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mosen 2019-07-15 22:42

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HtheB (Post 1558391)
Registered!

But I can't have beer :(
Got some cola as well? :p

Wuuut, you are going all the way?
Super Cool!
Let me know when you arrive at the airport, there is a good chance i can do one or two shuttle drives. I always wanted to stay at the arrival and hold a BIG HtheB sign like in the movies :D

HtheB 2019-07-15 22:45

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mosen (Post 1558392)
Wuuut, you are going all the way?
Super Cool!
Let me know when you arrive at the airport, there is a good chance i can do one or two shuttle drives. I always wanted to stay at the arrival and hold a BIG HtheB sign like in the movies :D

I'm just gonna drive, it's 2hours of driving from NL to DE :p
You can still hold a sign up for me if you want at your restaurant :D

mosen 2019-07-15 23:03

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HtheB (Post 1558393)
I'm just gonna drive, it's 2hours of driving from NL to DE :p
You can still hold a sign up for me if you want at your restaurant :D

Maaan, i had you located in turkey (in my mind).
Really happy we will meet.

Astaoth 2019-07-16 13:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by British (Post 1558384)
Maybe you can do France for some upcoming hands-on ? :rolleyes: :D
Possible even the "west coast"... we don't have Dre, Snoop or the likes, but there's at least Kabouik and I :cool:

+1 in France on west coast :D

British 2019-07-16 13:59

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Astaoth (Post 1558397)
+1 in France on west coast :D

Cunning plan un-thwarted !

Chen, do hear the voice of the many <cue-in Shodan meme> from the west coast of France !
We are Legion (WIP) ! :cool:

Kabouik 2019-07-17 09:44

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
A meeting in Saint Malo intra-muros would look good. :cool: Perhaps not as convenient as Paris to attract people, but hey. And that way the froggies could show the F(x)tec brits what cider should be!

(But well, don't push the release date back for an extra meeting, I can't attend anyway, and my decision to purchase is already set in stone. :D)

DDark 2019-07-18 05:14

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
I think it wasn't reposted here yet

Camera samples and comparison with Nokia 8.1(same sensor)

https://www.fxtec.com/forums/topic/f...hmd-nokia-8-1/

Direct Link to images (thanks to netman)
http://www.matland.be/pro1shots/

HtheB 2019-07-20 14:43

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Almost time for the event in Germany!
3 days left!

mosen 2019-07-21 17:31

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HtheB (Post 1558476)
Almost time for the event in Germany!
3 days left!

Stream is up :D
https://www.ustream.tv/channel/8wtQe37JPYH

Needs some camera repositioning obviously.
I thought my puny 2Mbit upload would be the bottle neck but it turned out i can not quench much more than 5 frames at 720p out of the rpi3 without it overheating.
Hope it will still do since most important is the audio being uninterrupted? Opinions?

EDIT, stream is off again since it got pitch black.
Testing other settings and maybe youtube tomorrow.

olf 2019-07-21 21:32

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Dear @chenliangchen and F(x)tec team,

(as I am not sure, if this reached you in a timely manner, reposting here)
if you would like to present your plans and the current status of the Pro1 project in the Cologne region on Saturday, 2019-08-10, starting at 3:15 p.m., I and @Thaodan would be glad to host you in the "Sailfish OS (community event)" track [1] [2] at FrOSCon 2019 [3].
As the FrOSCon organisers have granted us room C120 with a capacity of 60 people and we expect far less visitors, there also would be enough space for a "F(x)tec Pro1 presentation point" (a couple of tables arranged so they resemble an improvised, small booth). This would have to be set up before the track starts (at 2 p.m.).

The FrOSCon is a yearly Free and Open Source Software conference hosted at the polytechnical university in St. Augustin since 2006 with a few thousand attendees over the course of two days and organised by students.
The "Sailfish OS" track is open to all visitors, but due to the many, interesting tracks in parallel [4] (including ours in room C120 [5]), we expect a mainly SailfishOS oriented audience.

