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ziller

2011-11-18 07:11

Re: N9/N950 Contacts/IM - Get help & give feedback here

Quote:

Originally Posted by abustany (Post 1112825)

So, I checked what the status for the bug you mentioned, it seems to be because some services like MFE or Facebook don't allow sharing the contacts to third parties (yes, you don't have the right to share *your* contacts with yourself, that's smart). So I guess that for this reason the bluetooth daemon filters on "local" contacts only, I still don't understand why that would exclude contacts synced from bluetooth (which as far as I know are seen as local contacts)...
Anyway, it seems that the issue is being worked on, I can't promise anything regarding a fix since there is no solution yet, and it's not my team. Furthermore, I'm not totally sure what my NDA allows me to tell :)

Well, no solution with PR1.1 yet :( Carkit still only shows manually added contacts and leaves MfE and Facebook (and even Skype and Gtalk) out.

mike_shenoda

2011-11-19 21:58

Re: N9/N950 Contacts/IM - Get help & give feedback here

help needed lately i found that when i am sending or receiving either im or sms it is not the right contact to show so sms show for different sender ,i did a soft reset(restore setting )but the issue remains ,,any suggestion still the same old 1,0 no 1.1 for me yet ,thanx

abustany

2011-11-21 08:16

Re: N9/N950 Contacts/IM - Get help & give feedback here

Quote:

Originally Posted by babraq (Post 1120223)

After upgrading to PR1.1, all my contacts disappeared except those from GTalk (I don't have Twitter or Facebook). So I used backup which I made before updating. Contacts are back, but I missed some texts which I received after backup. Another thing (very important) is that when I open some contact which have address or birthday associated with it, the information is not displayed. When I try to edit them, the informations are there. It's very annoying because I cannot cannot lauch Drive application to navigate me to a home address of someone.

So I tried to edit some contacts and after saving, it works as expected, but it's very dumb to edit every contact separately. Is there way to update them at once? Some command related to tracker or something similar?

Another thing is that additional info is missing too, concretely gender. It isn't anywhere.

Again, contacts are gone. :(

I used backup again and tracker-store process is taking more than 50% of CPU.

Well I guess your gtalk contacts were gone too, they probably just got imported from gtalk again. I don't see any reason why contacts would disappear though, I have been upgrading my device from 1.0 to 1.1 without any issue :-/
About the missing details, I have a colleague that has been experiencing that on random contacts, investigation of the issue is ongoing.
The gender field is not shown in the contact card, only in the editor. That's a UI design decision, which is maybe not completely smart.

abustany

2011-11-21 08:18

Re: N9/N950 Contacts/IM - Get help & give feedback here

Quote:

Originally Posted by ammar.m (Post 1124628)

guys i need help. i synced all my FB contacts and many of them have contacts missing. only a few synced the picture. i deleted the account and redid it but still the same issue.

The behaviour of Facebook with avatars is pretty random (their servers send them sometimes, sometimes not). In the upcoming 1.2, we will fetch avatars from the graph API (not xmpp) instead, to get avatars more reliably.

abustany

2011-11-21 08:18

Re: N9/N950 Contacts/IM - Get help & give feedback here

Quote:

Originally Posted by ziller (Post 1125354)

Well, no solution with PR1.1 yet :( Carkit still only shows manually added contacts and leaves MfE and Facebook (and even Skype and Gtalk) out.

Yep, that is being worked on. Unfortunately some heavy pushing was needed to get things moving :-/

shmerl

2011-11-22 18:49

Re: N9/N950 Contacts/IM - Get help & give feedback here

I'm not sure if that was asked. Does Nokia plan to update UI to enable access to any XMPP server besides Google Talk, and to enable support for video calls through XMPP/Jingle? So far only audio calls work, and front camera is basically useless.

