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tissot 2012-07-07 21:43

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cBeam (Post 1233622)
Duh, looking them up on linkedin was the first thing I did. I keep my thoughts to myself after I read their profiles.

So again, does anyone have any background info about these guys? What makes them stand out? Are these the kind of executives that can pull it off in the mobile computer business? Did anyone work with them and has an opinion about them?

At least when Stefano left Nokia my twitter with Finnish Nokia employes exploded with people thanking him for the time he was in the company and that Nokia lost amazing engineer.
Don't know about others.


Somebody was already suggesting Vanjoki for the company. While he was threated like sh1t being the only member of the original Nokia dream team not getting CEO spot, this company needs non of the old Nokia execs.
Though he can happily invest to it, that who knows he might have already. Maybe OPK has dropped some coins as well.

wow23 2012-07-07 21:55

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some inf. from google/linkedin

Dr. Antti Saarnio – Finland Investor / Financier
Mr. Jussi Hurmola – in past: Director of MeeGo Computers Releases and Integration at Nokia
Mr. Sami Pienimäki – working in product management/marketing, telephone communications
Mr. Stefano Mosconi – in past: MeeGo IT Manager at Nokia
Maemo IT Team Leader at Nokia
Infrastructure Engineer at Nokia
Mr. Marc Dillon – in past: MeeGo (was Maemo, OSSO) Principal Engineer, Configuration Management at Nokia
S40 CoreSW Integrator at Nokia
Symbian Build Manager / Team Leader at Nokia
Configuration Management Administrator at Nokia

danramos 2012-07-07 21:57

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I'm conservatively hopeful for these turn of events.

gerbick 2012-07-07 21:57

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tissot (Post 1233633)
Somebody was already suggesting Vanjoki for the company. While he was threated like sh1t being the only member of the original Nokia dream team not getting CEO spot, this company needs non of the old Nokia execs.
Though he can happily invest to it, that who knows he might have already. Maybe OPK has dropped some coins as well.

Until confirmed, I'd personally hold on banter as such because it'll create unrealistic hopes.

This is just the beginning of their public statements from a company that has been around since late last year building slowly it seems.

lma 2012-07-07 22:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by panukooo (Post 1233631)
I think this project is what was Meltemi

Nah, that was only scrapped just now, while these guys have been going for nearly a year. Besides, it's already been established that the project is Mer-based.

(this is all information posted right here on this thread btw, I mean speculating is one thing but at least make the effort to use the information readily available)

Joseph9560 2012-07-07 22:57

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Best wishes from my side but I don't have much hope of success. They will reach nowhere even after years.

Dersonne 2012-07-07 23:43

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N900 would be my last Nokia Mobile phone.I am willing to jump ship on Jollamobile :D

ujwalsoni 2012-07-07 23:45

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If you read their tweets, I think it's fairly clear that Nokia is putting the moolah in here..

Firminator 2012-07-07 23:52

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Just give us a qwerty slider Jolla !

Dersonne 2012-07-07 23:56

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N900 and N9 enthusiasts Your freely to join here

http://www.facebook.com/groups/320329091389895/

whayong 2012-07-08 00:18

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Here's to hoping for a real successor to the N900!

jotoco 2012-07-08 02:21

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Peet (Post 1233621)
Well there are still manufacturing facilities outside Europe in free countries, and with the cost of manufacturing rising in a certain large east Asian empire why wouldn't modern largely automated manufacturing be financially feasible in various locations.

But I know what you mean and that's why it was merely a wish...

I do know, however, that before Nokia abandoned its soul for Elop's microsoftian self-immolation plan, part of the reason they were so popular around the world was the simple fact that they were from a respected neutral part of the world and that they used to put the customer first.

Jolla might be able to inherit some of that goodwill and build upon it.

Brazil has Apple, HP, Nokia, LG, Samsung, and (until recently) HTC factories, as far as I know.

So, if they want we could house their product facilities here.