The polytechnics in St. Augustin is in close proximity to the Cologne / Bonn airport ("CGN"): approximately 15 minutes by car and about half an hour by public transport (commuter train from the airport station to Siegburg station, then per tram to station "St. Augustin *Markt*", but including a 7 minute walk from there to the polytechnics).

Please let me know if you are interested to pursue this at all until the end of next week, to allow for the time needed to prepare an announcement text plus to submit a talk and process it (a proper title and a short description is sufficient for that) technically (FrOSCon has extensive infrastructure for this: "frab").
I plan the attend the first time slot at the Duesseldorf meeting next week (in two days, actually), so we may discuss this proposal there.

[1]: https://www.froscon.de/en/program/project-rooms/#c2790
[2]: https://together.jolla.com/question/...-near-cologne/
[3]: https://www.froscon.de/en/
[4]: https://programm.froscon.de/2019/schedule/1.html
[5]: https://programm.froscon.de/2019/schedule/1.html#1

--
Cheers,
Olf

chenliangchen 2019-07-22 16:35

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
@olf Thank you for your great information! I am committed myself to attend this event you mentioned. It's always better to create more opportunities for users to try the device. We could talk in more details when we meet tomorrow! Thank you again for the heads up and have a safe journey tomorrow! :)

HtheB 2019-07-23 14:00

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Greetings from Germany guys!
The phone is wonderful.....!

British 2019-07-23 14:15

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HtheB (Post 1558510)
The phone is wonderful.....!

Surely you mean "the hardware is wonderful" :D
...or is there actually some SFOS to sample ? :eek:

robthebold 2019-07-23 14:19

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by British (Post 1558511)
Surely you mean "the hardware is wonderful" :D
...or is there actually some SFOS to sample ? :eek:

Either way, excited fanbois like me want to know . . .

SaiKo 2019-07-23 14:24

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mosen (Post 1558487)
Stream is up :D
https://www.ustream.tv/channel/8wtQe37JPYH

Needs some camera repositioning obviously.
I thought my puny 2Mbit upload would be the bottle neck but it turned out i can not quench much more than 5 frames at 720p out of the rpi3 without it overheating.
Hope it will still do since most important is the audio being uninterrupted? Opinions?

EDIT, stream is off again since it got pitch black.
Testing other settings and maybe youtube tomorrow.

camera seems pointed at a corner with not much to see, can we get some rerepositioning?

HtheB 2019-07-23 14:38

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SaiKo (Post 1558515)
camera seems pointed at a corner with not much to see, can we get some rerepositioning?

Fixing
ten chars

Edit: Apparently it's on a fixed position guys, sorry

catbus 2019-07-23 14:54

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
@HtheB can You show yourself to the camera?

catbus 2019-07-23 15:10

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Stream has stopped now... after i mentioned "cold water" on fridge ;)

[edit]
sad, did not see HtheB...
[/edit]

HtheB 2019-07-23 15:13

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by catbus (Post 1558519)
Stream has stopped now... after i mentioned "cold water" on fridge ;)

[edit]
sad, did not see HtheB...
[/edit]

I'll post a pix

Wasmachinemann-NL 2019-07-23 16:37

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HtheB (Post 1558510)
Greetings from Germany guys!
The phone is wonderful.....!

I agree! Can't wait for the release in September.

spinica 2019-07-23 16:45

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Seems that f(x)tec is confident of a sept release?

HtheB 2019-07-23 18:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HtheB (Post 1558521)
I'll post a pix

as promised

Wasmachinemann-NL 2019-07-23 19:04

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Wanted to thank the Fxtec team for the great event! Can't wait until September for the release.

Now if only Rockbox for Android development would get restarted..

catbus 2019-07-23 19:05

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HtheB (Post 1558528)
as promised

Haaa! Yes... You pointed camera once, so i did saw You - Thanks mään...

peterleinchen 2019-07-23 22:09

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
It is a small step for free SW (OS) but a giant leap for HW (keyboard).
--edit: had to do this, after that lunar weekend :p (

Guys this thing is great!
It feels like a decent successor of the N950 in hands. :D
(if only we had Meamo/MeeGo/Meltemi/NameIt on it).

