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javispedro 2013-08-12 17:01

Re: Will the tablet world change now?
 
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Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1366613)
It's already pretty thick. The battery life is OK, when you think of what you can do. Other tables can't even do half of what this can.

No, it's really not for a 2013 $1000 tablet. It's not good for a 2013 $1000 laptop either. I'm willing to accept a measly battery life on my much older µPC, but this has no excuse. Specially when the figures they give are for _idle_.

Besides, you're on maemo.org. We certainly know that "other tablets can't even do half of what this can" is not true.

mrsellout 2013-08-12 17:36

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There's promise of great improvements with regards to battery life in the new Haswell ULX that's due for launch next month.

So if they release a Surface Pro II, you might get your wish.

Dave999 2013-10-20 12:50

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Anyone bought the new Surface pro 2?

Dave999 2013-10-22 16:17

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Two new tablets will be announced today.

In the red corner: the underdog Lumia 2520. And in the blue corner: The current champion: iPad 5.

live stream...from apple event: http://www.ustream.tv/ltktv Live with some real major apple fans...boys :D

I would now call it Apple iPound, but the real name is called iPad Air.

gerbick 2013-10-22 19:21

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Nokia 2520 runs Windows 8.1 RT. iPad Air runs iOS 7. One of those has a bigger set of developers than the other and one has been panned in the first iteration of its release.

Sadly, Nokia chose the Windows RT path. Just like the WP8 (limited manufacturers), they're ultimately the only manufacturer (other than Microsoft) that's actively producing a Windows RT product. Simply stated, they're not going to sell a lot of those. Having LTE, a very nice screen and a snappy Qualcomm chipset isn't going to help them out.

And I say that with a Surface 2 in my own house. I just don't see it being a commercial success.

iPad Air, silly name, but falls right into scope with their existing line - Mac Book Pro, Mac Book Air, Mac Mini, Mac Pro, iPad Air, iPad Mini... coherent and not 4 random numbers that mean nothing to me because I'm just not counting any longer.

iPad Air and iPad Mini wins over Microsoft Surface 2/2 Pro and Nokia 2520... hands down.

Dave999 2013-10-22 19:37

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I can give a iPad if you sending that surfade 2 My way

gerbick 2013-10-22 19:39

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Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1381867)
I can give a iPad if you sending that surfade 2 My way

No thanks. I have an iPad Mini already.

Dave999 2013-10-22 20:04

Re: Will the tablet world change now?
 
Let's say you visiting a website on your Ipad mini. There is a video stream that you like to see or Atleast listen to. But when you are switching tab to TMO to see what the great and powerful dave999 has written the sound disappears. How do you solve that on Ipad mini?

How can windows be worse than That...

gerbick 2013-10-22 20:22

Re: Will the tablet world change now?
 
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Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1381874)
Let's say you visiting a website on your Ipad mini. There is a video stream that you like to see or Atleast listen to. But when you are switching tab to TMO to see what the great and powerful dave999 has written the sound disappears. How do you solve that on Ipad mini?

Love your overestimation of your power and writing skills. I use Google Chrome (despite Safari actually being snappier) on my iPad Mini and thus, I use tabs. Just like a desktop browser, if I'm streaming in one tab, it will stop once I focus on another tab. So, not sure what you were going for; it's the same for any in-browser use. If you mean via another app, like the YouTube app and then I switch to the browser, then it will halt.

Just like Android (non-windowed instanced videos) and just like unpinned Windows 8.1 (RT and Pro) on a Surface. Once you pin a streaming video instance and browse in the same screen; you're golden. I can stream and read your "brilliance" without having to lose either of them. But... that's already known.

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How can windows be worse than That...
Erm... it's Windows. So let's start there.

Dave999 2013-10-22 20:52

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Even so I think windows will eat some market shares. Slowly but steady...

