maemo.org - Talk - The EPIC N9 anticipation thread

N9 is shorter. :D To be brutally correct we should be calling it RM-680 for now because N9, N950, N1000 don't tell what the device is. It's just a marketing name for device/proto that gets in to mass production.

Imo Rich Green is just saying that the device Nokia will ship this year is more of a follower to N900 now with the harmattan stuff and so calling it "N950".

Though i'm sure we all know what each of us means when we talk about N9, N950 or RM-680.

AndyNokia232

2011-05-20 20:16

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?

I used to think Angry Birds was taking over my life before this thread started. I've done nothing at work all week! The N9 will get me fired!!!

AndyNokia232

2011-05-20 20:17

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?

Could be worth it though ;)

gryedouge

2011-05-20 20:19

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?

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Originally Posted by AndyNokia232 (Post 1011430)

Could be worth it though ;)

Spoken like a true optimist! :D

larux

2011-05-20 20:21

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndyNokia232 (Post 1011429)

I used to think Angry Birds was taking over my life before this thread started. I've done nothing at work all week! The N9 will get me fired!!!

Haha! I'ts nice to see that I am not alone .. I have to check twitter, this forum etc. repeatedly in order to see any new info/leaks/etc.

I HAVE WAITED DECENT LINUX PHONE TOO MANY YEARS. N900 is eternal beta device - As pro consumer geek (not developer) I have been waiting, waiting, waiting that step 5/5

I pray that step 5 is coming soon and qwerty kb is included into device.

misterc

2011-05-20 20:31

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Verythrax (Post 1011424)

He doesn't sound very confident. It's more like he's saying "like a N900 v2, y'know?"

if it's going to be a "geek" device only, it'll be N950
if it's going to be a consumer device, it'll be N9

bets are open ¦-)

mscion

2011-05-20 20:34

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Well, I have good news and bad news.

First the bad news.

I have just heard, from a trusted source I cannot disclose, that only one N9 was ever made. Sorry. The same one was used in all the leaked photos and teasers. Notice you never saw two at the same time as evidence.

Now the good news!

Who ever gets the 1000th post in this thread will win it! However you must include your name and credit card number in that post for verification.

Honest!

misterc

2011-05-20 20:41

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?

Quote:

Originally Posted by mscion (Post 1011440)

and the CC# shall go directly to Steve Jobs, for good measure, to compensate him for the fact that the UI (on the teaser) looks remotely like the iOS interface

aikon800

2011-05-20 20:42

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?

I think that the N9 should have the keyboard because without it the Linux will not just match with it, and it won't be categorized as a pocket computer anymore.

Faustino

2011-05-20 20:42

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?

92,000 units? Yeah right.. just some more clever marketing going on there.. creates a panic.. "oh no, i must go out and part with 500+ before someone else gets there first..

They sell 92,000 units in the first week or two... then they make more.....

The majority of people buying the iPhone probably only ever use it for music, a few apps and phone calls/texts.... if Nokia can tap into that casual market with a sought after device they'll be onto a winner.

All it needs is a few media stories of some eejits getting worked up into a big enough frenzy to que up for it when it's released........... how many views has this thread had now? :)

rentze

2011-05-20 21:17

Re: N9 hits FCC???

Bump! More than 24 hours without a post! Don't let the teaser thread win!

tissot

2011-05-20 21:20

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?

Eldar made that 92 000 comment.
If Eldar is part of Nokia's marketing they certainly are playing a game way over my head. ;)

dtergens

2011-05-20 21:21

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?

Imo the question is not "what we want" maemo and linux users at least for the first step. As already said linux and xterminal phone is a niche wiches not making lot of money and its marketting will not give mass people enthusiastic.
The big challenge for the first meego public device launch is to make a maximum of people thinking "WOAW I want one now !!!"

(you know, like a famous phone very closed source ^^) sorry for bad english

Then like Koajwujwer123 said if that's true, the good deal could be the one he describe (of course for a first step !) any teaser yet ? lol :

Quote:

Can't get into specifics but it will be better than the hardware on the dev phone. Everything is nice and smooth.

Quote:

It is a very slim device. That is another aspect that people look at and this should appeal to them.

sajman

2011-05-20 21:34

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?

to be honest, i just hope it can match the latest phones on the market.

samsuny galaxy s 2 for example.

1.2ghz dual core, 1 gb ram, 12mp cam, 4 inch amoled screen, 1080 video record and output via hdmi.

If nokia put out a n series phone with specs like that, and it was a hybrid between the n8 and n900 they would sell them by the bucket load. kb or kb-less. candybar for the people who are apple lovers but dont want to move to the dark side and kb for those who love the n series range for what it is. huge wins for nokia.

i really hope this will be a good nokia product. otherwise its the ga.axy s2, htc sensation or atrix for me. And i wont look back!!

i do love my n900 though, how unique and kingy!!!

mikecomputing

2011-05-20 21:42

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frappacino (Post 1010583)

The only way to hold a corporation to account in the marketplace is not to buy their products.