HW wise nothing to argue. Feels good in hands, looks awesome and stylish.
Big rounded edge screen. Size is 'big', as big as all 6'' glass bars nowadays. Same size as a Xperia XA2 Plus (or Samsung A70), of course a bit thicker due to the HW keyboard which does not feel bad or disturbs.
The keyboard is also awesome, fels balanced when using and key presses are well felt.

I could continue and continue...
Thanks Chen and the F(x)Tec team.

And special thanks to mosen for hosting and beer and sushi!

mosen 2019-07-23 23:03

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Indeed, i help with going on and on:

The rounded caps are super comfy and the pressure point is on spot. I had the direct contrast when failing to put my long wifi pw into one of the demo devices via virtual keyboard since it did not come to mind to flap out the qwertz. It just feels like a normal, a bit thicker phone of that size. Then Erik smirked at me and my brain froze a bit realizing i am typing on virtual kbd on a Pro1 first time i touch it. :o :eek:
Entering via Qwerty was so nice, no hitting the screen on top, much space to hold on and not let it slip.
The angle is a great help to not cramp your fingers. Much better than on N900 where i always lift/angle my hands up to get the screen in good position to my glasses. I guess that was one advantge of N950/E7 already.

And the fri**in slide out is satisfying af. (sorry for the language i am really hyped that my expectations got over-delivered). The videos are one thing, you have to feel it.
It snaps in place as if an overpaid sound engineer spent a month on that confirming and worthy mixture of a "Whoomp" & "KLACK".
If you ever wanted to envy an iphone user, simply klack him away.

Ohhh and the screen. It was the brightest day a german can imagine to test sunlight readability and the pro1 did shine. (No i am not going to over exaggerate by adding "like the sun :D")
Go to a phone shop and look at the Note series. That is the pro1s screen as Adrian explained. (forgot which Note).

Ahh and quite loud stereo speakers.
Uhh 3,5mm jack.
Ohhhh the camera is not higher than the main body but ~0,5mm embedded.

But most important, and the reason why i invited them in the first place. I could feel their enthusiasm to work and how serious they are about the device Quality.
Have seen a lot of startups from within and seldom had the need to describe them as well organized and completely sane behaving.
I now wish them to find a good compromise between further refinement and "go to market". (Thanks @Olf for the lengthy discussion about that topic!)
I lean towards it being perfect for me and want it NOW :)

Thanks again to all attendees for the fruitful exchanges. I learned a lot today.

Kabouik 2019-07-24 01:09

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Ha, that description of the slide out mechanism is perfect, should go on the official website as a selected user review. :D This is exactly what I felt when I saw Chenliangchen's short video on Twitter showing how the Pro1 can be unlocked. I looped the video like 20 times and forgot it was about unlocking the phone, I just wanted to hear again the work of the overpaid sound engineer. :D

chenliangchen 2019-07-24 14:06

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Thank you everyone who attended the event yesterday, it was a hot weather and some travelled within quite a long distance, we are really grateful that you made this journey and I hope the hands-on is worth all the time spent on the road. :)

I also want to personally thank Mosen for his warm hospitality. He is so thoughtful in every details, setting up the camera, projector, A/C, printed out name badge, and provided lovely drinks and great great sushi. (My colleague who attended the last session in Tokyo said the sushi is better than he had in Japan) Thank you Thank you so much!!

I also spent some time with olf, who answered a lot of questions regarding mainlining and we will likely meet again early August in Frosdon.

And community has found a few software issues which I am not aware of. And some very important suggestions. I just assigned to relevant team today. :)

We will do our best to get it produced with quality and looking for deliver the product in person on September!!

deutch1976 2019-07-24 14:10

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by chenliangchen (Post 1558556)
Thank you everyone who attended the event yesterday, it was a hot weather and some travelled within quite a long distance, we are really grateful that you made this journey and I hope the hands-on is worth all the time spent on the road. :)

I also want to personally thank Mosen for his warm hospitality. He is so thoughtful in every details, setting up the camera, projector, A/C, printed out name badge, and provided lovely drinks and great great sushi. (My colleague who attended the last session in Tokyo said the sushi is better than he had in Japan) Thank you Thank you so much!!