I'm actually an Electronics Engineer (although never worked with anything close to smartphones), if I could help in any way, I would.

TheLongshot 2012-07-08 03:05

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Good to see this. I hope they aren't the only company who picks up the standard after Nokia's implosion, since we probably need more than one to increase the odds of having a device like the N900 or N9 in my pocket.

Not on FB, but I will follow them on Twitter.

shabmanu 2012-07-08 03:40

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do nokia come up with patent or copyright issues to halt jolla?
is nokia behind this company?

railroadmaster 2012-07-08 04:24

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7759VIZ3Wg
All I can say is this

udaychaitanya16 2012-07-08 06:24

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I am going to hate them if it is not released in INDIA.

mikecomputing 2012-07-08 07:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Peet (Post 1233598)
I'm going to wish this endeavour a long and successful life of relative continuity!

Two other wishes: that they don't outsource the manufacturing of the designed devices to sweatshops in some distant dictatorship, and that they carefully choose hardware with open enough specifications so that the devices can be fully supported come hell or high water...

And how much are you willing to pay for that?

Schturman 2012-07-08 08:02

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Just hopes to a new, fast and beautiful device like n9.

lma 2012-07-08 08:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by eccenux (Post 1233548)
It's not just a transparent QUWERTY. It's 4 buttons which (with practice) you can hit blindly. Some letters are a bit strangle distributed (e.g. A to two dots, but R to close circle) but I guess you can get used to it with time.

Hm, ok, but that again sounds like something for occasional one-liner use. I can't see myself using such a thing for working on a document, writing an email, or command line work.

OVK 2012-07-08 08:56

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Jolla is interesting. I hope that we will get at least a polished geek toy.

Maybe a "consumer friendly geek toy" (with things like good camera, offline navigation, working Exchange implementation but still open enough to be hacked and tinkered with) is too much to hope for.

It would be interesting to know how much existing infrastructure they are planning to use. I mean things like Apps for Meego for distributing the applications or even TMO for community engagement.

I hope something good comes out of this.

mariusmssj 2012-07-08 09:05

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it seems like they know what they want and how they want to do it. So the plan is there if they can deliver i will definitely buy their device

droll 2012-07-08 09:10

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i'm sure they can deliver on the software seeing how the core team members from meego form their team. but hardware play is a totally different ball game. you need a lot of $$$ too.

if they don't make it with the hardware i at least hope they can release updated versions of meego for the n9 (or even n900)..

mariusmssj 2012-07-08 09:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by droll (Post 1233796)
i'm sure they can deliver on the software seeing how the core team members from meego form their team. but hardware play is a totally different ball game. you need a lot of $$$ too.

if they don't make it with the hardware i at least hope they can release updated versions of meego for the n9 (or even n900)..

tbh i think it could to ported to N9 just like an Android was. But they do say they already have hardware partners and investors.

And if they will open a donation page i will be more than happy to donate

dumpystig 2012-07-08 09:25

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I expect things will be pretty tough for the Jolla guys particularly on the manufacturing side and getting a finished product to market, but I hope they have great success in giving us the N9 successor that Nokia should have been doing round about this time.

I wish them every success and will be closely following developments with great anticipation.

Good luck to all at Jolla ;)

benny1967 2012-07-08 09:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 1233769)
And how much are you willing to pay for that?

Good question. I'd say I'd pay up to 25% more for a device if they manufacture in a place with decent working conditions and let me know. So a €600-device from cheap china would turn into a €750-handset for me.

No idea at all if this could be enough, but I probably wouldn't want to invest more.

automagic68 2012-07-08 09:36

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Could they get us Skype video chat?!?!?!

dumpystig 2012-07-08 09:38

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BTW, I'm feeling really good following this thread - makes a welcome change from all the cr@p that's been floating round TMO these past few weeks.

