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sevla 2011-02-11 13:40

Re: Goodbye Meego, goodbye Nokia
 
I haven't posted here in a long time, but i'll just say this.. It's up to me, you, US to make Meego great. We have the tools (QT) to make great apps and we have the knowledge to get it done. We don't need Nokia to do this for us. Just a few days ago we learned that there will be a way to use Android apps on Meego devices! That was done WITHOUT Nokia's help. We can show them that they did not make the right decision. Meego is and will always be the better OS for mobile devices.

It's up to us now. We just have to face the facts, move forward and hope that Nokia gives us good hardware to install Meego onto.

Clubberlang 2011-02-11 13:41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pasih (Post 942279)
I seriously doubt Nokia is going to bring out even one MeeGo-phone. Who in their right mind would want to buy it without any future for it. It was obvious from Ballmer's lapdog's words that Nokia doesn't care about MeeGo.

We all bought N900's under the impression that the device would have a future. It turned out to be a "bait and switch". As much as I am still interested in the Meego phone it's going to have to be hands off.

patlak 2011-02-11 13:41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by johnel (Post 942244)
I'm extremely happy with my n900 and plan to keep it a long time.

If Nokia release a meego device then I may consider buying it. We'll just have to wait and see what develops.

But the chances of Nokia actually releasing a meego are as small as an asteroid hitting the earth in the next 25 years or so ....

...oh crap what's this?

I am sure that's the day a MeeGo Nokia device will be in our hands. That asteriod has the fingerprints of Elop and MS. But anyhow, we have MeeGo to record the moment with :)

djs_tx 2011-02-11 13:46

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Not worth anger... Anger only hurts the vessel it is carried in. And as has been pointed out, it is just a phone.

That said, I'm deeply disappointed. I have owned every internet tablet device since the 770. I've been a member of this forum for a long time.

But this is the cost of being an enthusiast of cutting edge / niche platforms. Rarely do the things we want line up with the desires of companies that want to make a profit.

I was connecting to the internet with a handspring visor pro using an IRDA connection to my Nokia 3320 over a decade ago. And as cool as that was, Palm screwed up their market lead and nearly went out of business.

Nokia's pulled the development rug out from under me twice now, once with the native gtk stuff and now again with QT.

I don't like where the platform is going. It has a lot of potential but it won't make it to a polished user experience any time soon.

So now the question is Android or Palm OS, where to go next to try and find a home for my gadget tinkering needs. Looks like Android is more promising.
David

NvyUs 2011-02-11 13:47

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Harmattan UI and all Apps will be made open source so at least we can get MeeGo with Harmattan UI and apps on N900 if we wish

jotoco 2011-02-11 13:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by zdanee (Post 942227)
Good bye serious mobile operating systems!
Welcome closed, castrated, incompatible, unoptimized, half-baked mobilephone-application-launcher-thingies!

This is SO true

patlak 2011-02-11 13:50

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What I don't get, if Elop was really honest in his trial to recover Nokia and not sell it to MS, in order to compete with iOS and Android he could have just slapped Maemo 5 until MeeGo is 100% ready and awesome. They already have the code and Maemo 5's interface is much better than any of the competitors. Such a device would not take long to produce, N900 form factor with say a TI 3630. WP7 device will take longer to produce than either MeeGo, S^4 or Maemo 5. MS obviously planned this takeover long ago.

NvyUs 2011-02-11 13:52

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http://a.yfrog.com/img610/154/zduoe.jpg

this how Much MeeGo still as a Future at Nokia, they cant even be arsed to add it on future projected net sales

johnel 2011-02-11 13:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by NvyUs (Post 942307)
Harmattan UI and all Apps will be made open source so at least we can get MeeGo with Harmattan UI and apps on N900 if we wish

What naive optimism!

You never know.....

NvyUs 2011-02-11 13:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by johnel (Post 942325)
What naive optimism!

You never know.....

your right maybe i read quims post wrong just on twitter

3beers 2011-02-11 14:01

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They killed QT. I will not forget them about this. I hope they sell the Qt to google , since they have some problems with oracle, but I doubt microsoft wants that.
Anyway elop spoke today like he was working for microsoft and not for nokia.

patlak 2011-02-11 14:03

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Can we customers do something and get OPK back as CEO :) At least he would have never sold the company and would take his time to perfect future OS revisions. He learned his mistake :)

johnel 2011-02-11 14:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 3beers (Post 942339)
They killed QT. I will not forget them about this. I hope they sell the Qt to google , since they have some problems with oracle, but I doubt microsoft wants that.
Anyway elop spoke today like he was working for microsoft and not for nokia.

