Re: tracking issues and events with maemo.org infra migration#2
 

I don't think this is helpful for the community. Please guys.......

Re: tracking issues and events with maemo.org infra migration#2
 

It feels you two cant bear with each thats why quality bullying from both sides .you both are bullying equally let alone ingenius facts to be setteld and as the avove post says it dosent help anyone either way. I would not say stop bullying insted advice to continue in somewhat polite manner as this seems more a case of misunderstanding malinformed overlooking misjudging overlooked facts copuled with personal ego on either sides...,,continue.....pls

Re: tracking issues and events with maemo.org infra migration#2
 

Yup. Such a bully that I stepped down and left four months ago. :confused:

I only stop back here a few times a month to see what progress has happened, mainly so I can be relieved of the last commitment I have to the Board. See, unlike the others I didn't step down and vanish while holding the keys. (I'm the only one with access to the bank account right now.) I'm mainly doing it because of the personal hell I had to go through to get access again, and not wishing that on anyone.

I just found it ironic that Joerg would blame his tool of choice as the reason he's leaving, and I said so. You call that bullying? Go ahead... I really don't care. I call it laughing at a bully getting his comeuppance.

I risked at lot, put myself out there legally, threw literally thousands at this project and got **** on by just about everyone for doing so. Right now, I don't really care what most in the community think of me, least of all someone not willing to even put their real name on a forum profile.

Most people in my position would walk away and **** you all by not doing proper a hand-off. (You know, like the last 5 Board members to leave.) But I'm such a "bully" that I'm sticking around until everything is handed off instead of just saying "**** you" and leaving you all screwed. Not because I expect thanks from anyone, but because it's what I'd appreciate others doing were they in my shoes, and because I said I would.

I got my backups, and will probably burn them to DVD to give to whomever I sell/give my N900s to when the time comes. Have fun while your servers are still running, however long that is. (Which depends now on you avoiding pissing off the rest of the people trying to keep this going... Good luck with that.)

Re: tracking issues and events with maemo.org infra migration#2
 

fresh packages should start appear again

[2014-06-21 Sat 15:50:14] <xes> #log: www:/home/niels/downloads/update-downloads.sh and update-downloads-fremantle.sh fixed and enabled again in crontab since there is no evidence of problem and load generated is near zero
[2014-06-21 Sat 15:56:04] <xes> #log: it seems that the update scripts were pointing to /home/xfade that doesn't exist (??). niel's home seems to have the same php scripts
[2014-06-21 Sat 15:58:44] <DocScrutinizer05> niels==xfade?
[2014-06-21 Sat 15:59:38] <DocScrutinizer05> Niels Breet
[2014-06-21 Sat 16:00:29] <DocScrutinizer05> http://maemo.org/profile/view/xfade/
[2014-06-21 Sat 16:01:30] <xes> /home/niels/downloads contains the update scripts that where evidently prepared to be executed in /home/xfade/downloads but /home/xfade does not exists
[2014-06-21 Sat 16:02:11] <DocScrutinizer05> during migration obviously user xfade got renamed to niels

Re: tracking issues and events with maemo.org infra migration#2
 

Let's see if things work as they should as soon as new packages appear.

Re: tracking issues and events with maemo.org infra migration#2
 

Is this a proper thread to ask if emails with activation links are properly sent during garage account creation?

Spam folders are also empty

Re: tracking issues and events with maemo.org infra migration#2
 

I'd ping techstaff <at> maemo <dot> org , myself

Re: tracking issues and events with maemo.org infra migration#2
 

Thanks. I guess there are more problems than sending email.

Re: tracking issues and events with maemo.org infra migration#2
 

Mail server is returning into a normal state.

Re: tracking issues and events with maemo.org infra migration#2
 

And how do you imagine maemo.org without the access to the flashing images? They were put on skeiron.

Who takes care of the both mirrors?

Re: tracking issues and events with maemo.org infra migration#2
 

since two years, sure :p

Re: tracking issues and events with maemo.org infra migration#2
 

Been trying to access bugs.maemo.org all day and keep getting:

Re: tracking issues and events with maemo.org infra migration#2
 

For me the same.

A temporary workaround:
use FF
options - advanced - certificates - validation
and deselect 'use the ocsp ...'

Afterwards turn it on again.

We do need new certificates. Afaik they are ordered and paid but not yet ready? Or what is the status?

Re: tracking issues and events with maemo.org infra migration#2
 

oh, that's why I was getting the following bit when trying to go to the voting page... (it is available in both http and https, BTW... and I of course prefer https version)

Re: tracking issues and events with maemo.org infra migration#2
 

Uh oh :(
That is bad news. Did not think of voting page. A lot of people will have this issue.
What about possibility of getting certs very fast? Zero?!
Then we need to make sure all voters are informed and point out this workaround in Firefox (do not know for other browsers).

