Re: 2012 Device Program: New Apps for Nokia Store
 

i sent ID and info, would like approval if it was received and not yet added or was lost on it's way (maybe sent to wrong email)

Re: 2012 Device Program: New Apps for Nokia Store
 

I got it, at 1:57am on a Sunday. And it's a sunny Summer Sunday today. :) You'll see the confirmation in the wiki page today or tomorrow.

Re: 2012 Device Program: New Apps for Nokia Store
 

thanks, sorry for rush, i just wasn't sure if i sent it to right place and if i sent right data, as it took time to find id and than i was told i shouldn't send thru forum form and was given email, so i just wanted to be usre you got it, and you may add it whenever you would have time =)
thanks again, btw it's hot summer day here, i would say too hot =P

Re: 2012 Device Program: New Apps for Nokia Store
 

Some people are reporting that courier asked them to clear custom duties before they could receive the shipment.
Is it necessary for us? No free shipping as said? :(

Re: 2012 Device Program: New Apps for Nokia Store
 

Regarding my accepted submission phoneME for Maemo - the open source JavaME virtual machine originally developed by Sun (now Oracle) which I ported to various problems including Maemo and MeeGo - I have some concerns with me being able to comply with the Nokia Terms and Conditions for publishing the app in the Nokia Store.

There are a bunch of technical requirements in the Nokia's T&C that are difficult to comply with as phoneME is not an end-user application but rather an enabling technology to run other applications (i.e. midlets). For example, I cannot guarantee that all passwords will be safely stored or that phoneME will not adversely affect the operation of a Target Device if the midlet running on top of phoneME is not properly designed and developed with security in mind. The T&C also seem to be incompatible with phoneME's original license, i.e. GPLv2.

I have send a request for clarification for these and other issues to Nokia Support last week, but have not yet received a reply. As the original code is owned by Oracle, I also got in touch with two (technical) people within Oracle who were involved in the phoneME project and who are familiar with my ports.

http://terrencebarr.wordpress.com/20...me-on-android/
https://blogs.oracle.com/hinkmond/en...me_advanced_to

Their feedback is that if I would go through Oracle legal to ask for permission to upload the port, that it would take a long time and in the end they will say no anyhow as the Nokia T&C is specifically not the GPLv2. They suggested asking Nokia for an exemption and provide a pointer to my website rather than publishing the actual build. They are OK with my putting all my builds and sources on my website, as I comply with the GPLv2 license.

I don't want anybody to end up in a bunch of legal discussions. My only motivation to apply for a N9 is to be able to reproduce issues reported by the community on a real device. So, I see three ways ahead now:
* Either Nokia is OK with the GPLv2 or with a pointer to my website (breaks the point of the Summer 2012 Device Program)
* Or I make my own simple front end application that downloads phoneME from my website (dirty hack)
* Or I retract my submission altogether.

Any feedback on how to proceed from here is much appreciated.

Best regards,
Davy

Re: 2012 Device Program: New Apps for Nokia Store
 

@qgil: I dropped you an email with my contact information (address etc). I was told that the user id is something like AID-xxxxxx and can be seen clicking on 'Developer account' on the right side when you login. Unfortunately, i am missing 'Developer account' there, my list ends with 'Discussion boards references'. I hope its okay as you have my username.

Re: 2012 Device Program: New Apps for Nokia Store
 

There is lots of GPL software on Nokia Store. Your application won't get rejected from Store for being GPL.

Re: 2012 Device Program: New Apps for Nokia Store
 

I confirm redak is GPL-3 and no problem w/ that ...

dispite they dont provide the source if user ask for it ...

Re: 2012 Device Program: New Apps for Nokia Store
 

My opinion is to submit it and see how it goes

My N950 is here. Let the hacking begin :)

Re: 2012 Device Program: New Apps for Nokia Store
 

Thanks for the feedback.