Believe me any ex-Microsoft director is really a trojan horse for Microsoft's influence

patlak 2011-02-11 14:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by NvyUs (Post 942322)
http://a.yfrog.com/img610/154/zduoe.jpg

this how Much MeeGo still as a Future at Nokia, they cant even be arsed to add it on future projected net sales

I hate the fact Symbian will be dropped. WP7 is a chinese live wallpaper of an OS compared to Symbian.

zdanee 2011-02-11 14:09

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Here, I fixed it:
http://zdanee.uw.hu/meego.jpg

patlak 2011-02-11 14:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by johnel (Post 942347)
Believe me any ex-Microsoft director is really a trojan horse for Microsoft's influence

I so believe you :) The irony with the WP7 announcement is that by the time a device ships, WP8 will be avaialable and Nokia will be behind yet again :(

patlak 2011-02-11 14:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by zdanee (Post 942354)

And the other one is thrown in hell to piss off those good, patient people in paradise hoping for a MeeGo device and the comeback of Nokia.

Finns, DO SOMETHING!!!

Ele-Mental 2011-02-11 14:25

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Its truly a sad day for all of us...:(

patlak 2011-02-11 14:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ele-Mental (Post 942397)
Its truly a sad day for all of us...:(

A sad day indeed :( Advice to you my friend, lower that CPU frequncy if you want the N900 to last as long as possible, you'll need it...TRUST ME :)

gunni 2011-02-11 14:34

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Damn. If i had thought about it yesterday, i could have been rich by today. Should have bought puts on Nokia stocks.

ammyt 2011-02-11 14:34

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Ohhhkaay, can somebody fill in the blanks because I got lost...(tip:the first has already been done to you)
1. Maemo is already dead
2. Symbian is ___________
3. Meego is ___________
4. WP is ___________

Frappacino 2011-02-11 14:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ammyt (Post 942420)
Ohhhkaay, can somebody fill in the blanks because I got lost...(tip:the first has already been done to you)
1. Maemo is already dead
2. Symbian is ___________
3. Meego is ___________
4. WP is ___________

2. soon dead
3. good as dead
4. the future

patlak 2011-02-11 14:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by johnel (Post 942252)
I never said WP7 was a smrtphone OS.

One of the highly subjective requirements of a smartphone OS is how it handles connectivity with the internet. Symbian fails at this.

But most people and members of my family see android as their next device. My daughter prefers Blackberry over Nokia devices and thats saying something.

Most of my girlfriends prefer a 5800, E72, N97 and N900 over an iphone or other devices and that's saying something.

johnel 2011-02-11 14:38

Re: Goodbye Meego, goodbye Nokia
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ammyt (Post 942420)
Ohhhkaay, can somebody fill in the blanks because I got lost...(tip:the first has already been done to you)
1. Maemo is already dead
2. Symbian is ___________
3. Meego is ___________
4. WP is ___________


2. Symbian is pining for the fields
3. Meego is not dead just resting
4. WP is weak phone

Duncan J Murray 2011-02-11 14:40

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A very sad day for all Nokia, Symbian, Meamo, QT and Meego-lovers.

This was a very bad move for Nokia - WP7 was in dire straits before this was announced, in a much worse position than symbian or meego. I don't think Nokia and WP7 will sell. The Nokia/Symbian crowd, which make up most of profit of Nokia, like and use symbian, and won't wish to downgrade. The American market will still see Nokia as a foreign and leftfield phone manufacturer, WP7 or not.

It looks like the N900 is the first and last truly open-source phone? Though, as others have said, I'll be looking to android and webos.

What makes me angry is that just one ex-microsoft employee can **** all over several great open-source projects and a great company in one fell sweep. It's like once a microsoft employee, always a microsoft employee.

patlak 2011-02-11 14:41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Turbanato|2 (Post 942262)
why are people so negative about this? This means nokia will pe putting out the same os's that it originally had + 1 more... it just means they can now target nokia fans who love symbian and maemo, they can target the programmers and android lovers with meego, and they can target window's users + business market with wm7.
i think this is an amazing move, especially since nokia now has access to ms's wallet. And so much money and support has gone into meego that meego will NOT be forgotten. They still need an answer to android, and meego is it.

