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Kabouik 2014-11-25 12:41

Re: SolarJolla
 
Just out of curiosity, as a tohkbd2 preorderer who had a tohkbd1, can I "claim" my SolarOH (or BreadboardOH) now, or should I wait the tohkbd2 shipment? :o

P.S.
You're sending one of the above parcels to "Bularia". :<

dirkvl 2014-11-25 15:33

Re: SolarJolla
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kabouik (Post 1449277)
Just out of curiosity, as a tohkbd2 preorderer who had a tohkbd1, can I "claim" my SolarOH (or BreadboardOH) now, or should I wait the tohkbd2 shipment? :o

P.S.
You're sending one of the above parcels to "Bularia". :<

you will be contacted after campaign :)

toki 2014-11-26 21:04

Re: SolarJolla
 
just wondering when the SolarTOH will be ready? :D

dirkvl 2014-11-26 23:36

Re: SolarJolla
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by toki (Post 1449457)
just wondering when the SolarTOH will be ready? :D

what do you mean

toki 2014-11-27 00:46

Re: SolarJolla
 
pre-ordered a while ago.. :D

benny1967 2014-11-27 07:06

Re: SolarJolla
 
Received mine yesterday. Great quality, beautiful color... and it really works! (Not that there's any sun ATM, only fog and rain, but the lamp on my desk did the trick for a short test.)

Thx dirk, made me happy. :)

P@t 2014-11-27 08:43

Re: SolarJolla
 
I did received it also yesterday (thanks Dirk) and soon going to visit some sunny islands so that will be a nice opportunity to see how much it helps ;-)
I guess the only warning is to not leave it too long under direct sun to avoid too much warming?

dirkvl 2014-11-27 08:53

Re: SolarJolla
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by toki (Post 1449482)
pre-ordered a while ago.. :D

no shipment confirmation?

velox 2014-11-27 09:13

Re: SolarJolla
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dirkvl (Post 1449503)
no shipment confirmation?

I did get mine (for excluding the SolarTOH) two days after the package with the Qi ones, which I thought to be quite amusing.
Solar arrived yesterday as well, alumide looks gorgeous. No extra shipping confirmation as of yet, though.

One thing:
PayPal tends to remove company names from addresses – through sheer luck (or is it excessive online shopping?), the local mail people gave both packages to a colleague of mine downstairs at the counter, so no real problem there. Just a heads up – I'd hate to lose my TOHKBD because of this when it's ready.

benny1967 2014-11-27 09:17

Re: SolarJolla
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by toki (Post 1449482)
pre-ordered a while ago.. :D

I received a mail last week (Friday 21st) that my Solar Other Half has been shipped. (Check your spam folder maybe.) Got it yesterday evening. Depending on where you are, chances are that maybe you didn't receive the confirmation mail and delivery to your place takes one or two days longer than to Vienna. :)

There's still hope! :)

clovis86 2014-11-27 10:12

Re: SolarJolla
 
So Austria delivering is faster than France, maybe I'll have mine today !
Cant' wait :D

benny1967 2014-11-27 11:09

Re: SolarJolla
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by clovis86 (Post 1449512)
So Austria delivering is faster than France, maybe I'll have mine today !
Cant' wait :D

The fact that I'm right in Vienna might also help: The parcel didn't have to travel through all those romantic alpine valleys. ;)

toki 2014-11-27 12:45

Re: SolarJolla
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dirkvl (Post 1449503)
no shipment confirmation?

nope :(

ill send u pm :)



EDIT: oh wait. found it. heh :rolleyes: sorry bout the drama

P@t 2014-11-27 14:46

Re: SolarJolla
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by clovis86 (Post 1449512)
So Austria delivering is faster than France, maybe I'll have mine today !
Cant' wait :D

I am in France and received it yesterday (see previous page )...

MikeHG 2014-11-29 21:54

Re: SolarJolla
 
An idea for an iteration of this (and I don't think this counts as a kitchen sink :) ):

If the solartoh had a *connector* for a Jolla battery built in, once those become available you could leave it somewhere to charge a second battery, come back when you're low, and swap the batteries round.