It is more than just the GPLv2 license. There are some technical issues as well that are a bit more problematic for phoneME due to the nature of the application.

https://publish.ovi.com/account/terms_and_conditions

Section 5.2: While phoneME may not cause any problems by itself, some midlets running on top of it may behave stupid, and I do not want to be held accountable for it.

Section 5.4: Making a separate downloader application for phoneME from my website would violate this term

Section 6: I am OK with that as long as Nokia sticks to the terms of the GPLv2 license (which I doubt they will comply with)

Section 7.1: phoneME is a fairly complex piece of software with a large portion of the code owned and released under GPLv2 by Sun/Oracle, not by me. This is why I asked the Oracle guys about their opinion

Section 8: Nokia can modify whatever they want, but will they release the sources of the changes?

Section 16: phoneME is released without the classpath exception, so if somebody decides to package phoneME with his/her closed source midlet, they have to open source their app too.

Section 17.5: IANAL, but these terms seem to be in violation with the GPLv2 license

Section 17.6.5: phoneME is an enabling technology to run other applications which can impair the operation of your device.

Section 4.9: So, you all promise to respond to customers within five business days? I am already getting a lot of mails why some midlets do not work (basically because I do not support all JSRs, or bugs in the midlets themselves). I for sure cannot guarantee I will always respond to issues within this time period.

I don't want to sound paranoid, but I presume these T&C are there for a reason. Just submit and see what happens is not something that I would feel comfortable with. Also, the fact that there are many GPL applications in the store is not a solid reason.

Cheers,
Davy

Re: 2012 Device Program: New Apps for Nokia Store
 

I just think that in this period of time they are very relaxed about the T&C. Things that got various apps rejected in the olden days do not seem to be an issue anymore (about screens etc.)

Maybe it's because I am from Greece where rules are made to be broken, but I believe that if we really read every fine print we encounter, or think of all possible legal implications in anything we do in our lives we would just spend all our lives reading and trying to interpret legal documents, and achieve nothing.

Anyway this application will improve the possibility of running apps on the N9 vastly and this is the core incentive of this device program so even if they cannot officially make an exemption they will silently allow the application in the store. Probably, shaking the waters too much will cause an unneeded refusal (due to legalities that cannot be bent to excuse an official YES), which wouldn't happen if you just tried.

<offtopic> my N950 is unbootable after OTA, trying with oneclick flasher to revive it</offtopic>

Re: 2012 Device Program: New Apps for Nokia Store
 

Who is 'some people' ?

Re: 2012 Device Program: New Apps for Nokia Store
 

The AID is not required. Your plain developer.nokia.com user name aka BluesLee is good enough.

Re: 2012 Device Program: New Apps for Nokia Store
 

DavyP, if your software can't be published because of the small print of terms and conditions then it's clear that you have done what you could from your side.

Your project is quite original and deserves recognition and support. I'm happy sending you the device anyway so you can test properly. Thank your for your patience trying to do the right thing!

Re: 2012 Device Program: New Apps for Nokia Store
 

It was Mr. Abhishek Kumar (shwstppr) author of Cutepress. He is from my country and my friend.
Told me today

Re: 2012 Device Program: New Apps for Nokia Store
 

The aim is that all developers they get devices without any cost. We are looking at the case of Abhishek.

We are still missing the data from Lasse Stenberg (orava). All the rest are on track.

Re: 2012 Device Program: New Apps for Nokia Store
 

My second app in participation, Blob for Meego just passed QA.

It'd soon be available at
http://store.ovi.com/content/266343
will update wiki entry after that.

So one device got through 2 big apps ;)
now I'm more excited :)

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@qgil:
I still haven't any news here
Please remember what I've wrote you via email
Today someone from Nokia sent me an email asking about the Lumia that I've never received because I didn't have the money
Hope you send the new device via TNT, maybe DHL is the problem
QtAmbassador program sent me a device without any customs problem and I didn't have to pay anything

Re: 2012 Device Program: New Apps for Nokia Store
 

Maybe it was just me, but I was under an impression that these submissions would be free downloads, just noticed that FotoShareN9 costs 2e, that would make it not so popular for wider audiances.

