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szopin 2013-11-28 01:50
Re: Jolla User Experience Thread
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by diogotrc (Post 1389862)
based on marcus' review of LE OH (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUSIjhBGknQ) is that just NFC enabled double profile? NFC enabler OH? Bit buggy as it took him a couple of tries so he might not have found out yet :D
edit: in another he mentions having more than two 'profiles' earlier, back to the drawing board

shmerl 2013-11-28 01:52
Re: Jolla User Experience Thread
 
Can anyone with the device please post the repos which are used by the stock OS (or were they posted already?).

diogotrc 2013-11-28 02:01
Re: Jolla User Experience Thread
 
New video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TaXKchYq6I

shmerl 2013-11-28 02:16
Re: Jolla User Experience Thread
 
Does the camera recorder support VPx codec?

Lumiaman 2013-11-28 02:21
Re: Jolla User Experience Thread
 
Video is OK. Very simple OS. Bare bones really. It's truly beta and clearly geared towards developers to work on apps and development. Average Joe will not buy this device.

Lumiaman 2013-11-28 02:22
Re: Jolla User Experience Thread
 
On the positive note I can see mail for exchange all, and there seems to be landscape mode for video.

thedead1440 2013-11-28 03:14
Re: Jolla User Experience Thread
 
On landscape mode, w00t mentioned on irc that they received the requisite sensors etc pretty late but they will be pushing it out via updates. They are aiming for updates roughly monthly.

What is encouraging is that they are taking steps to future proof their implementations unlike Nokia who had to create workarounds for previous workarounds hence ending up with a lot of cruft.

shmerl 2013-11-28 04:08
Re: Jolla User Experience Thread
 
I noticed it uses Bash 3.2 which is old. The reason Mer provides it, is to appease vendors who are scared of GPLv3. But Jolla isn't scared, so why isn't newer Bash packaged? I think Mer should provide an alternative set of newer packages for those vendors who aren't scared of GPLv3. I.e. those should be two sets of packages provided by some metapackage. For example:

gpl3-vendor
gpl2-vendor

dak_sriv 2013-11-28 04:42
Re: Jolla User Experience Thread
 
Does any one else feel the lack of Skype integration? =/

praveenchand 2013-11-28 04:45
Re: Jolla User Experience Thread
 
i am interested to know about event feed integration please..hows it?

youmeego 2013-11-28 04:56
Re: Jolla User Experience Thread
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by dak_sriv (Post 1389883)
Does any one else feel the lack of Skype integration? =/
i feel the same, use skype for free call everyday

sony123 2013-11-28 06:09
Re: Jolla User Experience Thread
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by youmeego (Post 1389886)
i feel the same, use skype for free call everyday
Android version works on Jolla, no?

att 2013-11-28 06:09
Re: Jolla User Experience Thread
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by youmeego (Post 1389861)
is there a skype out of the box?
There is Skype on Yandex Store (Android app) but I haven't installed or tested it.

att 2013-11-28 06:12
Re: Jolla User Experience Thread
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by soryuuha (Post 1389865)
any Exchange protocol?
You have to install Mail Exchange app from Jolla Store. Calendar sync seems to work. I haven't tested the mail sync.

tortoisedoc 2013-11-28 06:21
Re: Jolla User Experience Thread
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by att (Post 1389895)
You have to install Mail Exchange app from Jolla Store. Calendar sync seems to work. I haven't tested the mail sync.
Fail so far for me on mail sync. But perhaps my configuration is not 100% correct.

OVK 2013-11-28 06:29
Re: Jolla User Experience Thread
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by att (Post 1389895)
You have to install Mail Exchange app from Jolla Store. Calendar sync seems to work. I haven't tested the mail sync.
Is it possible to use more than one Exchange account?

