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malkavian

2012-03-01 20:22

Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)

Quote:

Originally Posted by tgalal (Post 1172370)

So you trust whatsapp with your private conversations and your whole address book, but not with your mobile number?

Ops, you are right. Conversations are not a huge problem for me, but sharing my address book is another big reason for not using whatsapp. I would need to have a separate address book for it, wich is more difficult to happen. Long live to gtalk!!! XD

RobertHall

2012-03-01 20:41

Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)

hey dcastro sent you a PM

Dontales

2012-03-01 22:16

Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)

Soon Whatsapp on the N9! Great!

malkavian

2012-03-01 22:19

Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)

Soon, more data for Whatsapp inc for selling to spammers! Great (for them)! ¬¬

Hariainm

2012-03-01 23:16

Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)

Quote:

Originally Posted by malkavian (Post 1172760)

Blahblahblah

Dude, just... c'mon ;)

tgalal

2012-03-02 03:00

Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)

Quote:

Originally Posted by dcastrog (Post 1172386)

nice! is there any challenge at the login (how are we going to login, with what password)??

Although it would be nice addition for many users, but I find no advantage for having the password chosen/entered manually (yet).

Quote:

Originally Posted by rash.m2k (Post 1172499)

Whats the point of binary coding (I'm assuming this is base64) the stanzas first?

Are you sure it's not just GZIP compression?

BTW - impressed with the client, it looks basic, but impressive non-the-less.

EDIT:: Google talk video calling is also available on the ovi store.

Well one advantage is that tags and attributes are maintained mainly on server and client side. And so you'd only send and receive references to these data to use to reconstruct a stanza. This means less data transfer over the network..

Quote:

Originally Posted by don_falcone (Post 1172538)

Will this end as a proper Pidgin or IM plugin, or do we go the Android/iOS route with individual "apps" for every function/service? (not that i will use it, just curious if there's a change in approach for Maemo)

Whatsapp has some features which aren't going to be available or utilized if implemented as a plugin. For example; message delivery to server and delivery to friend indicators. It might eventually end up as both (a standalone app and a plugin), however, my priority now is a standalone app.

baem90

2012-03-02 03:51

Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)

just a quick question, does it support push notification?

dcastrog

2012-03-02 03:57

Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)

well, in my opinion a plugin looks like a cleaner option for MeeGo/Harmattan, but the "received message" confirmation is a core feature of whatsapp, something that might only be achieved with the stand alone app. I will use either app :)

Arie	2012-03-02 04:43

Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)

Quote:

Originally Posted by tgalal (Post 1172892)

Although it would be nice addition for many users, but I find no advantage for having the password chosen/entered manually (yet).

Well one advantage is that tags and attributes are maintained mainly on server and client side. And so you'd only send and receive references to these data to use to reconstruct a stanza. This means less data transfer over the network..

Whatsapp has some features which aren't going to be available or utilized if implemented as a plugin. For example; message delivery to server and delivery to friend indicators. It might eventually end up as both (a standalone app and a plugin), however, my priority now is a standalone app.

Can we also get the whatsapp info integrated into the system? That would be amazing, like a vibrate function for messages and a message on the lockscreen? For the N9 of course. OMG.... YES!

tcbl50

2012-03-02 05:51

Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)

i thought this was a developer thread?? theres another thread in the forum if some guys want to rant and rave...

I'm not a developer but just watching this thread with interest. Lets not spam this thread and let the developers get on with it :)

SamGan

2012-03-02 06:27

Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)

Quote:

Originally Posted by tcbl50 (Post 1172932)

Even developers need some encouragement too.

phpXpert

2012-03-02 12:49

Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)

WhatsApp will have a new mechanism (DIGEST-MD5-2) to be used in the login process.
The new mechanism will depend on a challenge string to generate a response and send it to the server for authorization.
I think the current procedure which was mentioned earlier will be deprecated soon.
I tried to decompile the latest copy of android's version to identify the challenge string but it's obfuscated.

TMavica

2012-03-02 17:48

Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)

Just for you all information, he mays can help you

http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...1&postcount=30

select

2012-03-03 14:28

Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)

hi guys,
i'm following this topic because i'm really interested to whatsapp on Maemo/meego, but i'm not able to help you with this stuff...

i just hope you can make it soon! :D

thank you for your hard work!

bnwg	2012-03-04 08:28

Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)

LINE (http://line.naver.jp/en/) is another cross platform messenger just like Whatsapp. It also have voice call over data network like Viber. And it's free (not like Whatsapp, it's free for first year and then charges US$0.99/year). So in my area my friends usually have both Whatsapp and LINE and that make the switch between them very easily (not like ebuddy XMS that almost none of my friends are in).

Lately LINE claim that they will provide PC/browser version really soon. I think this is good as it can be accessed at least from browser for the devices (e.g. N9) that are not supported by the nice company (e.g. Whatsapp company) (and maybe it can be integrated into extraplugsin from PC version just same as MSN and ICQ?? my greedy hope :p)

In my area LINE is quite a strong competitor to Whatsapp and I hope this move from LINE could help "pushing" Whatsapp to do the same thing. Or the PC/browser version of LINE could help providing more ideas of how to port Whatsapp to non-support device (again N9 for example).

baem90

2012-03-05 11:37

Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)

any new update from any developers?

Mada22009

2012-03-06 20:41

Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)

Quote:

Originally Posted by tgalal (Post 1172362)

The login code is almost an exact copy of the java code, translated into python. I'm going to share the code eventually, but not yet.
As for communication with the server, XML stanzas are binary encoded before being sent, and received data are decoded into XML stanzas.