You can add other servers manually so far using telepathy gabble, but it's not very comfortable:
http://wiki.meego.com/Migrating_from..._account_setup

abustany

2011-11-22 19:05

Re: N9/N950 Contacts/IM - Get help & give feedback here

Quote:

Originally Posted by shmerl (Post 1127496)

We have a bug to add generic jabber support, but as long as no program manager allows that feature, teams can't work on it (yeah, that sucks).
About video call over xmpp, the feature is being worked on but I can't promise it'll be released in next update. Maybe 3rd party apps like peregrine allow that?

shmerl

2011-11-22 19:56

Re: N9/N950 Contacts/IM - Get help & give feedback here

Quote:

Originally Posted by abustany (Post 1127504)

No, last time I checked Peregrine didn't enable video calling.

What do you mean by program manager? Doesn't telepathy-gabble support any XMPP server account already? For example if you have jabber.org account, you can do something like this in the terminal on N9 (under root):

Code:

mc-tool add gabble/jabber jabberorg string:account=myuser@jabber.org string:password=mypassword

mc-tool list

mc-tool enable gabble/jabber/myuser_40jabber_2eorg0

It will work, to see your contacts, but you can't send messages / initiate voice calls in the current default client (there is no UI for it simply, and UI is visible only if Google Talk server is used). I think all you need to do is to enable that already existing UI for any XMPP server instead. So there won't be a need to add new type of account UI even (XMPP), but there still be a way to use it with manual setup.

shmerl

2011-11-22 21:32

Re: N9/N950 Contacts/IM - Get help & give feedback here

There was some mention, that Google supports power saving mode, using not standardized XEP (which isn't even official yet):
http://dave.cridland.net/xeps/google-queue.html
While Facebook supports something else with similar intentions:
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38943

So I wonder what other XMPP servers (ejabberd, openfire etc.) do for this matter and how it affects battery life.

akosihub

2011-11-23 12:22

Re: N9/N950 Contacts/IM - Get help & give feedback here

I dont know if this has been mentioned before, but you can have yahoo messenger work with the stock messenger app and have yahoo messenger contacts on the stock contacts app by using a jabber server that supports yahoo messenger transport. Been using it for a few days now and it works quite good and integration with the stock apps are quite good also, albiet a few issues but very usable.

thedead1440

2011-11-23 16:16

Re: N9/N950 Contacts/IM - Get help & give feedback here

Hi,
Can anyone help in finding a contact's history. For example i want to find the number of times i've contacted a person. Similar to log in older phones and call history on blackberries.

I've just moved from my bb to n9 so this function is quite needed.

Thanks in advance.

mvladivostok

2011-11-23 18:32

Re: N9/N950 Contacts/IM - Get help & give feedback here

Hi abustany,

many thanks for the support you give here in the forums. It makes us (owners of N9) feel that the platform isn't just dead yet, and that we'll have some support for the lifetime of the device.

I have a question/request. One of the few things that I really miss is the ability of synchronizing my contacts and calendars directly with a desktop (I have a Mac, and used to do this with iSync via bluetooth). I know this can be achieved by synchronizing both the Mac and the N9 with Google, but it sort of defeats the purpose of having a non-Android device.

So I'm wondering:

1) Is this going to be supported in the near future?

2) If not, I'm thinking of trying to hack a quick solution for it. Probably a "sync on demand" app running both on the Mac and the N9, via wifi, to begin with.
Now, the trouble is, I found the calendars in a sqlite3 file ".calendar/db", but there's no such equivalent for the contacts. My only hint are the "contactsd" and "contacts" processes running. I saw your earlier post hinting at querying QContactFetchRequest (never programmed with QT before, so I'll have to dig that up), is that the only way to interact with contacts?

Thanks in advance!

thedead1440

2011-11-24 18:45

Re: N9/N950 Contacts/IM - Get help & give feedback here

anybody???

Quote:

Originally Posted by thedead1440 (Post 1127921)

qwazix

2011-11-26 19:57

Re: N9/N950 Contacts/IM - Get help & give feedback here

I asked this in a seperate thread and was referred to here, so I will post it again in case Abustany can explain to me how the fb contacts/local contacts relationship is handled.