Leinad 2013-11-28 06:38
Quote:
Originally Posted by kollin (Post 1389844)
this would mean up to 2TB :o

ste-phan 2013-11-28 07:12
Re: Jolla User Experience Thread
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by att (Post 1389894)
There is Skype on Yandex Store (Android app) but I haven't installed or tested it.
MS purchasing Skype and adjusting amongst others the privacy policy was drew the red line for me.

But I am very eager to hear if any Android Videocall application be it Skype or Jitsi can succesfully use Microphone and front camera.

I guess we need some patience while the frozen Fins are testing the power off , still standby alarm we used to know from Nokia :)

att 2013-11-28 07:12
Re: Jolla User Experience Thread
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lumiaman (Post 1389871)
Video is OK. Very simple OS. Bare bones really. It's truly beta and clearly geared towards developers to work on apps and development. Average Joe will not buy this device.
I have to disagree on the last part. I think Jolla is also a good smart phone for average Joe. If Joe has very specific needs like voice navigation then maybe not. Average Joes were also fine with S60 and Lumia/WP. Currently native app selection is young but it will mature.

tortoisedoc 2013-11-28 07:15
Re: Jolla User Experience Thread
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by att (Post 1389907)
I have to disagree on the last part. I think Jolla is also a good smart phone for average Joe. If Joe has very specific needs like voice navigation then maybe not. Average Joes were also fine with S60 and Lumia/WP. Currently native app selection is young but it will mature.
Agreed on simplicity of OS. This is very positive IMO.

Lumiaboy, remember this is in beta atm. Also Jolla store is just launched. There is no full launch like Lumia, so this is in line.

att 2013-11-28 07:15
Re: Jolla User Experience Thread
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OVK (Post 1389899)
Is it possible to use more than one Exchange account?
Haven't tested it but Settings:Account UI allows you to start configuring second Mail Exchange account.

bockersjv 2013-11-28 07:17
Re: Jolla User Experience Thread
 
one small issue/bug.
If you have “the first one” other half fitted and set the ambience it does not appear when you side swipe from the home sceen. If you add a second ambience they then both show when you swipe and can easily be selected .
Bluetooth transfer of vcf cards dies not appesr to work for me. Also how long should it take to set up developer mode . mine has been setting up for ages

dommau 2013-11-28 07:20
Re: Jolla User Experience Thread
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by youmeego (Post 1389886)
i feel the same, use skype for free call everyday
didn't Microsoft end support for third parties with Skype? IIRC official apps are the only way of using it.

bockersjv 2013-11-28 07:23
Re: Jolla User Experience Thread
 
One featurenot native on N9. The volume switch works as shutter release in camera app.

maluka 2013-11-28 07:29
Re: Jolla User Experience Thread
 
I've sideloaded the latest version of the Android LINE app and it works well for messaging and free voice calls. LINE video calls are not supported.

bockersjv 2013-11-28 07:34
Re: Jolla User Experience Thread
 
Headphones, the nokia hansfree ones that came with the N9s dont work,as they don't on my android tablet. i assume jolla have moved away from the nokia standard. not tried normal headphones yet.

cvp 2013-11-28 07:43
Re: Jolla User Experience Thread
 
What about XMPP ???

- is it only for text message?
- can we do calls/video-calls?
- file transfer like picture, videos, other files like apk ....

i have a XMPP Server, i can create a user for you to test all them... also PM me :)

ste-phan 2013-11-28 07:44
Re: Jolla User Experience Thread
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by att (Post 1389907)
I have to disagree on the last part. I think Jolla is also a good smart phone for average Joe. If Joe has very specific needs like voice navigation then maybe not. Average Joes were also fine with S60 and Lumia/WP. Currently native app selection is young but it will mature.
True that , it was average Joe/Mohamed/Chang that got us all set back in 2007 trading a touch screen for a complete feature list as was to be found in the Nokia's of the time.
They did not know and love their devices for the features and I doubt they do so now.
Call, check, Facebook, check, grid of icons, check..

late88 2013-11-28 07:51
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@w00t

store seems to be down for a quite a while now. cant install anything.

inffy 2013-11-28 07:51
Re: Jolla User Experience Thread
 
Does exchange sync support calendar and contacts sync or only Mail sync?