Would be laser sharp With sailfish or Ubuntu tablet. I think Ubuntu tablet could be somthing EXtrodenariy

mscion 2013-10-22 21:08

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Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1381874)
Let's say you visiting a website on your Ipad mini. There is a video stream that you like to see or Atleast listen to. But when you are switching tab to TMO to see what the great and powerful dave999 has written the sound disappears. How do you solve that on Ipad mini?

How can windows be worse than That...

On the Note 3 I can simultaneously watch CNN, a You Tube video and bask in the radiance of Dave999's wisdom. Ouch! I'm getting sunburned!

gerbick 2013-10-22 21:10

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Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1381878)
Even so I think windows will eat some market shares. Slowly but steady...

That hasn't happened yet. Anyway, I'll let you continue on with your speculation(s). Reality has been totally different so far.

Dave999 2013-10-22 21:10

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I know me too... That's why the iPad is so 90s even if it was announced today:D

Did I mention it came with 3 GB.

Btw. Android experimenting with all application in windows. That would mean that you will soon be able to run 10 apps per screen if you like. Similar to note but build into android. If you could save the coordinates like poker tables it would be awesome. Or even send links and screen settings to open image ,mail and video at receaver screen.

Gerbick, windows growing slowly...even if we want it or not.

gerbick 2013-10-22 21:55

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Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1381886)
Gerbick, windows growing slowly...even if we want it or not.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-hp97yAfP_h...er-300x300.jpg

Oh really? Too bad more people disagree than agree.

Dave999 2013-10-23 04:48

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Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 1381896)
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-hp97yAfP_h...er-300x300.jpg

Oh really? Too bad more people disagree than agree.

That's an guestimate and not the truth... And if you read gartners report. Windows have higher number 2014 than 2013. But gartners estimate decline of windows overall decline 4,3%. This is pc/macs/cromebooks including as well. Android rules even more since windows losing since pc market get exchanged to mobile devices where windows is not that strong. But still increasing mobile wise. . But Android sales is too superior, Compared to that Windows increase next to nothing. Same goes for iOS/OSx, slightly better(increased sales) than Windows but nothing compared with Android. BlackBerry falling...

Sorry. Only time will tell.

When will tablets, phones replace laptops as workstation in office?

gerbick 2013-10-25 03:15

Re: Will the tablet world change now?
 
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Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1381910)
When will tablets, phones replace laptops as workstation in office?

When battery technology and user input/experience catches up.

ARJWright 2013-10-27 22:57

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Originally Posted by mscion (Post 1381884)
On the Note 3 I can simultaneously watch CNN, a You Tube video and bask in the radiance of Dave999's wisdom. Ouch! I'm getting sunburned!

Look, I'm as much a fan of multi-everything as anyone here. But, there's nothing polished about the quoted multi-tasking display. Powerful? Maybe... if power is disorganized windows. Versatile? Yes. But being versatile doesn't equal power.

One of the things that Apple has done well, is that they aren't adding so much to the primary UX that its disrupting their own ethos. Amongst companng them and everyone else, their not-quite-multasking UX has meant they concentrate on opimizing touch response time, speed of screen refreshes, and other small details that really just mean "its not so powerful but dang is it smooth." They aren't running the specs game exactly. And at the same time they are. They are basically saying that they can make a cleaner experience with their cards than you can with yours. And to that, they are #winning.

MS is learning that aspect of things, and to some degree working towards the same aims. But, in doing so, they are losing some of their inherent advantages. They do multi-tasking well on these new tablets, but that's not translating to anything more than "its just as powerful as a laptop." They can't/won't do that on their phones, even though that's where the UI would shine (gesture up/down to search/open new app and switch between - seriously easy transition given WP's UI direction).

Jolla's UX misses on this, as does FirefoxOS, and a few other shells out there. Its not about the shiny, nor the features. Its paying attention to the details that will only matter in the end as something consumers will just "feel" as better. Even when they don't have the words to say "yea, that looks cool, but it feels so complicated." - person looking at the quoted screenshot but responding based on gut, not on tech knowledge.


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