Re: The Tag Trolling issue
 

Above solution doesn't fix most problems, I'm afraid.

Well, while I clearly went overboard on the issue, which I should apologize for, I still don't few confortable knowing that tags might cause disconfort to others.

Put it this ways, it got a dev away from the community; we all lose from that. Sure, the guy might have been a little touchy, as many indirectly have pointed out, but last I checked people still have a right to do so.

Also, we're working with people, not with ideal, beyond-jaded internet veterans with a permanent cynical expression carved to their faces, who know better than to care about this sort of issue. If someone is offended by a tag, it's his right to do so; it's ok to point out that a bit of indifference towards the sarcasm of others is healthy, but I don't stand with the opinion that it's a member's problem if the trolling got to him.

To close my point, while I do understand that tags work as a letout for sarcasm, which would better be left at tags than at the thread itself, it surely gets to a point where looking at each and every topic tagged with "bada rox", "android blows", "your mum blows", and the abyss knows what else, does make me feel as though others are getting out of line.

Re: The Tag Trolling issue
 

Again: when they're outright inappropriate or offensive, and brought to our attention, they will be removed.

Simple.

Re: should d**kheads who anonymously troll via tags have their tagging privileges revoked?
 

How would I have visited Ancient Greece? Do travel agents now take bookings for time machines? How can I recall what happened two and a half millennia before I was born? What does what happened during a performance of 'The Clouds' have to do with this topic?

Re: The Tag Trolling issue
 

And me. Don't leave me out. I think you're as much of a numpty as the next man.

Re: should d**kheads who anonymously troll via tags have their tagging privileges revoked?
 

Ah - somebody beat me to it on this comment I see.

Re: should d**kheads who anonymously troll via tags have their tagging privileges revoked?
 

Aha - I see that while my suggestion may have fallen on deaf ears, it was adopted by somebody else anyway.

Re: should d**kheads who anonymously troll via tags have their tagging privileges revoked?
 

Slowly working my way towards 300 posts, just in case the facility is still available when I get there, so I can inflict my lack of humour on others too.

Re: The Tag Trolling issue
 

Sure you don't. Thats why you have been crying like a thin skinned girl for about the last 5 pages.

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That is an inaccurate and sexist comment, girls tend to be quite thick-skinned. Boys, however, tend to engage in contests to see who can pee up the wall the highest, and can be extremely thin-skinned when somebody pees higher than they do.

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But there are plenty of thin skinned girls out there too. Especially when you say they have a fat arse.

Coincidentally, I love my wife's fat arse lol.

Re: The Tag Trolling issue
 

Will do. Thanks for listening.

Re: should d**kheads who anonymously troll via tags have their tagging privileges revoked?
 

Isn't that so? The system seems to reward users beneath the 300-post threshold with nothing but being passively on the receiving-end of the tags... In a way, it encourages others to flood their way up to that threshold.

I'm afraid I'll work my way up, as well, after all, we all want a piece of that pie... Although, personally, I'd rather post a lot less and not participate in the ubiquitous popcorn threads, instead contributing with my silence to the community wellness... But, oh well, we can't lose all the time.

Re: should d**kheads who anonymously troll via tags have their tagging privileges revoked?
 

It seems to me that the tags when used as commentary have a chorus-like effect, which has some good points, as it did with The Clouds even though Aristophenes was known for slashing, unfair criticism of such as Socrates, the Abil_uk of his day.

You can come darned close to time travel by picking up the right books, if you are in the right mood.

Wouldn't it be nice if more of us used tags in a good way?

Here's an alternate solution to the problem: Start a group called the Tagging Team. Only they are allowed to tag, as a public service. No number of thanks gets you on the team automatically, just some sort of voting system like a majority vote of the team gets you on.

Edit: Oh, and the max number of Tagging Team Wrestlers is 25. This forces the team to be selective and not just appoint all their friends.

Re: should d**kheads who anonymously troll via tags have their tagging privileges revoked?
 

You're getting it wrong, I'm afraid, at least in the comparison department; while I'm not versed greek drama, the chorus represents, in yor example, an undissociatable mass of voices which tangle together to present the collective's opinion... Tags, while likely presenting a sarcastic or humourous view on the topic's subject, will pertain to an individual's point of view, and not that of the collective.