Of calendar sync works with exchange, does IT sync multiple calendars or only the main calendar on the exchange account?

Leinad 2013-11-28 07:53
Quote:
Originally Posted by ste-phan (Post 1389918)
True that , it was average Joe/Mohamed/Chang that got us all set back in 2007 trading a touch screen for a complete feature list as was to be found in the Nokia's of the time.
They did not know and love their devices for the features and I doubt they do so now.
Call, check, Facebook, check, grid of icons, check..
touchscreen was there long before... they traded it for a cool new UI and this is exactly what Jolla offers nowadays.

seiichiro0185 2013-11-28 07:55
Re: Jolla User Experience Thread
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by cvp (Post 1389917)
What about XMPP ???

- is it only for text message?
- can we do calls/video-calls?
- file transfer like picture, videos, other files like apk ....

i have a XMPP Server, i can create a user for you to test all them... also PM me :)
I would also be very interested in the XMPP.-Features present on the device.

Manatus 2013-11-28 08:54
Re: Jolla User Experience Thread
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by inffy (Post 1389920)
Does exchange sync support calendar and contacts sync or only Mail sync?

Of calendar sync works with exchange, does IT sync multiple calendars or only the main calendar on the exchange account?
Exchange sync supports mail, contacts and calendar. I haven't tested yet multiple calendars.

inffy 2013-11-28 09:03
Re: Jolla User Experience Thread
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Manatus (Post 1389931)
Exchange sync supports mail, contacts and calendar. I haven't tested yet multiple calendars.
Great

If you can test the multipöe calendar sync (under one exchange account) would br greatly appreciated!

ggabriel 2013-11-28 09:18
Re: Jolla User Experience Thread
 
It's funny how everybody presses the top right "Accept" or similar button when you can just swipe right->left as if you were going to the next page :-)

m4r0v3r 2013-11-28 09:22
Re: Jolla User Experience Thread
 
For anyone complaining about skype its not been integrated because Microsoft are making the APIs private.

jalyst 2013-11-28 09:26
Re: Jolla User Experience Thread
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by shmerl (Post 1389742)
w00t, I think it's a prime time for Jolla to launch an official community infrastructure (with forums and etc.). There was a post about it, but so far nothing came out. So it's past due!
Indeed, it's way, way, way overdue now, I've been arguing for something like this for so long now it's not even funny any more.
Filip & Carsten really crystallised it all beautifully in that "brain dump", time to move to some really cool/effective/efficient interfacing infra. ASAP.

jalyst 2013-11-28 09:31
Re: Jolla User Experience Thread
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by cvp (Post 1389755)
page 5 , last Picture.... a red/orange cover ;) thats it
Really? How sad... :rolleyes:

Quote:
Originally Posted by thedead1440 (Post 1389876)
What is encouraging is that they are taking steps to future proof their implementations...
How so?

ggabriel 2013-11-28 09:36
Re: Jolla User Experience Thread
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jalyst (Post 1389951)
really? how sad... :rolleyes:
Wait... but has anybody with an actual Jolla account confrmed that that's it and it doesn't come with some content or anything? Just gauging whether Sailfish currently supports ID'ing the other half, going somewhere, downloading stuff, etc..

strongm 2013-11-28 09:41
Re: Jolla User Experience Thread
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by m4r0v3r (Post 1389947)
For anyone complaining about skype its not been integrated because Microsoft are making the APIs private.

That is inaccurate. Microsoft are (foolishly) removing the Desktop APIs - but these APIs were only available on Windows PCs and Macs running the Skype application, enabling 3rd parties to communicate with (and extend the functionality of) the Skype app (and to be fair in the face of much opposition they've backed down on this, at least a little)

It has nothing to do with mobile implementations and does not affect them in the slightest.


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