checked, a couple of months ago, the Qt version of fennec is the default browser for MeeGo. Not the GTK version most of us use in Maemo.

Isn't that obvious since Meego UI is Qt based and Nightly builds of Fennec for Maemo come in both the flavors - GTK and Qt, whatever version you use is up to you.

Acidspunk 2011-02-03 03:14

Re: Fennec 4 beta 3
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gruik (Post 934037)
the new FF beta 4 is stil slow, buggy. It's unbelievable that team can't do a clean job.

Kinda makes you appreciate the work Nokia put into optimizing microB even more. It's such a nice browser.

JayBEE 2011-02-03 04:10

Re: Fennec 4 beta 3
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dsawhney (Post 934679)
Isn't that obvious since Meego UI is Qt based and Nightly builds of Fennec for Maemo come in both the flavors - GTK and Qt, whatever version you use is up to you.

Yep! Just making sure it's noted! :)

JayBEE 2011-02-03 04:15

Re: Fennec 4 beta 3
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gruik (Post 934037)
the new FF beta 4 is stil slow, buggy. It's unbelievable that team can't do a clean job.

Slow, as compared to?

Buggy, perhaps, that's why it's still in Beta. Either way, the bugs are definitely going away and the quality is getting better.

Also keep in mind that the mobile fennec team is also working on a version of the same for Android...

scribbles 2011-02-03 05:14

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The Fennec 4 Beta 5 is out and have been using since Sunday.

http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.o.../binary-armel/

dsawhney 2011-02-03 05:36

Re: Fennec 4 beta 3
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by scribbles (Post 934725)
The Fennec 4 Beta 5 is out and have been using since Sunday.

http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.o.../binary-armel/

That's the nightly build, the version # is bumped up every time a beta is released. Since beta 4 was released a few days back, version # for nightly builds is now beta5

You can read more about issues being fixed in a nightly build here - http://hg.mozilla.org/mobile-browser

gruik 2011-02-03 09:31

Re: Fennec 4 beta 3
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JayBEE (Post 934702)
Slow, as compared to?

Buggy, perhaps, that's why it's still in Beta. Either way, the bugs are definitely going away and the quality is getting better.

Also keep in mind that the mobile fennec team is also working on a version of the same for Android...

-FF takes 10 secs or more to launch
-when you select the adress bar you don't know if you select the right champ because it's not higlighted (sorry for my english)
-on WiFi open pages is slow, on 3G+ it's worst

The android version is far, far better! I'm surprised! It's fast, comforatble. I prefer this version.

Turkishflavor 2011-02-03 09:35

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but nothing beats MicroB!
fastest browser on any mobile phone. :) much more faster than iphone 4, samsung galaxy etc. :)

raaj13 2011-02-21 16:54

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new nightly version available now beta6.Anybody tested it?

scribbles 2011-02-24 10:24

Re: Fennec 4 beta 3
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by raaj13 (Post 951982)
new nightly version available now beta6.Anybody tested it?

Once you get into the browser, everything is very fast... I'm pleased with it. Did about a 10 min test at home using wi-fi. I will have to see how it handles "real world" conditions using 3.5G. Seems like a big improvement on Beta5.

Andrew_b 2011-02-24 10:39

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I've used this a few time too. Takes longer to load. The plug-ins I use all seem to work. I noticed that 'double click zooming' seems to be more accurate and efficient. Pages are loading faster, but I'm still seeing the grey honeycomb when fast scrolling up and down through already loaded pages. Didn't notice it before but there was a user agent plug-in which I've added allowing me to choose which versions of websites are loaded.

No crashes. Can't be far off final now.

AndyNokia232 2011-02-24 11:27

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Big big big improvement over the last beta, much faster and has more of an expected, normal feel to it, close to MicroB. I do, however, see plenty of not-so-sexy grey honeycomb too when scrolling around. But the speed issue is better so I'm happy :)

Oh, it did crash on weather.com though - froze up my N900 for about 3 minutes :-/ I'm sure it's not common

ivgalvez 2011-02-24 15:28

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I still feel it slow as hell.

Screen unresponsive from time to time, laggy when changing tabs. The grey honeycombs is not really important compared with the slowness.