In settings there is a very handy option to show facebook availability only to those contacts I have locally. Now I have a contact in facebook, and I want to be able to chat with him. It happens that I also have the same contact locally, but with a different email address so I wouldn't expect the system to know the relationship. I opened the facebook app, found the contact, but the only thing I can do is send him an email. I tried to edit the local contact and add the email address he uses on facebook, but still there is no relationship. Other people suggested switching to full facebook availability, merging the contacts and then deleting the other contacts, but this is too hard work for just one contact.

Thanks for reading. It became too long eventually

coomac

2011-11-27 01:21

Re: N9/N950 Contacts/IM - Get help & give feedback here

Quote:

Originally Posted by thedead1440 (Post 1127921)

You can kinda sorta view this info from the phone app. On the first tab that shows Recent calls, tap where it says Recent calls and select Dialed calls from the list. It shows every single call you've made in one view.

There's unfortunately no way to group by contact, but you can get a decent idea of when you called someone. You can tap and hold the call entry to see the duration.

EspeonEefi

2011-11-27 08:42

Re: N9/N950 Contacts/IM - Get help & give feedback here

Quote:

Originally Posted by unrealdtc (Post 1121973)

I'm having an 'interesting' problem since I updated to PR1.1 on the n9. I noticed my contacts were lacking Twitter information, so I deleted my twitter account, in order to recreate it. After that, I had to use the trick described on this page to be able to connect to twitter again, and then magic, my contacts had their twitter information back... until I rebooted the telephone... :(

Anyone experiencing this problem with Twitter contacts disappearing from Contacts?

I can confirm that I'm having this same problem on PR1.1 -- Twitter connections are disappearing on reboot. Interestingly enough, it seems that the connections are actually there; the Twitter integration just fails to get activated.

If I go into the Accounts app and disable the Twitter account (toggle the switch in the top right of the Twitter account settings and then hit save) and then re-enable the Twitter account, the connections come back. Furthermore, contact associations that I previously made manually come back, even though they could not possibly have been picked up automatically. (I previously made contact associations "manually" by renaming contacts to match their Twitter handle before adding my Twitter account, and then renaming the contacts back.)

abustany

2011-12-01 19:54

Re: N9/N950 Contacts/IM - Get help & give feedback here

Quote:

Originally Posted by shmerl (Post 1127559)

As far as I know, gabble supports this XEP and it works with Gtalk. I don't know about Facebook support, basically if gabble supports it then the N9 does...

abustany

2011-12-01 19:55

Re: N9/N950 Contacts/IM - Get help & give feedback here

Quote:

Originally Posted by thedead1440 (Post 1127921)

Hi,

as far as I know this feature is not built in, however since all the data is available in the central database (Tracker), doing a 3rd party app that shows the logs for each contact would be really easy... Now you just need to find someone to make it, or make it yourself :)

abustany

2011-12-01 19:59

Re: N9/N950 Contacts/IM - Get help & give feedback here

Quote:

Originally Posted by mvladivostok (Post 1127996)

I think syncml synchronization is supported, did you try to go to settings -> backup/sync -> sync? I never used that feature myself though.

If you want to interact with any PIM data on N9, the recommended way is to use the qt mobility apis. For calendar, you can also use libmkcal. Using Tracker directly to modify contacts etc. is discouraged, it's quite complex and you can hose your DB :)

abustany

2011-12-01 20:06

Re: N9/N950 Contacts/IM - Get help & give feedback here

Quote:

Originally Posted by qwazix (Post 1129338)

No worry, that was not too long :) If you have a local contact with the same name as your Facebook contact, then they should get merged... Else, you can open the "merge" panel in contacts app from the menu, and click the "Refresh" button in the toolbar on the bottom. As far as I know, you cannot chat with contacts that are not in your contact list (but then I'm not a Facebook user :) ).