Re: tracking issues and events with maemo.org infra migration#2
 

AFAIK warfare was looking into them a few months ago.
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=93003

Re: tracking issues and events with maemo.org infra migration#2
 

Not really a big issue for the ongoing voting; and as there were no complains yet.
And absolutely no one for people using (also) N9, as grob just claims the missing/invalid cert and let you continue. :)
N900 user will not be able to use https from beginning but when connected in home WiFi is not an security issue also (mind mitm in public networks ;) [a one-time token]).

--
BUT we need a solution in near future ...

Re: tracking issues and events with maemo.org infra migration#2
 

Mods, if you're going to remove all those posts, at least mention where it's been put, don't just "whisk it into thin air" please...
I still don't see the point, the discussion was very much related to maemo.org infra/migration, some of the posts just needed the 'personal' elements removed.

Re: tracking issues and events with maemo.org infra migration#2
 

Agree with jalyst - migration is about the images too.

Re: tracking issues and events with maemo.org infra migration#2
 

It's been mentioned a couple times already that some posts should moved to offtopic section.

I haven't read the whole topic (have not time), so excuse me if I've moved some wrong posts to the offtopic section.

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=93451

Re: tracking issues and events with maemo.org infra migration#2
 

See http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...08#post1324708
There's nothing wrong with keeping this thread a tiny bit on topic. Otherwise it loses its original purpose

On a sidenote to jalyst: mods are not supposed to edit posts, and honestly they would be overcharged to edit some of the moved posts, it would require to write them anew from scratch.

Re: tracking issues and events with maemo.org infra migration#2
 

When will someone finally fix the non-free upload?

I used some other package, which was already built, but it's the only way to fix broken libicu48 (because autobuilder is broken with the squeeze devkit)

Re: tracking issues and events with maemo.org infra migration#2
 

The discussion wasn't strictly about HiFo (as that thread's titled), it was about finding ways to overcome the hosting quagmire for proprietary bits, which isn't completely off-topic in this thread. Spinning it out to an "off-topic" thread doesn't make sense in this instance, as it was at least loosely on-topic, only some content in Woody's/Joer's posts was off-topic (as it was personal attacks).

It wasn't strictly on-topic, but it was definitely closely related in that it was talking about how best to deal with hosting of the proprietary bits, I don't see how that's completely off-topic.
Woody raised some legit concerns around that, they mustn't be whitewashed as if they're not there, it must be laid out & ideas thrown about as-to-how we avoid/mitigate future (potential) issues, no?

If this thread must strictly be about tracking highly technical events relating to maemo.org infra/migration...
Then at the very least that discussion should be moved to a new dedicated thread that deals with the contentious issue of:
"How best to host proprietary bits which HiFo's (governance body & legal entity for maemo/meego community) legally not allowed to, & Nokia/MS hasn't (so far) agreed to do for us."
It shouldn't be moved to a thread that's merely a dumping ground for off-topic posts in the "off-topic" sub-forum.
Anyway what's done is done I guess, I'm not going to bother following that other thread, will just stay sub'd to this, not attacking anyone so apologies if anyone sees it like that.

Re: tracking issues and events with maemo.org infra migration#2
 

Please retry it and ping me if still doesn't works.

Re: tracking issues and events with maemo.org infra migration#2
 

Still

Btw., xes, do you know about this "bug": http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...91#post1387091

Re: tracking issues and events with maemo.org infra migration#2
 

Ok, it seems there were a lot of things not in the right place.
I have mounted a missing nfs share and fixed a bunch of symlinks.

Re: tracking issues and events with maemo.org infra migration#2
 

It seems that some warning inside scratchbox appears as error inside our autobuilder (this explain why the packages builds in your box and not into autobuilder)
So it's no exactly a bug to be fixed..

I have fighted a lot with that trouble while packaging fltk:
https://garage.maemo.org/builder/fre...log.FAILED.txt
and solved here:
https://garage.maemo.org/builder/fre...1.3.2-1maemo5/

Returning to your package, it seems it's missing "dh_makeshlibs" and i think you should upload it without /debian/*.shlibs.

Feel free to take a look to the latest fltk build to check if there is something that can help.

Re: tracking issues and events with maemo.org infra migration#2
 

Ah.. But if you have people who are supposed to be "leading the community" that are instead actively attacking the core that's keeping things legally and financially afloat? I assure you that will cause a lot more trouble then a broken garage script, or having to suggest P2P of device images.

How well do you think this community will do when you have a freshly elected Council member threatening to file suite against people for "slander", and sending threatening private mail, like this:

Nice huh? Not the first time he's threatened suits against people either. He privately (and the later publicly) did that to at least two Board members over the past cycle as well. That's a small part of why I left the Board, to distance myself before his childish internet rages and ****-ups became my liability.

BTW Joerg: Here's my reply, IN PUBLIC, for all to see. See, I don't play little dumb *** "behind the scenes" games. I say what I say in public, and stand by it. That's true of all my promises, good and bad.