Sure, the chances are that a person would end representing the collective's views since an individual is immersed in the collective, as well, but likely he might end up simply representing himself and the desire to be funny, or, more often, his desire to do it for the lulz.

I think some are overdoing it.

Re: should d**kheads who anonymously troll via tags have their tagging privileges revoked?
 

Dude(tte) - the moderators can't police every single post which is why the software provides the "report post" link to bring things to their attention. I was basically giving you a warning that your post is against the rules, and rather than report it, I'd give you the chance to edit it. It seems like it may just be easier to click both "report user" and add you to my ignore list.

Re: should d**kheads who anonymously troll via tags have their tagging privileges revoked?
 

It's not limiting freedom of speech because you're not supposed to express yourself through the tags anyway, they're there to make searching easier.

Re: The Tag Trolling issue
 

This is classic so classic i am going to print it frame it and hang it on the wall right beside me and by god you better remember this comment Texrat !.

Re: should d**kheads who anonymously troll via tags have their tagging privileges revoked?
 

Funny i thought most educated people were bigger then this. So much hostility on this site these days. Its a shame that a few can make such a place as this counter productive.

They have obviosly been on the end of bullying so many times they feel they have to do it to others.

Re: The Tag Trolling issue
 

you know, since tags are used to describe a threads content in a few words, technically an indescriptive or out of context tag is bogging down the system and has no reason to remain there.

Re: The Tag Trolling issue
 

Simple, but not necessarily true. When I recently reported a post by Abil_uk that was clearly uncalled for (with zero provocation he referred to a user as a 'nobody') nothing was done. Of course, you weren't the moderator, but the wording of your post above omits 'if we happen to be in the mood' at the end.

Re: The Tag Trolling issue
 

Guys, play nicely. Last warning.

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They really don't bog down anything.

It may not have been mood. It may have been disagreement. Hard to say without seeing specifics. Also, I was talking about tags.

That a threat?

Anyway, for the record, outside of you helping people with the broken usb port issue, I disagree with almost everything you post. So don't expect me to automatically jump when you cry foul.

Re: should d**kheads who anonymously troll via tags have their tagging privileges revoked?
 

I see. Well, I'm aware that I went overboard and have said so; I apologize.

On that post, it is so far back now that it makes no sense whatsoever to revisit it, so I'll just leave it be; if you still want to report it, go ahead.

Also, while I strive not to become ignore material, I can't do a thing should you decide do to it.

Once again, I'm aware I went oveboard, but I so did in what I thought would be a way to contribute to the community.

Re: should d**kheads who anonymously troll via tags have their tagging privileges revoked?
 

Might as well face it the forum is FULL of weirdo's but that coincides with the world, what a boring place it would be if everyone was like nick.read lol.

Re: The Tag Trolling issue
 

I don't make threats Texrat but also i don't have to agree with everyone on this forum either!.

I found that "statement" you made funny and even though you dont like my comments i still consider you to be the most "human" moderator on this forum, even if we cannot see eye to eye, what is more important is that clear abuse be eradicated and that also includes people like ysss, geneven that creep from cambridge who just takes the biscuit and there followers out for brownie points.

Long standing members like ysss who frankly has never contributed anything whatsoever to this forum clearly get away with a lot of foul play and it makes me wonder why none of them even get a ticking off.

This is very much a help forum and does not need critisism but we get it and have to live with it.

Keep up the good work Texy i dont give a hoot you don't like my posts but sometimes you need a good mod on here and you get my vote anytime.

Re: The Tag Trolling issue
 

I think enough on this thread now, let us just leave it to the moderators to do there job, Texrat has made the point VERY clear and i have seen his work in action, he does his job well !!!.

Re: The Tag Trolling issue
 

Meanwhile, on the OTHER tags thread, the following post (not tag) appeared:

nuknuk

Today , 03:54 PM
Posts: 528 | Thanked: 112 times | Joined on Oct 2009 @ N900 LAND
Report This | #71

leetnoob is gay

It has not been removed, it is AT LEAST off topic, and no moderator appears to have intervened.

