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geneven 2011-01-30 10:57
Re: [Council] Maemo 5 gets community OS updates
 
It appears I have to remove modified hildon manager and the supercool nine screens and desktop+ and desktop-swithcher to use this.

I'm not willing to give up those benefits.

stevomanu 2011-01-30 11:07
Re: [Council] Maemo 5 gets community OS updates
 
i use modified-hildon-desktop_3.3 an hildon-home_0.3.66-2+0m5

whats the difference between them an your new hildon desktop which are for queen beecon desktop switcher will your still work do you think !

zdanee 2011-01-30 11:13
Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by hqh (Post 931782)
Setting qtm-maemo-metapackage to manually installed should fix the autoremover stuff. I also set dsme-thermalobject-surface and libqt4-translations as manually installed as the autoremover tried to remove them as well.

"apt-get install qtm-maemo-metapackage dsme-thermalobject-surface libqt4-translations" marks them as manually installed
This fixed things, thanks!

funkmunk 2011-01-30 11:17
Re: [Council] Maemo 5 gets community OS updates
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Megaltariak (Post 931792)
Just remove the name of the packages that you want to unpin from the file.
This is what my preference file in /etc/apt/preference looks like

Code:
Package:
Pin: release a=unstable
Pin-Priority: 1001
Now when i try apt-get -f upgrade in X-terminal i get

invalid record in the preference file,no Package header

What am i doing wrong? Sorry if i sound stupid

michaaa62 2011-01-30 11:23
Re: [Council] Maemo 5 gets community OS updates
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by geneven (Post 931800)
It appears I have to remove modified hildon manager and the supercool nine screens and desktop+ and desktop-swithcher to use this.

I'm not willing to give up those benefits.
Isn't that included in the release to have more than those 4 Nokia desktops?
It persisted on my device, please post if there are any blocking issues from you package managing apt-get.

Dark_Angel85 2011-01-30 11:24
Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by michaaa62 (Post 931798)
Try to get things straight
Code:
sudo gainroot
apt-get update
apt-get install -f
If this is not sufficient do
Code:
dpkg --reconfigure -a
to start the configuration of the packages, that are stuck.
erm...

dpkg --reconfigure -a doesn't work? tells me to choose other commands

michaaa62 2011-01-30 11:27
Re: [Council] Maemo 5 gets community OS updates
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by funkmunk (Post 931806)
This is what my preference file in /etc/apt/preference looks like

Code:
Package:
Pin: release a=unstable
Pin-Priority: 1001
Now when i try apt-get -f upgrade in X-terminal i get

invalid record in the preference file,no Package header

What am i doing wrong? Sorry if i sound stupid
Says it all, no expression after Package is invalid for apt-get. Remove the block of three lines for modified-hildon-desktop or if this is just the whole content of this file remove it .
I also edited my above post to be more precise.

Alastor89 2011-01-30 11:32
Re: [Council] Maemo 5 gets community OS updates
 
I haven't the preference file in my etc/apt folder :S

michaaa62 2011-01-30 11:33
Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark_Angel85 (Post 931808)
erm...

dpkg --reconfigure -a doesn't work? tells me to choose other commands
You are right, sorry for the error. Should be
Code:
dpkg --configure -a
I edit the above instructions as well!

Dark_Angel85 2011-01-30 11:34
Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
edit the last post

i did

dpkg --configure -a instead and it seems to work... now FAM works perfectly.

THanks so much

Dark_Angel85 2011-01-30 11:47
Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
hmmm... looks like i cannot patch the desaturize patch without replacing the hildon-desktop update by the SSU...

I really liked the desature option instead of blur

michaaa62 2011-01-30 11:47
Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
Did you also notice the valuable piece of information http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...2&postcount=90 to get rid of autoremove of vital packages?

Dark_Angel85 2011-01-30 11:55
Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
yup. I posted the screenshots wondering what they were

mikecomputing 2011-01-30 12:07
Re: [Council] Maemo 5 gets community OS updates
 
Those SSU does this also include updates of Qt and qt-components/meego integration in Maemo5?

or is it "only" bugfixes to core apps?

Just curious :)

michaaa62 2011-01-30 12:32
Re: [Council] Maemo 5 gets community OS updates
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alastor89 (Post 931811)
I haven't the preference file in my etc/apt folder :S
Why are you bothered? This file is just for installing or updating packages in an unusual way to overcome dependencies of meta packages.

Alastor89 2011-01-30 12:35
Re: [Council] Maemo 5 gets community OS updates
 
Thank you for the reply... Excuse me, i'm a bit noob ^^"...