Don't know how feasible (or expensive) that'd be. But at least you could avoid the thickness problems with having a built in battery (since the idea would be to have it charge the Jolla's battery when it's attached to the Jolla: you'd only attach a battery directly to TOH when it isn't attached to the phone, so the battery can stick out more or less as much as it likes...)

eta - obviously you'd have to think of a clever way to keep the battery attached to the connector. But I could see it being possible... a velcro strap or something.

clovis86 2014-11-30 11:34

Re: SolarJolla
 
still nothing, will have to wait until monday :(

too bad, 2 latest days were really shinny here :p

clovis86 2014-12-02 12:00

Re: SolarJolla
 
received it today !
working as I expected :D

Is vertical line in the middle of the solar panel from top to bottom normal ?

benny1967 2014-12-02 12:01

Re: SolarJolla
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by clovis86 (Post 1450290)
Is vertical line in the middle of the solar panel from top to bottom normal ?

yep. it is on all the pictures and i have it, too.

dirkvl 2014-12-02 12:08

Re: SolarJolla
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by clovis86 (Post 1450290)
received it today !
working as I expected :D

Is vertical line in the middle of the solar panel from top to bottom normal ?

yes, that is a metal strip that connects the separate cells together :)

clovis86 2014-12-02 12:20

Re: SolarJolla
 
Oh ok, nevermind :D

can't stop testing every light and window near me :p

dirkvl 2014-12-02 21:35

Re: SolarJolla
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by clovis86 (Post 1450295)
Oh ok, nevermind :D

can't stop testing every light and window near me :p

hahaha it is fun right?

works best outside, lamps have little power generally and windows also block a lot of the light.

szopin 2014-12-02 23:01

Re: SolarJolla
 
You bet. Managed to get first ding-dong from sunlight today as it was the first not-totally cloudy day in a while. But angle was very tight, can't wait for spring/summer (or holidays, just need some sun)

clovis86 2014-12-03 04:07

Re: SolarJolla
 
Yep, same here, last weekend was the shinnyest for weeks, since sollar TOH arrived, weather is really grey and cloudy, too bad :(
Quote:

Originally Posted by dirkvl (Post 1450425)
hahaha it is fun right?

works best outside, lamps have little power generally and windows also block a lot of the light.

I'm trying different types of artificial lights atm ( to find the best performance on indoor conditions, using my Jolla as modem hotspot all day long @ office )

BTW, am I the only one to notice that network signal reception is weaker with sollar TOH than with standard empty white TOH ?

Switch edge/3g and LTE are happening really more often since i switched to Sollar one :(
And LTE reception is not present as often as before I putted it in, maybe coming from my provider but I have doubt really :D

salyavin 2014-12-03 04:16

Re: SolarJolla
 
Would be interesting to see if someone could reproduce your suspicions clovis86. Has anyone else noticed that?

clovis86 if you switch back to the white TOH does it behave like you expect?

clovis86 2014-12-03 04:29

Re: SolarJolla
 
Definitely not sure if this is the case atm, just guessing.
Too early to go to work, I'll try remove the oth @ office and see if signal is better.
Here @ home, no change with or without the Sollar TOH, so I'm probably wrong about this suspicion.
( won't be the 1st time my provider is disabling LTE signal for hoursin the middle of the day :D )

Stay tune for this wonderful TOH to be definitely cleared of blame. :p

n900user259 2014-12-03 20:34

Re: SolarJolla
 
Hi Dirk,

Any chance of a white SolarJolla being availabe in the near future? In the store only the Green, Red, Pink and Purple ones are currently available.

clovis86 2014-12-03 22:05

Re: SolarJolla
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by clovis86 (Post 1450478)
Definitely not sure if this is the case atm, just guessing.
Too early to go to work, I'll try remove the oth @ office and see if signal is better.
Here @ home, no change with or without the Sollar TOH, so I'm probably wrong about this suspicion.
( won't be the 1st time my provider is disabling LTE signal for hoursin the middle of the day :D )

Stay tune for this wonderful TOH to be definitely cleared of blame. :p

definitely wrong, sorry about that :)

dirkvl 2014-12-04 08:26

Re: SolarJolla
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by n900user259 (Post 1450558)
Any chance of a white SolarJolla being availabe in the near future? In the store only the Green, Red, Pink and Purple ones are currently available.

also waiting here, hope they are here in time for reaching xmas trees!

https://dl.dropbox.com/s/tb0o52jn91h...olar_order.JPG

Kabouik 2014-12-06 20:19

Re: SolarJolla
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by clovis86 (Post 1450475)
BTW, am I the only one to notice that network signal reception is weaker with sollar TOH than with standard empty white TOH ?