And yes there is GPLv3 git repository avail, which is a good thing, so the cheap gates can compile the .deb themselves, but that doesn't help the average end user who doesn't know how to use git.

Re: 2012 Device Program: New Apps for Nokia Store
 

I've kept both my apps free. And if I receive the device properly, it'd be more than enough compensation to keep it free forever

Re: 2012 Device Program: New Apps for Nokia Store
 

N9 has just arrived :). Thank you!

Re: 2012 Device Program: New Apps for Nokia Store
 

I think to make two version, one with donation if people would like to pay for it, but it's after i'll feel my app is fully working (it is fully working now, but i think i need to add more features to call it fully functional client)

Re: 2012 Device Program: New Apps for Nokia Store
 

I just found the Nokia Store online marketing tool, which can produce banners for apps which have been accepted in to the store (note that the url you use in the tool has to be the store.ovi.com format).

Might be useful :)


http://snac.nokia.com/hosted/4f/e0/-...n9-20-a2b9.jpg

Re: 2012 Device Program: New Apps for Nokia Store
 

Thanks Quim. The device will certainly help me test phoneME
on the N9. And if at some point I can sort out the remaining T&C
issues to everyone's satisfaction, I will upload phoneME to the Nokia
Store.

Cheers,
Davy

Re: 2012 Device Program: New Apps for Nokia Store
 

http://i.imgur.com/Gm8xD.jpg

Here you go — my app s published =)

89 downloads in 3 days =)

Re: 2012 Device Program: New Apps for Nokia Store
 

Nfc Keyring is released:

http://store.ovi.com/content/284611

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https://p.twimg.com/AvzeoZfCEAAfiQm.jpg:large
Happy to check that my app has passed QA review, now waiting for the confirmation mail from QA team.

I am loving it . . .

Re: 2012 Device Program: New Apps for Nokia Store
 

My app got published at Nokia Store

Link: http://store.nokia.com/content/289829

Updated the wiki page.

qgil when i am receiving my device?
Anxious to know :)

Re: 2012 Device Program: New Apps for Nokia Store
 

I present you Blob , now available from Nokia store for N9, with its first and five star review =))

http://store.ovi.com/content/266343

Re: 2012 Device Program: New Apps for Nokia Store
 

My app to got 5star review.

Good start :)

Re: 2012 Device Program: New Apps for Nokia Store
 

Tweetian is now published at Nokia Store :D

http://store.ovi.com/content/280255

Also updated the wiki page.
Thanks qgil and everyone who helped me :)

Re: 2012 Device Program: New Apps for Nokia Store
 

*one week passes... No mail, no info... :(

Re: 2012 Device Program: New Apps for Nokia Store
 

Most likely you just have to be patient, its been 9 days for me with no mail, no info... :-)

Re: 2012 Device Program: New Apps for Nokia Store
 

I too Frustrated bcoz of no reply and info :(


atleast they should send us some info

Re: 2012 Device Program: New Apps for Nokia Store
 

there are few other awards and not many people who devoted their time to make it possible, be patient and you'll recive one. It's a lot buracrisity(spelled that word wrong sorry) and you need to thanks that its taken care off =)

Re: 2012 Device Program: New Apps for Nokia Store
 

hey dude. It's not even one week for you! I'm waiting for 2 (2 after publishing, 1 after removing WAITING status) weeks :|

Re: 2012 Device Program: New Apps for Nokia Store
 

yes. Full credit and thanks to those who made it possible :) Especially Qgil

Re: 2012 Device Program: New Apps for Nokia Store
 

Monday is coming ;) one mail please

Re: 2012 Device Program: New Apps for Nokia Store
 

Scrobbler was submitted yesterday, QA process began!

Re: 2012 Device Program: New Apps for Nokia Store
 

Got a forwarded mail from DHL. :) Hope it reaches soon and safe