However I solved the problem by apt get -r upgrade.. ^^

Thank you for your help.

saud khan 2011-01-30 13:06
Re: [Council] Maemo 5 gets community OS updates
 
i still cant get this installed :( when i try to it says that i need to connect this to pc suite via pc and then run the application. plz help guyz :(

giorgosmit 2011-01-30 13:08
Re: [Council] Maemo 5 gets community OS updates
 
It's nice to see the community one-uping Nokia in support, thanks a lot guys. I wil be trying this in a couple of weeks, as I need a stable-as-can-be phone right now. I'm not a power, or even very experienced, user, but I'll try to test this. Also, I could take up tranlating whatever you need for a greek version of the update.

Alastor89 2011-01-30 13:12
Re: [Council] Maemo 5 gets community OS updates
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by saud khan (Post 931856)
i still cant get this installed :( when i try to it says that i need to connect this to pc suite via pc and then run the application. plz help guyz :(
First unistall all hildon patch... Then try to unpin package and upgrade by xterminal whit : apt-get -f upgrade.

If this doesn't works reinstall PR 1.3 firmware by ovi suite and then you will be able to do the community update.

saud khan 2011-01-30 13:17
Re: [Council] Maemo 5 gets community OS updates
 
how do i unpin packages? sorry im still learning linux and maemo.

thanks :)

Alastor89 2011-01-30 13:20
Re: [Council] Maemo 5 gets community OS updates
 
Refer to this post :

http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...3&postcount=33

and this : http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...2&postcount=35

plaban 2011-01-30 13:35
Re: [Council] Maemo 5 gets community OS updates
 
1 Attachment(s)
I like the new portrait status menu

Dark_Angel85 2011-01-30 13:48
Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
1 Attachment(s)
Attachment 17341

I realised after installing this update from the CSSU, and after fixing a few things i.e. FAM, uninstalling desaturize desktop (SOB SOB SOB), and having needed to reinstall certain things that were automatically removed by autoremover (glad that it could resolve), suddenly, I realised there were many apps that were 'kept back' and not upgraded...

how to work around this or is it not important?

droitwichgas 2011-01-30 15:22
Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
Given the issues listed on this thread what benefits, at the moment rather than in the future, does installing the CSSU bring, in terms of using the phone? As the wiki doesn't seem to list many worthwhile changes?

In other words it is worthwhile installing the CSSU at the moment?

michaaa62 2011-01-30 15:51
Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
Quote:
In other words it is worthwhile installing the CSSU at the moment?
Though it might be worthwhile for some, it is still a public testing phase. If you are not familiar with debugging apt-get related issues or even are unwilling to reflash the whole device, simply let others get their hands dirty! There will not always be a helping hand in here interested enough.

michaaa62 2011-01-30 15:52
Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark_Angel85 (Post 931873)
Attachment 17341

I realised after installing this update from the CSSU, and after fixing a few things i.e. FAM, uninstalling desaturize desktop (SOB SOB SOB), and having needed to reinstall certain things that were automatically removed by autoremover (glad that it could resolve), suddenly, I realised there were many apps that were 'kept back' and not upgraded...

how to work around this or is it not important?
DId you apt-get upgrade or apt-get dist-upgrade? Which repos do you have enabled?

Zekahz 2011-01-30 16:00
Re: [Council] Maemo 5 gets community OS updates
 
CTRL+ backspace doens't work anymore. I really need this feature when multitasking

michaaa62 2011-01-30 16:12
Re: [Council] Maemo 5 gets community OS updates
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zekahz (Post 931946)
CTRL+ backspace doens't work anymore. I really need this feature when multitasking
Sorry, but it works, at least on my device. Check the status of the configure process please.
There might also be necessary to reboot, but i am not a 100% sure about this.

Jaffa 2011-01-30 16:17
Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by hqh (Post 931782)
Setting qtm-maemo-metapackage to manually installed should fix the autoremover stuff. I also set dsme-thermalobject-surface and libqt4-translations as manually installed as the autoremover tried to remove them as well.
It seems Fapman is a bit overzealous in always running the autoremove step before installing anything. Thanks to whoeveryou for raising #11831 which deals with this issue.

Jaffa 2011-01-30 16:28
Re: [Council] Maemo 5 gets community OS updates
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by droll (Post 931568)
but will this be limited to only the portions that nokia has released as open source?
Probably. Although having something which binary patched existing applications (such as Ovi Maps) is feasible; but if it's a binary patch it doesn't require the level of "trust" Application Manager gives it and these could go through the normal Extras process.

plaban 2011-01-30 16:28
Re: [Council] Maemo 5 gets community OS updates
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zekahz (Post 931946)
CTRL+ backspace doens't work anymore. I really need this feature when multitasking
Works in my mobile also

Jaffa 2011-01-30 16:29
Re: [Council] Maemo 5 gets community OS updates
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by geneven (Post 931800)
It appears I have to remove modified hildon manager and the supercool nine screens and desktop+ and desktop-swithcher to use this.