Continual support of Nokia if you are not happy with its products is just silly.

If you want to support FOSS and Meego then buy Meego phones from other companies - i.e. LG releasing some phones I believe.

Of course if the hardware is good enough for you then just get this phone, but dont expect people to "forget" how we were treated.

And Yes I believe all Nokia bashing is fully justified - their past behavior is indefensible, and as a consumer the only power you have to reprimand them is NOT to buy their products.

First of:

I am VERY happy with my N900 :-D

I am also a "realist" some people here is not! They complain about Nokia and saying Android is SOOO goood. And thats just garbage cause I have seen several people on forums and also in real world that is not positive about how HTC/Samsung/SE is not upgrading to latest Android and so on.

Conclusion: There is NO company that has longterm support for devices. We have to be glad there is a year upgrade of OS. If you want longterm support for a device you have to PAY for the upgrades. Thats how bussines work.

We (including myself) can bashing as much as we want about "open source" but NO company will ever release a fully working open source mobile EVER. Not even Linux on desktop is working without closed components. The closed components like drivers for GFX, Wifi and then software/protocols/codecs like : DRM, Mp3, AAC, Hxxx, skype, adobeflash, all of them may suck hell :-( but still they are needed without them it just halfbacked joke.

And about LG. Give me a break!? There is no company atm that is close to what Nokia has today on the "Meego front"!

It may be true that nXX is not fully Meego compliant. But still it is WAY more close to Meego than what LG will give (what have they contributed to the community so far?) us at the Meego conference. I wouldnt mind if i was wrong but
again I am a realist dont expect that much from LG. As far as I know they have only said they will release some kind of "prototype" (probadly same prototyp as we saw one years ago).

But some people here still thinks they will release a device :eek: cmon?

People here have too read the sources instead of reading some rumors from stupid mobilesites who hasn't a clue what they are talking about.

crisscross

2011-05-20 21:48

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?

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Originally Posted by sajman;1011472et.

samsuny galaxy s 2 for example.

1.2ghz dual core, 1 gb ram, 12mp cam, 4 inch amoled screen, 1080 video record and output via hdmi.
!

In what country do you live where you get a 12 mp camera? Come on its samsung, the camera will be a joke...

blipnl

2011-05-20 21:59

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?

.. I think this thread needs to be renamed..

jakiman

2011-05-20 22:02

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?

SGS2 has 8MP camera...

Anyways, all I want is a powerful internet/multimedia/productivity device.
N900 used to tick all the boxes. Now it's weak in multimedia. (no HD)
So I was hoping N9 will be a faster, bigger, slimmer version of N900.
But I guess what we will get is something not targetted towared "us".

tissot

2011-05-20 22:06

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?

Quote:

Originally Posted by crisscross (Post 1011478)

In what country do you live where you get a 12 mp camera? Come on its samsung, the camera will be a joke...

... at least Samsung isn't putting edof cameras to it's phones like Nokia does nowadays.
C'mon this is silly just hating brands. I don't think there's absolutely nothing wrong at all expecting Nokia to deliver hw wise as good or better phone than others. I'am, while other than camera i'm not too optimistic about it.

GS wasn't for me because google account focked the whole phone for me and was generally just buggy(especially browser), though custom ROM made the phone ok. So now i'm using iphone 4+N900 combo.
As far as OS goes harmattan the little we have seen is really looking just what i want it to be, but even with harmattan inside i wont pay for inferior hw. It's then anybodies business what you value or need from the hw.

For example if there would have been MeeGo tablet available from Nokia this year i would have certainly picked it up, but that is long gone and now i'm just waiting for my Asus transformer+dock to arrive. :)

kanishou

2011-05-20 22:08

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?

Quote:

Originally Posted by misterc (Post 1011415)

what was the thread all about, again?
MeeGo or Maemo / Harmattan, right?
not two or three or a truckload full of different devices, was it?

well, let's have a look, what OS on the teaser device, right?

let's have a look at it from both side, shall we?
one, it is a developer device only, won't see the crowds of phoneshops anywhere in world, right?
what does it matter what OS it is, it'll get overwritten the minute it gets into a developer's finger, won't it?

I think you misunderstand the meaning of "developer device". This time it doesn't mean "random device that is of little use to the mass market but some developers may enjoy toying with" but "early device for developers to create applications for a new OS before it gets released to the mass market".

Even after the decision to go with WP7 for the mass market, the concept is still the same.

These are exciting times, and many things will become much clearer soon.

mikecomputing

2011-05-20 22:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by choufleur47 (Post 1010684)

http://blogs.forbes.com/elizabethwoy...ne-8-handsets/

dual core in Nokia's wp7...we should have some dual core love too!!!

Werll go buy an WP8 then! Personally I dont give a **** if nX has only one Core I am sure Maemo will work better than WP8 with dualcore.

=DualCore on WP yet another reason Nokia will sell more WP crap phones cause people is not clever enought to realise DualCore is just overhyped crap on handsets.

Atleast until the OS is optimized for it wiosh will take several years!