Happy days :)

mariusmssj 2012-07-08 09:48

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by benny1967 (Post 1233808)
Good question. I'd say I'd pay up to 25% more for a device if they manufacture in a place with decent working conditions and let me know. So a €600-device from cheap china would turn into a €750-handset for me.

No idea at all if this could be enough, but I probably wouldn't want to invest more.

Talking about that, i just saw what foxconn does with their apple workers and it's just sick =[ no one should be treated like that!

danramos 2012-07-08 09:50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dumpystig (Post 1233810)
BTW, I'm feeling really good following this thread - makes a welcome change from all the cr@p that's been floating round TMO these past few weeks.

Happy days :)

Don't even try to make it sound like it's any group of individuals. Nobody's fault but Nokia's.

dumpystig 2012-07-08 09:53

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^ hmmm... I disagree Mr. Ramos.

But let's just be happy with what's happening (or may be happening) with developments in this thread ;)

mikecomputing 2012-07-08 10:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by automagic68 (Post 1233809)
Could they get us Skype video chat?!?!?!

Probadly not if you dont want to pay microsoft... I dont expect skype et all. Atleast not preinstalled.

youmeego 2012-07-08 10:16

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i hope jolla can use swipe(swipe to return to homescreen), this gem is useless at nokia.

GigaByte 2012-07-08 10:18

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This thing blows.

youmeego 2012-07-08 10:22

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 
please clarify

the comapny is called jolla
the operating system it developes is called jolla mobile?

Aparaatti 2012-07-08 10:45

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disagree also, few whiners whine a lot. This is better than i imagined, but boy I'm glad of living in finnish society, since the talent didn't leak, which was in the news already when the layoffs started. It's at least some of the nokia i liked took a jolla and paddled with the burning platform with em :)

Zoxir 2012-07-08 10:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mariusmssj (Post 1233803)
tbh i think it could to ported to N9 just like an Android was. But they do say they already have hardware partners and investors.

And if they will open a donation page i will be more than happy to donate

If they have hardware parteners why would they ask for donations? I\d buy their product if I could but I wouldn't donate with just the promise of a meego device.

sony123 2012-07-08 11:18

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Some random thoughts spring to my mind:

It would be funny if Jolla has business relationship with Nokia... if Nokia does, then why not just let Jolla use Harmattan??

If the device will be available this year, then my guess is the UI is on Qt 4.x.

The project sounds in some way like Maemo 5: more open, but less commercial apps (I assume this is a given for now). I truly hope the company is not only targeting geek audience, but doubt how they are going to market the device to more general public without major commercial services available. For N9, at least there are some commercial ones like Skype and Nokia Map available...

UI and hw adaption are significant work, but the company seems to know clearly what it needs to do to get products out. I feel they are at an advantage to move fast now, unlike working in Nokia the goal was a wildly floating one and then management needed to deal with political craps. But then, I won't believe until the product is available.

dietyyli 2012-07-08 11:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sony123 (Post 1233836)
If the device will be available this year, then my guess is the UI is on Qt 4.x.

Jolla uses Mer. Mer is using Qt 5.

http://twitter.com/stskeeps/status/221695032309194752

onethreealpha 2012-07-08 11:35

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What would be really interesting is if there is any relationship between the announcement and the news that Amazon is in the midst of developing a handset targeted at competing with iOS and Android.

If there was ever an opportunity for a MeeGo based OS to gain traction, it would be on the back of an existing "ecosystem" like Amazon's market....

Food for thought ;)

jotoco 2012-07-08 11:39

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by benny1967 (Post 1233808)
Good question. I'd say I'd pay up to 25% more for a device if they manufacture in a place with decent working conditions and let me know. So a €600-device from cheap china would turn into a €750-handset for me.

No idea at all if this could be enough, but I probably wouldn't want to invest more.

Well, you could buy an iPad mini just fine, then. It seems they are using their plant here in Brazil to produce the first batch, at least.

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And I look forward to the day Jolla Mobile gets bigger than Nokia and outright buys the remains of Elop's scorched earth tactics.


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