I also spent some time with olf, who answered a lot of questions regarding mainlining and we will likely meet again early August in Frosdon.

And community has found a few software issues which I am not aware of. And some very important suggestions. I just assigned to relevant team today. :)

We will do our best to get it produced with quality and looking for deliver the product in person on September!!

Even with all the evidences and hands on the device, i believe there will be someone saying that it is a scam :p

Kabouik 2019-07-24 14:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by chenliangchen (Post 1558556)
And community has found a few software issues which I am not aware of. And some very important suggestions. I just assigned to relevant team today. :)

I'm very curious about what are the suggestions, if you can disclose this information. I would understand if you would prefer not to, to avoid increasing expectations from future users about suggestions that may or may not make it to the final software.

mosen 2019-07-24 14:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by deutch1976 (Post 1558557)
Even with all the evidences and hands on the device, i believe there will be someone saying that it is a scam :p

True...
Hopefully those someones did not place a preorder :)

Edit:
Just realized i can serve with a small inside scoop of Liangchen trying to flash the Pro1 to install the SFOS image he was provided the day before.
Sadly it did not work afaiu due to different rescue partition sizes on the devices he had and the porters device.

https://mosushi.de/misc/pro1_scoop1.jpg

https://mosushi.de/misc/pro1_scoop2.jpg

Fellfrosch 2019-07-24 14:55

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SCAM :p
And of course I have preordered, Otherwise I would have been an idiot. :D

kinggo 2019-07-24 15:34

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
me wants a t-shirt :D

gtmaster303 2019-07-24 16:09

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by chenliangchen (Post 1558556)
Thank you everyone who attended the event yesterday, it was a hot weather and some travelled within quite a long distance, we are really grateful that you made this journey and I hope the hands-on is worth all the time spent on the road. :)

I also want to personally thank Mosen for his warm hospitality. He is so thoughtful in every details, setting up the camera, projector, A/C, printed out name badge, and provided lovely drinks and great great sushi. (My colleague who attended the last session in Tokyo said the sushi is better than he had in Japan) Thank you Thank you so much!!

I also spent some time with olf, who answered a lot of questions regarding mainlining and we will likely meet again early August in Frosdon.

And community has found a few software issues which I am not aware of. And some very important suggestions. I just assigned to relevant team today. :)

We will do our best to get it produced with quality and looking for deliver the product in person on September!!

Curious about those software issues if you are free to share too.
Deliver products in person? You going door to door? Lol

gtmaster303 2019-07-24 16:11

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kinggo (Post 1558561)
me wants a t-shirt :D

Agreed I want one too. I'd even pay for it to show support. Wear it with pride

xman 2019-07-24 16:45

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
haha, chenliangchen should know by now not to tease this group ... cuz they will hound you till the end of time :D

x

chenliangchen 2019-07-24 18:10

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by xman (Post 1558566)
haha, chenliangchen should know by now not to tease this group ... cuz they will hound you till the end of time :D

x

Haha actually it's not a tease, for everyone came yesterday they all know what it means. :-P

Kabouik 2019-07-24 18:35

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Finally a post from Liangchen that I can hate vigorously instead of thanking. Leak the damn info, you nasty evil person. From now on, no one loves you.

catbus 2019-07-24 19:13

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gtmaster303 (Post 1558563)
Curious about those software issues if you are free to share too.
Deliver products in person? You going door to door? Lol

Well... My english is not fluent but i understand that Fxtec is building sales channels. Not that Chen will personally deliver Pro1 to customers.

Maybe for me, of course, but not for others ;)

mosen 2019-07-24 19:41

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by catbus (Post 1558573)
Well... My english is not fluent but i understand that Fxtec is building sales channels. Not that Chen will personally deliver Pro1 to customers.

Well to clarify and not, he actually ment it literally.
Goosh i love riddles but now that Liangchen let the cat(bus) slip, he would have to solve it himself :p
Me no want no trouble.


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