P.D. Running with Kernel Power @850Mhz

aanckar 2011-02-24 15:33

Re: Fennec 4 beta 3
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ivgalvez (Post 954623)
I still feel it slow as hell.

Screen unresponsive from time to time, laggy when changing tabs. The grey honeycombs is not really important compared with the slowness.

I have really had the same experience (with both stock and custom kernel) with all the versions of Fennec, never really noticed any difference.

Stonik 2011-02-24 20:34

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Beta 5 still feels slow, one or two tabs is ok but with more pages it makes the whole device sluggy.

But... I ran the SunSpider JavaScript Benchmark (v0.9) just for the fun of it and the score was 6322.2 ms! That just throws N900 to the 3rd place of single core devices in Anands list of Sunspider benchmarks.

http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/graph4179/35415.png

If we only could get the same JavaScript engine to MicroB!

ivgalvez 2011-02-25 09:51

Re: Fennec 4 beta 3
 
It seems that if I disable Swappoluble tunings the UI is a bit more responsive, but from time to time it freezes for a while. It's extremely CPU consuming and cannot do any other tasks while using it.

Downloading pages is extremely slow compared to MicroB or with Safari in iPhone 3GS. I don't see the point on this javascript tests.

Tabbed browsing is almost unusable due to the lack of responsiveness.

Nice UI and Firefox Sync could be great but I cannot use it. I'm afraid it won't be usable until we have dual core 1.5 GHz with 1Gb in our pockets.

Croco 2011-02-25 11:09

Re: Fennec 4 beta 3
 
I have installed firefox beta 5 but after I launch it opens and it freeze. I cannot do any action but going to multitasking and close it from there.
Can anyone knows how can I make it work?

raaj13 2011-02-25 14:58

Re: Fennec 4 beta 3
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stonik (Post 954785)
Beta 5 still feels slow, one or two tabs is ok but with more pages it makes the whole device sluggy.

But... I ran the SunSpider JavaScript Benchmark (v0.9) just for the fun of it and the score was 6322.2 ms! That just throws N900 to the 3rd place of single core devices in Anands list of Sunspider benchmarks.

http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/graph4179/35415.png

If we only could get the same JavaScript engine to MicroB!

and nightly build beta 6?

Bratag 2011-02-25 15:21

Re: Fennec 4 beta 3
 
Problem I have with the latest beta is that when its sitting in the background - it is still consuming 75% of my cpu.

Thats just not usable.

sygys 2011-02-25 15:29

Re: Fennec 4 beta 3
 
my system runs 5% all the time when fennec in background.

Parb 2011-02-25 15:44

Re: Fennec 4 beta 3
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Croco (Post 955112)
I have installed firefox beta 5 but after I launch it opens and it freeze. I cannot do any action but going to multitasking and close it from there.
Can anyone knows how can I make it work?

I've found that that happens to me, too. I have to reboot (or should I say turn my N900 off and then back on) before Firefox Mobile works.

Croco 2011-02-25 16:01

Re: Fennec 4 beta 3
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Parb (Post 955273)
I've found that that happens to me, too. I have to reboot (or should I say turn my N900 off and then back on) before Firefox Mobile works.

Unfortunately it still does not work. It might be a conflict between Firefox and something else I installed. But I don't know what :(
I believe I will have to wait for the commercial version

Spyker 2011-02-25 16:35

Re: Fennec 4 beta 3
 
I've just tested the current version (tagged beta6).
I still feel it slow. The web page composition is too slow IMHO, it often displays me the checkerboard image while scrolling to much.
Now that Mozilla has a good javascript engine, they should focus on web page rendering and composition, as they still aren't as fast as the stock browser for that.

slender 2011-02-25 16:44

Re: Fennec 4 beta 3
 
Still bit too slow.
To me most important thing is that when I see half loaded page I´m able to scroll immediately it not after 0,5-2s. Opera is just is amazingly fast when it comes to page loading time and scrolling speed and realtime page rendering speed. Additionally amazing thing is that it has been like that from start :| (~May 11, 2010)

prankster 2011-04-17 15:26

Re: Fennec 4 beta 3
 
where to get it ?mates
is it there in any repository ?


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