Right now it's only a matter of completing the UI. And I think this will be real soon ;)

last i heard it was only the matter of compiling been checking this thread every day i really hope to see the result of the progress :)

malkavian

2012-03-06 22:33

Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)

Another security problem of Whatsapp (in spanish): http://www.securitybydefault.com/201...espanoles.html

strange1712

2012-03-07 00:24

Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)

Quote:

Originally Posted by malkavian (Post 1175527)

Another security problem of Whatsapp (in spanish): http://www.securitybydefault.com/201...espanoles.html

LOL! JAJAJA

But that's what is used now by most people, "ni modo"... Ja

whatsappneeder

2012-03-07 13:49

Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)

any update?????

SamGan

2012-03-07 14:11

Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)

Quote:

Originally Posted by strange1712 (Post 1175591)

LOL! JAJAJA

But that's what is used now by most people, "ni modo"... Ja

Sorry, what's the joke?

tgalal

2012-03-07 16:02

Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)

I expect a usable version to be ready next week.

TMavica

2012-03-07 16:05

Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)

it is for n9 or n900?

tgalal

2012-03-07 16:07

Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)

N9 and then N900 follows.

Virtuality

2012-03-07 16:55

Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)

Thanks tgalal

And please try your best for a n900 version!

amrarcher

2012-03-07 17:04

Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)

Quote:

Originally Posted by tgalal (Post 1175973)

N9 and then N900 follows.

eshm3na n9 ya 3m :P w b3deen n900

Arie	2012-03-07 17:12

Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)

Quote:

Originally Posted by tgalal (Post 1175967)

I expect a usable version to be ready next week.

Our N9 keeps getting better and better :)

Muzimak

2012-03-07 17:54

Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arie (Post 1176007)

Our N9 keeps getting better and better :)

U can say that again man, it's getting better and better, I think with Whatsapp and Skype Video call it's complete, I don't really use other video calls...

strange1712

2012-03-07 23:39

Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)

Quote:

Originally Posted by SamGan (Post 1175920)

Sorry, what's the joke?

The nicknames they recovered by WhatsApp security issue are indeed funny... so we know it's not the most secure service, but a lot of people use it, so we have to deal with it... even if it is then possible that some stranger laughs about your nick, jeje...

SamGan

2012-03-08 04:08

Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)

If Whatsapp come to know of this clone can they shut us out of their servers?

ajack

2012-03-08 10:19

Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)

Quote:

Originally Posted by SamGan (Post 1176299)

If Whatsapp come to know of this clone can they shut us out of their servers?

Once there is a working framework, we can tweak or insert fuzz codes to make detection harder if not impossible. :)

Reflektorfalke

2012-03-08 20:54

Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)

First of all, tgalal and other devs working on this, thanks a lot for your effort, great job!

Maybe I am a bit naive here, but has ever someone asked Whatsapp Inc. if they are interested in a cooperation?
I assume the only reason why there is no official app is that they think it is not worth the effort creating a Harmattan client.
If someone (e.g. one of the devs working on this port) would offer them to develop a client for them more or less for free, why would they decline this offer?
Wouldn´t this be a win-win situation?
Whatsapp would be present on another mobile platform and get more users, the devs would get all relevant information without reverse engineering and the community would get Whatsapp...

(ok, I understand the devs here might like the challenge to do it without the official support, but in the end, isn´t a full featured, nice and reliable app what we all want most? ;))

RX-51

2012-03-08 21:42

Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reflektorfalke (Post 1176740)

see http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...7&postcount=10:

Quote:

Originally Posted by futtawuh (Post 935127)

Ohwell, I asked about who the felt about porting whatsapp to Maemo5, this is what i got back from them.

"Sorry, your device maemo is currently not supported and we have no plans to support it at this time. We currently only support iPhone, BlackBerry, Android and Symbian devices."

Kind regards,
Futtawuh

Reflektorfalke

2012-03-08 21:56

Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)

Quote:

Originally Posted by RX-51 (Post 1176767)

see http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...7&postcount=10:

Well, this inquiry is from more than one year ago and it is regarding Maemo, not the more popular Harmattan.

And, even more important, it is, as far as I can see, not about the question if they are interested in cooperating with devs doing the development work form them...

soryuuha

2012-03-09 07:26

Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reflektorfalke (Post 1176772)

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Offici...18292841516960

http://i.imgur.com/0kIX7.jpg

Mada22009

2012-03-09 07:44

Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reflektorfalke (Post 1176772)

I E-mailed them that day and I got the exact same reply from them they are totally not interested in making an N9 version which I really couldn't understand.

Reflektorfalke

2012-03-09 08:27

Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mada22009 (Post 1176927)

I E-mailed them that day and I got the exact same reply from them they are totally not interested in making an N9 version which I really couldn't understand.

Did you ask if they will release a N9 version or did you ask if they are interested in a cooperation with community devs?

From a business perspective, I think there are reasons that make it totally understandable why they don't create an app for N9 themselves.
But I don't see why they would reject an offer where they would get an app more or less for free (unless there are political games going on I don't know of).

Mada22009

2012-03-09 12:40

Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)

i mentioned cooperating with them and they sent me the exact same replay, the thing is that they seem to have a specific reply to any thing regarding the n9 as they replied me with the exact same text mentioned above more than one time with several different questions. It could be just an auto reply of some sort.

tgalal

2012-03-09 13:44

Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reflektorfalke (Post 1176938)

The question is why would a developer offer them an app that he created, for free.

TMavica

2012-03-09 14:02

Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)

will you push it to store@@?

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