The way facebook contacts are handled on N9 is a bit complex... Because Facebook data can't be in the shared DB for license reasons, they are in a separate, protected DB. However, the "chat" part of the facebook contacts comes through XMPP, and therefore is public. The contacts application does the matching in memory.

jalyst

2011-12-02 16:28

Re: N9/N950 Contacts/IM - Get help & give feedback here

Quote:

Originally Posted by abustany (Post 1131753)

Now you just need to find someone to make it, or make it yourself :)

That would be ideal first...
Else as a final resort, submit feature-request to the bug-tracker.

If you get enough people subscribed to the request & voting on it.
And if you structure your request in a clear & persuasive manner.
Then it may be prioritized by Nokia for one of the future releases.

legoman666

2011-12-03 02:16

Re: N9/N950 Contacts/IM - Get help & give feedback here

Gtalk still says "incorrect password" 2 out of every 3 connection attempts. It seemed better fora while after I had upgraded to pr1.1, but it's back to being dumb again.

qwazix

2011-12-05 08:04

Re: N9/N950 Contacts/IM - Get help & give feedback here

Quote:

Originally Posted by abustany (Post 1131759)

Hm, so it merges by name. But not everyone has the exact same name in facebook and in real life, especially non-latin people who use inexact transliterations for their names on facebook. It would be very nice if it could merge the contacts by e-mail address too. As a workaround, I can create a seperate contact with the name of the person I want to chat with, the way he has it on fb.
Thank you very much for the clarification

abustany

2011-12-05 08:10

Re: N9/N950 Contacts/IM - Get help & give feedback here

Hmmm actually I might have been confused, so here is the automerging bible, which should be roughly up to date:

1. In general auto merging is triggered when users created a new account or re-enabled an existing account
(e.g. Gtalk, Skype, Facebook, Twitter, MfE). The only exception is when syncing contacts from a another
device via bluetooth. This does not involve with any account, but it will trigger auto merging too. Auto merging
is generally a one time operation for any account (one reason we can't periodically run auto merging is that it
may re-merge contacts that we have manually unmerged). One exception is accounts with matching-only
option, which will be explained in section 5.
2. Auto merging will try to match any newly imported contacts with *existing* contacts in the phonebook. The
matching is preferably based on email and IM address (e.g. contact A's email or IM address fully matches
contact B's email or IM address). If none of these fields get matched, then we try to match contacts by name
(case insensitive exact match, and also supporting "X Y" and "Y X"). Please notice that we are NOT matching
contacts by phone number.
3. We are not auto merging service contacts from the same service (e.g. two Facebook contacts share the
same name), as they are more likely representing different people rather than different accounts of the same
person.
4. When importing contacts from MfE or another device, we only merge them with existing service contacts
(meaning contacts with an online account, including all IM and social accounts - Gtalk, Skype, Facebook,
Twitter, and in future MSN, Yahoo, etc), but we NEVER merge them with existing local contacts (contacts
without an online account, so MfE and Ovi sync contacts are also regarded as local). The reason is that if auto
merging was incorrect (e.g. two people happened to have the same name), it is really easy to just split the
service account from the merged contact (contact card -> action menu -> unmerge). However, on the other
hand, two local contacts are generally meshed to one single contact, so there is no easy way to split the
incorrect part of local contact.
5. Facebook and Twitter have a special feature: importing only contacts that match the existing contacts in the
phonebook. That means if a Facebook or Twitter contact can't match any existing contact, they are dropped
from the phonebook. However, users may configure Facebook, Twitter, MfE, other service accounts in any
order. Even though a Facebook/Twitter contact does not match any existing contact, it may match an
incoming Gtalk or MfE contact in future. Therefore, instead of dropping these unmatched Facebook/Twitter
contacts immediately, we cache them and see if they can get merged with incoming contacts within a short
period of time. We will eventually clean up the cache (so eventually drop them from the phonebook). In
addition, when new contacts are imported to the phonebook, we refetch contacts from matching only account if
they are absent from the temporary cache. This will ensure if users first configure Facebook/Twitter account
then configure a new Gtalk/SKype/etc account later (e.g. after several hours or even days), all their matched
Facebook and Twitter contacts will get eventually merged and imported.
When auto merging WON'T happen:
6. You have already imported your service contacts (e.g. Gtalk, Facebook, Twitter), and you manually create
some new contacts. Even if these new contacts match existing service contacts, auto merging won't happen.