Keep dreaming of Symbian's and MeeGo's future survival. only way for that would be if Elop suffered a terrible accident...oops,didn'say that outloud..

Duncan J Murray 2011-02-11 14:41

Re: Goodbye Meego, goodbye Nokia
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ammyt (Post 942420)
Ohhhkaay, can somebody fill in the blanks because I got lost...(tip:the first has already been done to you)
1. Maemo is already dead
2. Symbian is ___________
3. Meego is ___________
4. WP is ___________

2. dying
3. dead
4. a 'never-ran'

Ele-Mental 2011-02-11 14:41

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1. Maemo is already dead
2. Symbian is going to die in the next year
3. Meego is used to probe market response to a new OS.
4. WP is now Nokia's main OS

shallimus 2011-02-11 14:41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gunni (Post 942418)
Damn. If i had thought about it yesterday, i could have been rich by today. Should have bought puts on Nokia stocks.

This is what lots of people have done. Nokia stock has been shorted hard because it's the obvious thing to do from a pure markets perspective. Doesn't necessarily reflect anything long-term (I hope).

Frappacino 2011-02-11 14:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Duncan J Murray (Post 942435)
It looks like the N900 is the first and last truly open-source phone?

This statement is wrong.

1. N900 is not the first FOSS phone - freerunner is I believe but the phone just sux.

2. N900 is not a truly open source phone - from what I remember stskeeps was saying only 50% of the code has been open sourced. (or something like that)

3.N900 is not the last open source phone, I believe there is a successor to free runner annouced but thats a dev phone.

Duncan J Murray 2011-02-11 14:44

Re: Goodbye Meego, goodbye Nokia
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NvyUs (Post 942322)
http://a.yfrog.com/img610/154/zduoe.jpg

this how Much MeeGo still as a Future at Nokia, they cant even be arsed to add it on future projected net sales

This is properly Naive - do they really think the symbian users - people who have already chosen the fiddly and esoteric operating system over android - will want to move to WP7??? In the markets where Symbian is really popular - asia, india, I don't see it.

D

tiivonen 2011-02-11 14:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by patlak (Post 942362)
Finns, DO SOMETHING!!!

We are on it. My car has four of those and nokians keep my feet dry.

If you mean this mobile bollocks then there's no luck. It went down the pooper today. Nothing we can do. It's like the sick pet dog. There's going to be the day you have to let it go.

Ele-Mental 2011-02-11 14:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by patlak (Post 942405)
A sad day indeed :( Advice to you my friend, lower that CPU frequncy if you want the N900 to last as long as possible, you'll need it...TRUST ME :)

Im uninstalling easy debian and power kernel. im gonna run it stock speed from now on...

Rugoz 2011-02-11 14:47

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Quote:

Keep dreaming of Symbian's and MeeGo's future survival. only way for that would be if Elop suffered a terrible accident...oops,didn'say that outloud..
I had such thoughts too, nothing to be ashamed of.

Bratag 2011-02-11 14:47

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Sigh. Back to Android I guess. This really chaps my ***.

Nice job the the clown who decided this.

madmaze 2011-02-11 14:54

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This is a disgrace!

If meego/maemo drops I will drop Nokia for good.

Also thanks for shooting all the QT developers in the foot while executing all their work!.

patlak 2011-02-11 14:55

Re: Goodbye Meego, goodbye Nokia
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rugoz (Post 942454)
I had such thoughts too, nothing to be ashamed of.

Wanna be my partner in crime :) ?

Ele-Mental 2011-02-11 14:55

Re: Goodbye Meego, goodbye Nokia
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bratag (Post 942456)
Sigh. Back to Android I guess. This really chaps my ***.

Nice job the the clown who decided this.

Im just waiting on the SE Xperia Play, and im off.

anistein 2011-02-11 14:57

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It was fun while it lasted, but my N900 is my last Nokia device. They have finally proved to me that they are not willing to stay the course on any of their development/partnerships/business strategies.

joppu 2011-02-11 14:57

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Nice job shooting yourself in the foot, Nokia.


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