I'm not willing to give up those benefits.
As noted in the announcement, the patches which deliver those can be integrated into the CSSU hildon-desktop the moment steps up to make the gconf-configurable.

Jaffa 2011-01-30 16:33
Re: [Council] Maemo 5 gets community OS updates
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zekahz (Post 931946)
CTRL+ backspace doens't work anymore. I really need this feature when multitasking
This is #11813. The workaround is:

1) Open X Terminal
2) Type:
Code:
sudo gainroot
gconf-schemas --register hildon-desktop-keys.schemas
The fix is in gitorious and just needs pushing. But obviously this proves that the CSSU testing repo is doing its job and finding bugs that prevent it immediately going to a "stable" repo and promoted/pushed as a path for all N900 users.

Zekahz 2011-01-30 16:55
Re: [Council] Maemo 5 gets community OS updates
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jaffa (Post 931961)
This is #11813. The workaround is:

1) Open X Terminal
2) Type:
Code:
sudo gainroot
gconf-schemas --register hildon-desktop-keys.schemas
The fix is in gitorious and just needs pushing. But obviously this proves that the CSSU testing repo is doing its job and finding bugs that prevent it immediately going to a "stable" repo and promoted/pushed as a path for all N900 users.
Thnxx everything works again:D

lsolano 2011-01-30 18:14
Re: [Council] Maemo 5 gets community OS updates
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jaffa (Post 931961)
This is #11813. The workaround is:

1) Open X Terminal
2) Type:
Code:
sudo gainroot
gconf-schemas --register hildon-desktop-keys.schemas
The fix is in gitorious and just needs pushing. But obviously this proves that the CSSU testing repo is doing its job and finding bugs that prevent it immediately going to a "stable" repo and promoted/pushed as a path for all N900 users.
Well I decided to try this Community OS update and everything went fine except for this "CTRL+ backspace" problem, and this workaround worked perfectly.

Instead of "CTRL+ backspace" I use most of the time the Camera focus short press to show Dashboard (thanks to Shortcutd) and after the workaround, it is working again.

I don't know if it is just my perception, but I find my transitions faster. I've been using Plastic Dark Black theme custom transitions for a while and they seem faster/smoother for me.

funkmunk 2011-01-30 18:51
Re: [Council] Maemo 5 gets community OS updates
 
@ MAG

Can you also add the Modest portrait patch & the settings menu portrait patch that you made some time ago to the Community SSU?

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=63291 (Modest Portrait)

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=63316 (Control Panel Portrait)

Also is it possible to make a patch to make the Conversation app to portrait??

geneven 2011-01-30 19:01
Re: [Council] Maemo 5 gets community OS updates
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jaffa (Post 931957)
As noted in the announcement, the patches which deliver those can be integrated into the CSSU hildon-desktop the moment steps up to make the gconf-configurable.
This sentence requires something to be comprehensible. Let me guess:

"...the moment [someone?] steps up to make the gconf-configurable."

Jaffa 2011-01-30 19:12
Re: [Council] Maemo 5 gets community OS updates
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by geneven (Post 932040)
This sentence requires something to be comprehensible. Let me guess:

"...the moment [someone?] steps up to make the gconf-configurable."
Correct; thank you!

droitwichgas 2011-01-30 19:32
Re: [Council] Maemo 5 gets community OS updates
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by lsolano (Post 932004)
Well I decided to try this Community OS update and everything went fine except for this "CTRL+ backspace" problem, and this workaround worked perfectly.

Instead of "CTRL+ backspace" I use most of the time the Camera focus short press to show Dashboard (thanks to Shortcutd) and after the workaround, it is working again.

I don't know if it is just my perception, but I find my transitions faster. I've been using Plastic Bark Black theme custom transitions for a while and they seem faster/smoother for me.
Likewise no issues and my phone also seems snappier but perhaps just it's had it's weekly reboot!

Mentalist Traceur 2011-01-30 21:14
Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jaffa (Post 931948)
It seems Fapman is a bit overzealous in always running the autoremove step before installing anything. Thanks to whoeveryou for raising #11831 which deals with this issue.
That's a settings option in FApMan. It autoremoves unused packages or something like that. It's on by default but can be disabled through the UI easily. I personally like it - people should really learn to look through the settings options of their software before indiscriminately running it.


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