I'm not sure if the "refresh" button in the merge panel addresses case 6... All the automerging stuff is done in UI and I'm a backend guy :)

ammar.m

2011-12-05 13:54

Re: N9/N950 Contacts/IM - Get help & give feedback here

i have an issue where in my messaging folder no contact has his/her Facebook display picture showing. Only those with twitter pics are showing. The facebook pics are showing in the contacts app but not in messaging?

Reggie

2011-12-05 14:22

Re: N9/N950 Contacts/IM - Get help & give feedback here

Quote:

Originally Posted by legoman666 (Post 1132437)

Gtalk still says "incorrect password" 2 out of every 3 connection attempts. It seemed better fora while after I had upgraded to pr1.1, but it's back to being dumb again.

From my experience, it looks like Google has this weird way of avoiding several devices connecting to the same account at the same time, I guess for security purposes (I have around 6 mobile devices, 2 notebooks and 2 desktops connecting to the same account). What I did was to turn-on 2-step verification and the problem went away -- http://www.google.com/support/accoun...&topic=1056284

Once you do this, you need to generate a unique password for each of your mobile device that connects to your account. Since the accounts have unique passwords, it looks like Google disregard the security check and allows multiple devices connect at the same time.

jalyst

2011-12-06 00:48

Re: N9/N950 Contacts/IM - Get help & give feedback here

Quote:

Originally Posted by legoman666 (Post 1132437)

Gtalk still says "incorrect password" 2 out of every 3 connection attempts. It seemed better fora while after I had upgraded to pr1.1, but it's back to being dumb again.

There is a fix coming in 1.2, read the thread in this bug
http://harmattan-bugs.nokia.com/show_bug.cgi?id=109
There are several other reported bugs that sound similar.
So I hope the devs will consolidate them all soon, before it gets out of hand!
Not easy work, as sometimes it's tricky to tell whether it really is/isn't a separate issue.

jalyst

2011-12-06 00:51

Re: N9/N950 Contacts/IM - Get help & give feedback here

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reggie (Post 1133506)

Interesting....
Or legoman666's problem could just be this!?

legoman666

2011-12-06 17:27

Re: N9/N950 Contacts/IM - Get help & give feedback here

Quote:

Originally Posted by jalyst (Post 1133773)

Excellent. I hope it gets released soon, as I am more or less unreachable by gchat until this is fixed.

jalyst

2011-12-06 18:20

Re: N9/N950 Contacts/IM - Get help & give feedback here

^read/subscribe to the bug for details of availability.

felipec

2011-12-12 16:50

Re: N9/N950 Contacts/IM - Get help & give feedback here

For generic XMPP support, please follow:
http://harmattan-bugs.nokia.com/show_bug.cgi?id=121

It doesn't look like this will get implemented, so we might have to do it ourselves =/

billranton

2011-12-12 17:00

Re: N9/N950 Contacts/IM - Get help & give feedback here

Quote:

Originally Posted by felipec (Post 1136636)

For generic XMPP support, please follow:
http://harmattan-bugs.nokia.com/show_bug.cgi?id=121

It doesn't look like this will get implemented, so we might have to do it ourselves =/

We've made some progress here. Needs a proper accounts plugin though. Oh and I'm very eager to know if msn-pecan is planned to be ported soon :D

engige

2011-12-14 08:37

Re: N9/N950 Contacts/IM - Get help & give feedback here

I just noted an interesting 'problem'. My contacts with first name starting with 'Ch' appear under 'B' instead of 'C' in the N9 address book!!