Moral: to an extent that tags are related to some form of problem, moderators are unlikely to solve it.

Re: should d**kheads who anonymously troll via tags have their tagging privileges revoked?
 

Oh, I'd not be insulted if they were removed. But as it stands, people are abusing them. And searching, I tend to use "keyword site:talk.maemo.org" via Google to find anything.

Re: The Tag Trolling issue
 

I don't see a thread tagged with that. Report it or link it. I'll remove it.

Simple.

EDIT: sorry, misread. I'll deal with it.

EDIT 2: I have no mod powers in that section. But, like anyone else, I can report an offensive post.

Re: should d**kheads who anonymously troll via tags have their tagging privileges revoked?
 

Incorrect. Spam tags do not affect serious searches one way or the other.

And we've been over and over this. We're going to address offensive tags on a case by case basis, responding to Report This requests. That's the most effective way of getting action.

Re: The Tag Trolling issue
 

I have reported that one, a few hours ago.

Re: The Tag Trolling issue
 

There are different moderators for different sections in different timezones. Just gotta be patient. ;)

Re: The Tag Trolling issue
 

Yes, there are, but it would be an error to extrapolate your wife's feelings about her behind to the behaviour of members of this community.

Re: The Tag Trolling issue
 

I suggest taking this nonsense OUTSIDE.

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LOL. (including JB's wife's backside?)

Re: The Tag Trolling issue
 

lol definitely.
that seems to be the only good thing that came out of this thread.

Re: The Tag Trolling issue
 

No, the good that comes out of these threads is that I can legitimately creep my way towards the magic 300 post number by posting like this, and now I have only 108 more posts to go...

Re: should d**kheads who anonymously troll via tags have their tagging privileges revoked?
 

Nothing worthwile has ever come easy, and beautiful things demand sacrifices. History is littered with the bones of people who died for a flower to grow in a park a thousands years later. For some of us, died defending. For others, died conquering. To each his own.

Nice, warm, fuzzy and cuddly communities are guarded by bloody moderators. Lacking that, we have to pick up arms. Laid back attitudes never cleaned up anything.

Billie isn't going away on his own. Degrading quality of a thread feeds some people and, frankly, I would let them be if they weren't killing some pretty nice threads. Freedom of speech is a b*tch, isn't it. Cut from trolls and we get uproar, but impede a whole community with mindless blabber and empty posts and attacks, imagined or not, and it's freedom. And my favourite I-hope-you-choke-on-a-pretzel quote-page-long-posts-or-a-one-liner.

I said it before, I'm a fan of heavyer handed moderation, mainly because all nice, clean communities I saw were heavily moderated. All clean countries have heavy handed dumping laws. All quiet neighbourhoods have strict noise regulation. Clean cities have strict emission laws.

You say educated people are above this. Need I remind you that education, in the sense used here is mainly gained via heavy handed schedule enforcement, heavy handed requirements and generally living for a couple of decades following strict rules. One does not get "educated" in any sense by "chillax, bro, go when you feel like it, school is optional, homework is optional, forget the books, just take it easy". It takes sweat, focus, effort and sacrifice. Where in this world is there a nice community with no laws that allow insta-booting?

And don't give me that love is free bull. Love is expensive as hell. So is freedom, silence, quality. If it's worth anything to anyone, you'll have to defend it. Don't hold you breath tho, TMO is one of the most chillaxed moderations out there. Wether it's good or bad, I can't tell, I don't get to see what has been moderated.


I think I may have taken a wrong turn at E55, so I'm pretty much freely floating here. So, you know, less tags.

Also, we've been through this is several we-are-sick-of-it threads all over Community. We argue, we propose, it doesn't get implemented, we all shut up for a few weeks then someone explodes again in frustration. No negative votes, no inverse thanking, no me toos, no tag moderation. Heaven for a troll. No wonder they never go away.

Man that felt good.

Re: The Tag Trolling issue
 

Post post: Posting a post in order to post.

PS: premtively posting to post that posts posted to post posterior will not receive reply posts.)

Re: The Tag Trolling issue
 

Step 4 of 5:p
And those(the offenders) should rise up their egos to it.

Ogres smash.
Vermin corrupt.