Up till now, I've been nice. Mainly because I've seen you as little more than an internet clown, throwing tantrums over stupid crap that often didn't matter. It was annoying, and threatened Maemo a few times, but never threatened me directly. But let me be perfectly clear: You show up on my radar in the real world and you will regret it. I get so much as a letter from a legal firm, your world will be upside down before you get the confirmation receipt.

Think I'm joking? Keep in mind who bankrolled starting up the Foundation, and who wired YOU money personally in the past to help you out when you were financially low. No write-offs, no recognition, nothing expected in return. You think about real hard, and reconsider the bee hive you're swinging at, before you start something that I'll wind up finishing.

To the rest of you: Good luck... with "leaders" like this, technical infra events are going to be the least of your concerns.

Re: tracking issues and events with maemo.org infra migration#2
 

***shrug*** just again a lil correction needed: while it sounds like dear Woody helped me out of a private pinch, actually his money transfers he mentioned been for maemo infra and perfectly reported how they got actually used for that purpose, thanks to HiFo not being capable to handle that stuff at all (frozen accounts etc). The rest is for my lawyer and district attorney, not for this forum - the reason why I did send a PM to start with.
@mods: please move this post and the one above and one below to /dev/null, they are both^H all 3 totally off topic in this thread.
http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...&postcount=152 as well
http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...&postcount=153 too, and
http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...&postcount=154
Thanks!

To jalyst (one below) and to all others: This thread is about technical issues encountered/fixed by techstaff. It also might take a bug report, though actually we got bugs.maemo.org for that. This thread definitely isn't the right one to discuss http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...67&postcount=1 and I can't even spot your first post, I assume it been already inmidst the whole misery. Generally continuing discussion about off topic in a thread that got cleaned of such off topic IS off topic. Techstaff is supposed to have an instant notification per email and receives such about all your off topic posts. You're damaging the purpose of this thread! Stop feeding the troll!

Re: tracking issues and events with maemo.org infra migration#2
 

My post woody responded to wasn't off-topic (it kinda urgently needs to be addressed by mods/council/hifo), but woody/joer blasted things into off-topic territory once again, sigh...

Joer, I suggest you read the entire post that woody addressed (mine that is), that thread isn't suitable, this is a -potentially- serious issue, sure it may not be strictly on-topic, but it's def. closely related.
If it really is such a big deal to you that it ceases being discussed here, then at the very least it needs it's own dedicated thread that's not in the "off-topic" sub-forum, ideally you'll participate too.

Re: tracking issues and events with maemo.org infra migration#2
 

The package does build if I use debian-etch devkit. But it fails to build even on my box if using debian-squeeze devkit. SDK initially uses etch but someone changed the devkit to squeeze (it's why the package's there but it can't be updated)

Re: tracking issues and events with maemo.org infra migration#2
 

Guys, get your **** together and stop behaving like a preteen girls! ;) Last time I visited kindergarten children seemed more mature there. I enjoyed reading your quarrels now here (for pure evil entertainment), but it's not right place for them... If you feel you need that, meet in person, beat the crap out of each other, place lawsuits and go to jail (maybe you would even be placed in one room, that would be hilarious for your inmates;)).

Seriously though, just go to PMs (not to be mistaken with PMS), not publicly (wtf does your personal problems have to do with community at all?), if I were a mod, I would use my banhammer without mercy - otherwise you're like perpetuum mobile, none of you will stop (as obviously both of you want to have final word, despite saying that you want to keep this thread on topic and will shut up now... like little children;) yet on much more serious level).

And, even more seriously, I will remove my post in few hours (unless someone other does it), please don't reply to it;) I just wanted to show my (and possibly not only my) irritation;) If you don't sort it out by the end of the year, there is this nice place in South America (I forgot the exact name) where for one day (christmas eve or new years eve - I don't remember exactly either) you can fight publicly with other people if you have problem with them and it's not against the law there - maybe we as a community can fund you both plane tickets, so you can sort your quarrels out ;) (of course with live youtube stream for us to watch;))

Re: tracking issues and events with maemo.org infra migration#2
 

A deep passionate long kiss can solve the problem :)sure webcam coupled with microphone and some software that enables audio visual communication over the network can be used to talk out the matter easily as people while using textual mode of communication are ofen overly bold to state anything easily in contrast to audio or audio visual communication .

talk out the matter please not text and irritate the hell out of everyone.


kintergarden kids
grow up
ouch you are grown ups !
........

Re: tracking issues and events with maemo.org infra migration#2
 

I dunno what all the drama was about that woody was expressing, looks like HiFo/Council/Others have been hard at work for us all the whole time:
Updates on the Hildon Foundation

The whole dilemma of HiFo being based in the US & affecting people (legally) that don't want to be involved will soon (Sep. 30 at latest) no longer be an issue.
That's ofc assuming that transferring US HiFo's assets to the new HiFo entity before dissolving the former won't be a drama, the update details nothing like that.

There ofc will still be the issue of hosting proprietary bits to deal with, but, this move should at least make things a bit more navigable, we hope...