What could be the issue?

jalyst

2011-12-20 13:12

Re: N9/N950 Contacts/IM - Get help & give feedback here

Quote:

Originally Posted by ammar.m (Post 1133492)

*bump*...
@abustany any ideas, known/listed bug?

And this.....

Quote:

Originally Posted by felipec (Post 1136636)

For generic XMPP support, please follow:
http://harmattan-bugs.nokia.com/show_bug.cgi?id=121
It doesn't look like this will get implemented, so we might have to do it ourselves =/

Quote:

Originally Posted by billranton (Post 1136641)

We've made some progress here. Needs a proper accounts plugin though.

And this (assuming usr has bothered to search this thread & elsewhere 1st)...

Quote:

Originally Posted by engige (Post 1137351)

I just noted an interesting 'problem'. My contacts with first name starting with 'Ch' appear under 'B' instead of 'C' in the N9 address book!!
What could be the issue?

Thank-you.

abustany

2011-12-20 13:22

Re: N9/N950 Contacts/IM - Get help & give feedback here

No special ideas no, as I said it might just be that facebook never sent them... This should be more robust in the next release (1.2) where we fetch avatars from the facebook graph API.

jalyst

2011-12-20 13:33

Re: N9/N950 Contacts/IM - Get help & give feedback here

Ah yes, now that you mention it, IIRC this is one you've answered earlier in the thread.
ammar.m must have forgot to search first, thank-you! See my edited post above...

nokiac

2011-12-23 18:32

Re: N9/N950 Contacts/IM - Get help & give feedback here

Hi All,

I have discovered a weird issue with my N9 today.

I have in phonebook two different entries as follows:

1] Name : Tom Klaus
CellNo: +811234 333333

2] Name : Rita Klaus
CellNo: +818772 333333

So, if you notice, the last 6 digits are same for both their phone numbers.

Now, when I got an incoming call from "Tom Klaus" above, it only showed me the phone number on the call screen. Same when I got an SMS from him.

When I go to the messages thread , it shows up there that there are 2 contacts matching with this number!!!!!!!!

So it looks to me that N9 is matching only the last 5-6 digits of the incoming call/sms !! This is really weird!!

I was wondering if anyone here knows about this issue.

PS: Ofcourse the names and phone numers above are made up!! But they reflect how they really are!

PPS: I have also created a separate thread for this at

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1141073

somedude

2011-12-24 21:56

Re: N9/N950 Contacts/IM - Get help & give feedback here

I don't know if I am not looking it right but I exported my contacts to a file, but am not able to see that file anywhere in the phone. where is that file saved at?
All I was trying to do was export it to the file so I could email all my contacts, I needed to manipulate some of the contacts.
If we need to plug it in the computer and then transfer it from the computer then this is very in-convinient, if this is the case I would like to suggest that these file show up under a document.

gbence

2011-12-26 17:27

Re: N9/N950 Contacts/IM - Get help & give feedback here

Hi,

After some days of active usage I found some incoming and outgoing calls (on recent calls list) in their pure numeric form so they were not matched against the phonebook's database although there were such entries.

In another thread (that was opened by me, and so a thanks go to Jalyst who pointed me to this one) Soppa noted that generated / fetched / synchronized data are involved in this special case.

Why doesn't the phone match synchronized data against call lists?

abustany

2011-12-30 08:06

Re: N9/N950 Contacts/IM - Get help & give feedback here

Quote:

Originally Posted by somedude (Post 1141536)

I think export to file saves the file(s?) in some folder accessible when you access the device in mass storage. Why would you want to manipulate the file in your phone?
If you want to mail all your contacts, just pick all of them when choosing the mail recipients :) Unless there's a limit there?

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