Koajwujwer123

2011-05-20 22:24

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Just stepped in to see whether you still doubting.

lol.. just wait a bit. It is coming soon.. you wanted a hint right. That silver photo you posted earlier is correct. Front anyways.

misterc - stop being so doubtful

qwazix

2011-05-20 22:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by crisscross (Post 1011478)

In what country do you live where you get a 12 mp camera? Come on its samsung, the camera will be a joke...

if it's the same with i8910 I can tell you it's no joke
________
Depakote Help

chrisp7

2011-05-20 22:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by NvyUs (Post 1011296)

Any proof I'm telling a lie? Any??
Look Unless someone posts a Picture to convince you, you will never believe.
I dont have access to do such a thing so believe what you wish

Cut it out mate you keep on posting as if you know - you dont! Fine that you have heard some rumours but no need to ram it down everyone's throats.

Koajwujwer123

2011-05-20 22:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by chrisp7 (Post 1011514)

Cut it out mate you keep on posting as if you know - you dont! Fine that you have heard some rumours but no need to ram it down everyone's throats.

That silver touch device pic in this thread ? That is correct

Creamy Goodness

2011-05-20 22:41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Koajwujwer123 (Post 1011506)

Don't worry about convincing the closed-minded and feel free to ignore those making unreasonable demands for information. Just because those guys are the loudest, they don't deserve your time. The rest of us appreciate whatever hints you want to drop. I'm sure there's enough people around this forum that might not want to leak info but would surely say something if someone else started making stuff up...

Koajwujwer123

2011-05-20 22:43

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Creamy Goodness (Post 1011520)

So now you atleast have design idea :) Maybe more soon.. btw, hardware not competing with SGS2 but it won't be required.

rentze

2011-05-20 22:45

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?

1000th message...

edit: i bet there'll be at least 2k more before the official announcement...

NvyUs

2011-05-20 22:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by chrisp7 (Post 1011514)

Cut it out mate you keep on posting as if you know - you dont! Fine that you have heard some rumours but no need to ram it down everyone's throats.

I've Not heard Rumours I've been told facts If only you knew main source you would be like damn how does he know that person.

What exactly have I claimed, All I've claimed is:

1. there will be a month or so between when developers will get a dev device and when the Consumer device is launched.
2. Consumer device as No KB,
3. Dev device as Kb.
4.They reworked UI b/c US partners hated it

I've Never claimed to know Specs.
I even posted you guys a link to the List of Packages Harmattan is built up of which consisted of more info than the other 999 posts in this thread combined, which is plenty more than anyone else as offered.
Believe or Don't believe this is last post I'm making in this thread.

AndyNokia232

2011-05-20 22:51

Re: N9 hits FCC???

Shouldn't someone in charge around here merge these two threads???

AndyNokia232

2011-05-20 22:53

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I will fly to Finland and stand outside Nokia HQ with a placard that says "HUH?!" if it comes with out a keyboard. Actually, I'm booking my flight now...

gryedouge

2011-05-20 22:54

Re: N9 hits FCC???

Yes, i was thinking the same thing...some moderator should merge the two threads.

Koajwujwer123

2011-05-20 22:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AndyNokia232 (Post 1011530)

I will fly to Finland and stand outside Nokia HQ with a placard that says "HUH?!" if it comes with out a keyboard. Actually, I'm booking my flight now...

You better book your flight now then

gryedouge

2011-05-20 22:56

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndyNokia232 (Post 1011530)

I will fly to Finland and stand outside Nokia HQ with a placard that says "HUH?!" if it comes with out a keyboard. Actually, I'm booking my flight now...

;) dont lie! you just want to be first in line!

rentze

2011-05-20 23:01

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The more you're talking about the KBDless device, the more I realize I won't go for it... Unless it really, really, really is something special. However, I have to admit that a KBDless thingy would be much more appealing to "the masses"... so can't really blame them...

Koajwujwer123

2011-05-20 23:02

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?

Quote:

Originally Posted by rentze (Post 1011535)

Define special and i might help

AndyNokia232

2011-05-20 23:05

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Koajwujwer123 (Post 1011532)

You better book your flight now then

Y'know, if you're right (and I have no way of knowing if you are or not at this point) the tech media are going to bust Nokia's balls like never before. A teaser is leaked showing a keyboard, that matches all the photos we've seen in the past year, FCC reports show schematics for a keyboard, and then (according to you, Elop's masseur) it will be touchscreen only.

Engadget, Pocketnow, Slashgear, all of them will write stuff that will damage Nokia's reputation, simply because it won't make any sense.

Koajwujwer123

2011-05-20 23:09

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndyNokia232 (Post 1011538)

Have you seen it ? Have you used the OS ? Once you do , it will all make sense. "Our Next Sense" remember that.

I dont see how media will find something to bash in this. Yeah they could say this is not Android lol but man.. after this. MeeGo ftw !

marxian

2011-05-20 23:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1011368)

I want post 1000 in this thread.

(Please don't thank me for this usfull comment! :D)

How many days are there left for the Meego device announcement? ;)

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