Switch edge/3g and LTE are happening really more often since i switched to Sollar one :(
And LTE reception is not present as often as before I putted it in, maybe coming from my provider but I have doubt really :D

Well I'd be interested in investigations on that matter too. I've used diptoh since I got it, and finally had to remove it because reception was terrible (even no network at all quite often). I am back with toholed and no network issues anymore, same with The First One OH. There's really something with diptoh (at least mine, I'm not saying it happens with all units) and I'm concerned if the same issue happens with solartoh, 'cause that means that maybe it will happen with tohkbd too.

I'm not exagerating: my phone was almost impossible to use with these network issues because I totally lost the connection quite often (several times a day, and when the network was there, it was only for a few minutes). Now that I noticed it was related to diptoh, the phone works quite well. Not sure if this was a hardware or software issue, because rebooting the phone sometimes solved the issue (very temporarily). I've not noticed any network loss since days now, while I got more and more issues since September with diptoh. Further testing would be required, but there really seems to be something here considering how long I used diptoh.

clovis86 2014-12-06 23:01

Re: SolarJolla
 
Sorry, but I definitely got the same issue here..
Came back to my parents, usually got edge connection and now on, no network or really weak, just removing the sollar toh gimme edge network instantly !
Same @office, usually got LTE, now got really weak hsdpa signal and sometines edge ... :(

gaiosgf 2014-12-07 01:06

Re: SolarJolla
 
No problem here.Its perfect.Thans dirkvl.

clovis86 2014-12-07 09:41

Re: SolarJolla
 
Just noticed the same behaviour regarding wireless signal :(

mind_the_gap 2014-12-09 13:32

Re: SolarJolla
 
Since there are already custom made solar panels in use, I was wondering if your manufacturer could add random patterns to it as described here to get 22% more efficiency:

Quote:

and anyway, the more important takeaway here is that we should start nanopatterning our solar panels immediately. It just so happens that taking a mold of a Blu-ray disc is a cheap and easy way to get your hands on a good quasi-random nanopattern — but in the future, the patterning could be produced directly, without the Blu-ray intermediate.
This would be really great. :-)

Schturman 2014-12-14 14:27

Re: SolarJolla
 
Received my today! Perfect fit, thank you very much..
But honestly, I was thinking that plastic should be clean-slick. Current plastic will catch all dust from anywhere, this material like a cloth.. :/

benny1967 2014-12-14 14:47

Re: SolarJolla
 
Mhm... One thing I noticed only when I tried to take it off again: I can't. Or hardly can't. It took me 20min and two nail files to get the solar OH off my Jolla again. And I now have a crack in the phone.

Dirk, I suspect you put it on and off various times during development. Is there anything I'm missing?

toki 2014-12-16 02:00

Re: SolarJolla
 
woot got mine today! finally :D
happy man

and lol yeh, agreed with @schturman... its picking up dust better than my vacuum cleaner hahah

szopin 2014-12-17 18:40

Re: SolarJolla
 
Going to hopefully more sunny location soon, will have some data to share. Any idea what are the effects of jolla with solarOH going through xray machine? Is it going to explode? Supercharge in 1 second? Get some super powers?

MikeHG 2014-12-18 16:55

Re: SolarJolla
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by benny1967 (Post 1452171)
Mhm... One thing I noticed only when I tried to take it off again: I can't. Or hardly can't. It took me 20min and two nail files to get the solar OH off my Jolla again. And I now have a crack in the phone.

Dirk, I suspect you put it on and off various times during development. Is there anything I'm missing?

I find it works best if you start at the sides (in contrast to the Jolla OHs, where you start at the bottom).

MikeHG 2014-12-20 13:08

Re: SolarJolla
 
Can I ask a pair of dumb questions?

1) Presumably it doesn't do it any harm if I plug it in to a charger *and* leave it in the sun?

2) Is it significantly better for the life of the solar panel / electronics to not leave it in light that isn't strong enough to charge from? I.e. does it generate current all the time, and 'wear itself out', or will it only generate a current if there's enough to charge with, or is wearing it out not a significant worry?

<-- didn't study much electronics / physics ;)

Thank you.

dirkvl 2014-12-20 13:30

Re: SolarJolla
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeHG (Post 1453099)
1) Presumably it doesn't do it any harm if I plug it in to a charger *and* leave it in the sun?

Yes, that should not be an issue

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeHG (Post 1453099)
2) Is it significantly better for the life of the solar panel / electronics to not leave it in light that isn't strong enough to charge from?

Yes, if the voltage is just dancing around the trigger voltage, the phone does not really like it sometimes.


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