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That's not too practical because you barely can get a plan with just telephony service without any Internet. Otherwise you'll have to pay twice (one time for your phone plan, and second time for the hotspot plan).

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I can honestly say that I love sailfish so much I am willing to deal with the 2G connection. I also have a hotspot for work, so hardly notice the lack of 4G.

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I have a hotspot for my business. Had it before the Jolla and it is coming in handy with Jolla.

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Somebody knows where to buy a Jolla in the US?

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As far as I know you cannot buy it in US. I have a good friend in Switzerland that is getting it for me. About 293 Euro plus shipping
Used the coupon code FOSDEM2014 to save 40 Euro. Should have it in about 3 weeks.

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i listened that imports from europe retain the battery

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Hi. I'm a little confused by what you have written. Do you mean that imports of Jolla phone have had the battery removed? Also, have you identified a store that will allow you to import phone?

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Thats what i heard

ebay :rolleyes:

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If you use a courier company (Fed Ex, UPS etc) then you won't have issues with the battery. Having said that, depending on the country you're in, a courier can work out to be quite a bit more expensive.

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Confirmed. Only 2G for T-Mobile USA

:-(
Update:Just received my Jolla today.

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It's not just annoying for you Americans, it's going to be annoying for anyone from Europe unlucky enough to have to visit the US.

I presume they didn't bother with US frequencies as they didn't want to go through FCC approval.

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Adding frequencies doesn't need FCC approval as long as they aren't officially selling it in US.

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Would it be feasible via 3D printing to make an "other half" that had a Mobile HotSpot device incorporated into it. Then you could make calls and have reasonable data speeds. Can parts from HotSpot device be cannibalized so as to not make the "other half" too big? Also, would this fry your brain over time? Seriously, would prolonged exposure to WiFi source at close distances be hazardous to health?

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Interesting question, really :)
I'd assume that if the output power of the WLAN device is attenuated enough there would be no health hazards whatsoever. As the parts are physically next to each other the transmission power needed would be small indeed (a quick estimate; less than 1dBm would be more than enough...). That would be easy to build into the hotspot part built in the OH, but how could you make sure that the output of the Jolla device would be low enough?

However, the power output of the 3G part of the device is on the range of 20dBm...27dBm, while WLAN is rated at around 15dbm so I'd suppose there's no immediate hazards even when the WLAN is operating at full output :D

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I keep getting the T-mobile upsell screen when trying to access internet on my Jolla. How do I get past it?

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I understand an update is out that enables 4G and a Canadian has got off 2g to 4g any word on frequencies and if they work on US carriers

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I thought it had to do with the built in radio rather than the software? Isn't the radio only European frequency compatible?

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Ths was already answered 6 months ago. But anyways:

LTE: Bands 3 (1800 MHz), 7 (2600 MHz), 20 (800 MHz)

So no luck with US carriers. Better luck in Canada :)

http://reviewjolla.blogspot.fi/2014/...tries-and.html

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Anyone got a GiffGaff (Telefonica O2) 4G SIM on her Jolla phone and has 4G?

I don't seem to be able to use 4G.

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According to memo Sprint has 800 MHz but different band id. So probably will not work but you never know. Anybody try it?

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Probably a non-starter. Sprint is a CDMA carrier where you are restricted to the devices they offer. I don't think GSM telephony will work on their network.

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Is there any update on this unfortunate situation for us want to be American sailors?

Did the recent update bring any working LTE bands to the US?

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updates to software/firmware will not and cannot make the jolla work in the US. the radio itself doesnt support ANY 3g or LTE frequencies that ANY carrier supports in the US. {definitely not tmobile, at&t, sprint, verizon, or any of their various resellers}

in short, the jolla phone will *never work* in the united states. wait until they release jolla 2, or move to canada {or better yet, europe}.

EDIT: by 'never work', i mean 'never work with greater than 2g networking'. if you just want it to make calls and use wifi, youre all set. also, if the carriers decide to change infrastructure over the next 20 years, maybe it will work then.

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If you are not afraid of being considered as a person with "highly conspiratorial behaviour" because of owning NSA-not-yet-approved hardware with spyware-backdoor-free OS, then you're good to go.

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Can this thread be changed to: can the jolla Phone EVER be used in the United states?

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sure! and while we're at it, we can just replace the content of each post with "no"

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lol. I won't say this too loudly as you never know who is listening but there is a second conspiracy theory being quietly discussed amongst those members of the linux underground here in the US about the surprising absence of officially supported devices that behave as a proper linux distribution (i.e. N9 and Jolla phone)...

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Yes surprising all that.

A US tech company's backing the cold daylight killing of the ultimate Linux-desktop-in-your-pocket-project being readied by Nokia (N900 being step 4 out of 5)

Declaring the N9, long delayed consumer Linux capacitive candy-bar touch version, a dead end at the very moment when even the most skeptical iPress journalist was enthusiastically previewing the N9.

Not a conspiracy, just smart business move.


Followed by purchasing of Skype, a former "supplier of integrated secure communications" in this Linux phone project and matching with Symbian. (2)
To match it not with Symbian and Linux in integrated preinstalls but instead with windows phone (throwing out the last remaining bits of data protection philosophy)

Finally tacking over the whole devaluated phone branch of Nokia.

Ending the hopes for a Nokia camera brand (Pureview) as an alternative to the expensive Leica lower end hipster gear - why we can't have a fresh approach to consumer camera's without counting on Japan?

As a bonus, killing Symbian and the Symbeose project (1) and saving the EU taxpayer's hard earned money money by using Android instead.

Pure coincidence if you ask me. :o


(1) "The SYMBEOSE initiative will develop new core platform capabilities, providing the best possible levels of power efficiency and improving Symbian’s current, market-leading offering in this area. This will be achieved by delivering fresh optimizations which harness the rapidly developing area of multi-core processing used in conjunction with new techniques in Asymmetrical Multiprocessing" Symbian Foundation....
The SYMBEOSE project is being led by a consortium of mobile device manufacturers, hardware and service integration professional services, major consumer electronics companies, mobile network operators, application developers, universities and research institutions.

(2) 2009, BARCELONA, Spain – Nokia and Skype announced plans this morning to fully integrate Skype into select Nokia devices. Kicking off with the Nokia N97, Skype will be part of the address book in the device, enable users to easily see when their Skype contacts are online. It’ll also enable them to use 3G and WiFi to make and receive free Skype to Skype voice calls.

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Maybe it is better for its development that the device is deemed unusable in the US.
it's not too smart to kick the hounds while they are still devouring their pray. Jolla may choose it's moment better to serve the US market.

I promise that I won't complain of having to suffer 2G when traveling in the US :)

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I am wondering whether one could attach some USB 3G or 4G modem to the Jolla phone to make it work in situations where one needs it in the US. Does anyone know?

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Some folks have mentioned using a wifi hotspot with the Jolla phone.
At one point I was considering getting a tablet with LTE and tethering off that. So I would use a combo tablet and jolla phone but at this point I don't think the jolla phone, despite really liking some of its features, is far enough for me to use as a daily drive. Plus I really need a bigger screen for browsing. Guess I've been spoiled by the GN3. Hopefully the next Jolla phone will be better compatible with US providers.

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Well supposedly T-Mobile and perhaps Verizon will official support Ubuntu phone in the US later this year.

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I'll believe that when I see it, some massive co's have struggled to get those 2 US carriers on-board...
Canonical's a minnow compared to any of them, Mark will have spun some amazing crap if he's managed that.

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Mark has been in space. Do I have to say more?

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Nevermind, didnt notice that :P

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there is no LTE in north america that will work on jolla, and no 3g in the united states. {canada is maybe possible now with 3g, but probably not}

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Why not just try Sailfish on another device like a Nexus 4/5? At least then you will get 3G data. I'm dual booting a custom Android build (based on CM11) and Sailfish on my Nexus 5. So far it has been working out pretty well!

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Because so far as far as I know Sailfish does not support all major hardware of any phone but the Jolla. For example the camera does not work on your Nexus. Unless the wiki is out of date that is. I'm hoping eventually one can make calls, use GPS, bluetooth and take pictures.

How are upgrades, no OTA upgrades I suspect do you lose any settings etc. when you flash?

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That's why he said "TRY it out". You dual-boot for a reason. When you're done playing with Sailfish, you can boot back into Android. If you like Sailfish, then updates will come and improve the experience on Nexus.

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Towards end of November I'll be traveling to the US. In case there's someone being interested in a Jolla phone, I could order one and bring it with me + send it from within US. Price would be €281.45 + delivery cost + 8% Swiss tax (excl. delivery costs in US). In case you have a discount code, that can be used as well of course.

If there's interest and/or you want to know why I would even do something like that ;-) contact me via private message (or here if necessary).